Majed

How solipsism and awakening contradict veganism.

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If you're God and you're not a human, and you're the only one in existence then there aren't other sentient beings including animals. Therefore veganism gets debunked. I've struggled with veganism for a long time, i was a vegan, then i stopped then i realized solipsism and awakening which put an end to veganism in my mind. 

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Sentience = conciousness 

Conciousness = everything. 

Therefor, everything is sentient. 

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To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom. It is to hold it in an open palm of your hand without clenching over it. 

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You could apply this logic to anything almost? Why pay the cashier if they don't even exist, why call your grandma, why approach that girl she's not real...etc. But maybe it's nice to use the logic where it suits the most....


There is intelligence everywhere

– Some intelligence 

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12 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Sentience = conciousness 

Conciousness = everything. 

Therefor, everything is sentient. 

I'm just waiting for the word "awareness" to be stolen too...


There is intelligence everywhere

– Some intelligence 

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6 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I'm just waiting for the word "awareness" to be stolen too...

I saw someone change the definition of bliss into dog poo already. 


To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom. It is to hold it in an open palm of your hand without clenching over it. 

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32 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Sentience = conciousness 

Conciousness = everything. 

Therefor, everything is sentient. 

Everything=Nothing 

Nothing is Sentient 


I'm Batman

 

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9 minutes ago, JoshB said:

Everything=Nothing 

Nothing is Sentient 

Nothingness* is sentience

Nothingness is everything. 

= Only sentience exists. 

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To truly love something is to grant that thing freedom. It is to hold it in an open palm of your hand without clenching over it. 

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Awakening isn’t a human experience. All your human ideas and fantasies of it aren’t it. 


𝐵𝑒𝑎𝑢𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑎𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝐼𝑛𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦 𑣲⋆。˚

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Just now, Yimpa said:

Awakening isn’t a human experience. All your human ideas and fantasies of it aren’t it. 

What's with this trend on the forum of explaining the most obvious traps and insights that have been repeated a million times. And hey I'm guilty of this too just thought I'd point it out


I'm Batman

 

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I am taking my leave from the forum. I am no longer interested in playing games.

 

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𝐵𝑒𝑎𝑢𝑡𝑦 𝑖𝑠 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑎𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝐼𝑛𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑖𝑡𝑦 𑣲⋆。˚

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23 minutes ago, JoshB said:

What's with this trend on the forum of explaining the most obvious traps and insights that have been repeated a million times. 

I totally agree.


When the secret is revealed to you, you will know that you are not other than God, but that you yourself are the object of your quest.

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37 minutes ago, Yimpa said:

Awakening isn’t a human experience. All your human ideas and fantasies of it aren’t it. 

@Yimpa You're just unconscious of the stuff i'm describing. 

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Make sure you don't twist things in your mind to spirituality bypass.

This sure sounds like a slippery sort of bypass thinking.


It is far easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled.

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So what you’re saying is it’s okay to kill animals and eat their meat because those animals are not sentient and they don’t experience pain? 
thats a load of crap.


“God is the Alpha Omega .. the beginning-less  beginning and the endless end . 
He is the first without start . He is the last without end . He is the manifest actuality ..nothing covers him . He is the most hidden essence  ..nothing can grasp him .. nothing below him or more subtle than him .The ego is the belief I’m separate from god . Because being god is too good to be true .No matter how dark it gets or difficult it gets ..no matter how long it is going to take .. my destiny is the infinite happiness and infinite joy and love as the best thing ever ..God .  “

-that’s a me .

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Want to talk about a slippery slope...this kind of reasoning can lead to justify cannibalism. Of course in solipsictic terms it's a god eating itself.

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4 hours ago, Majed said:

Therefore veganism gets debunked.

Everything debunks itself as the debunking that debunks itself. thats sortve like "i seen how the hand that writes itself is the hand that writes itself.... Therefore... i realize this one thing within the hand the writes itself isnt the thing anymore..."

Its still relevant to you, if veganism is helping you... In the same way, \*not being a glutton is a value that normal ppl can partake in, not being a prisoner to the senses is something you can partake in, as we are exploring mind, body, soul, two pillars and a door, the ultimate paradox, where nothing gets debunked in the way you are thinking ... And, even when it does get debunked, thats a perspective, an angle that youve chosen to observe or practice, but its not debunked by the hand that writes itself... Everything debunks itself as the debunking that debunks itself.

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