Am I Finally Ready To Let Go of Dating?

[questionreality]

2 hours ago, Emerald said:

That's not anything close to what my argument is. Re-read what I wrote.

Leo is definitely talented in the department of consciousness and intellect compared to most.

I am also talented in this way. So, are many on this forum. (Though most people on this forum do also have major blindspots that the average person doesn't have, because of the issues that I highlighted)

And it's not inherently an issue to acknowledge people's talents/skills on a practical level, as human specialization works that way.

The issue is believing that this particular human specialization that Leo has (and many in his audience have) is fundamentally different and superior to other human specializations... and looking down on others who don't possess this specialization and calling them chimps.

It would be like a bunch of plumbers getting together and operating under the notion that plumbing is the most important specialization. Then, they call all non-plumbers chimps.

The issue is the ego inflation and placing arbitrary hierarchies regarding human specializations on top of reality to justify and maintain that ego inflation.

So, sure... Leo is relatively talented/skilled with consciousness and intellect. But it's unwise to create an identity out of it and view other people through that lens... as it creates disconnection.

Like, I remember when my son was in 4th grade, he started getting some of the same kinds of ideas.

He'd heard online that other Gen Alphas are uniquely stupid compared to other generations on some random YouTube Short. (Of course, that's always been said about every generation of young people)

So, he started thinking of himself as the exception to the rule, and like a uniquely non-stupid Gen Alpha kid. So, I had to sit him down to talk to him about it and dispossess him of the notion that Gen Alphas are all uniquely stupid... as it was creating difficulties with socializing with peers... and creating shame about being his own age. (Similar to how people who view themselves as better than other humans can develop shame about being a regular human being)

Though he was always trying to hang out with his older sister's teenage friends... who were nice to him. But he couldn't get a true peer relationship with them.

Then, the next year over he was able to let go of that superior identity of being "the only non-stupid kid" (similar to "the rare conscious person among chimps"). And that enabled him to make some friends who were on the same wavelength. 

And I see this same pattern playing out all the time on this forum.

So, I'm content to have the same kind of conversation with Leo and anyone else who's caught up in that kind of pattern... as it's just not good to be caught in that trap.

@Emerald I know we’ve disagreed in the past on a different topic, but it’s genuinely been a pleasure reading the gold you’ve been posting here. You’ve articulated the truth with remarkable eloquence and delicacy, putting into words an observation that I think is shared by many people who have spent enough time on this forum and paid attention to the same patterns. 

It's remarkable to me that there are people who say that they "been doing this work" for many years and yet can't spot the obvious pattern that seems to be lying on the surface.

[Alexop]

45 minutes ago, questionreality said:

@Emerald I know we’ve disagreed in the past on a different topic, but it’s genuinely been a pleasure reading the gold you’ve been posting here. You’ve articulated the truth with remarkable eloquence and delicacy, putting into words an observation that I think is shared by many people who have spent enough time on this forum and paid attention to the same patterns. 

It's remarkable to me that there are people who say that they "been doing this work" for many years and yet can't spot the obvious pattern that seems to be lying on the surface.

What patterns can't they spot?

Not to be rude, but a bit rude should one be here because we are here to develop and become better not just treating each other like we are children.... What exactly is so "gold" here: ??

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The issue is believing that this particular human specialization that Leo has (and many in his audience have) is fundamentally different and superior to other human specializations... and looking down on others who don't possess this specialization and calling them chimps.

She has to understand that consciousness is something else, it is not the same as say: being good at drawing or whatever simple task. The difference between learning some skill inside the dream and becoming aware that you are in a dream 😊

This is why raising consciousness is among hardest things one can do in life. This is why we can send a man to the moon but cannot solve apparently simple tasks as corruption in our systems and of course Inside each of us. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Alexop

[Thought Art]

7 hours ago, Emerald said:

That's not what I'm claiming. Differentiation in quality and ability exists.

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[Thought Art]

@Emerald Do you think hierarchy can exist without being about power, better or worse, ego striving? For example a worm vs a pig? Sure they are both equally animals. But perhaps the genetics of the pig lets it access more of consciousness than a worm who only requires basic functions. A worm doesn’t even have eyes. 
 

What if a clear observation is made that some humans are more educated than others? Couldn’t they be more conscious too?

Edited 1 hour ago by Thought Art

[Thought Art]

Here is an example of why I think I am more conscious than chimps/ apes. 🦧 
 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Dbx_B1HMUfP/?stkn=MWdsOWtpYTZzeGwz

[meta_male]

4 hours ago, Jirh said:

It's clear to me that he thinks high consciousness is the highest and best virtue that no other virtues exist or have significant value in comparison.

To be fair, after reading through the whole thread, I think he just wanted to share his struggles, get some sympathy and clarity, rather than necessarily having a problem solved right away.