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@TruthFreedom beautifully said, yes, and it´s easy to get self-conscious as well, until you start to see the humor in it.

@LastThursday exactly not being stuck in your own head and being in a flow or letting it flow out naturally without resistance towards what comes out of your mouth and how that will be recieved by others. Thank you for sharing.

@Mellowmarsh Bentinho is just preparing you for any type of abuse, financially, sexually, whatever he wants.

@Lila9 thank you for sharing this, this is exactly what I meant by God complex and spiritual ego. As the disregard of ego and everything being one, makes you blind to more nuanced things like good versus evil and then a guru can do all kinds of evil in the name of nonduality.

yep, as with Bentinho and probably many more gurus. Giving them that enlightenment sex, for their spiritual growth. Lol

Lately I have been working really hard and my work involves allot of communication, I am talking with many people and I recently had a breakthrough in my charisma, at least what I noticed. Yet its hard for me to pinpoint what exactly it is, as it´s something that came naturally through loads of interactions. Some things are best that come natural and not just from some forced technique. What I would describe as what happened was that I was able to just relax more, maybe the mix of being tired from all the work as well as the constant social interactions, made me have 0 thoughts and just speak my mind unfiltered. You know when something is terrible, and you can´t just stop laughing, because it´s so awful, maybe you embarrassed yourself awfully or a situation is just hopeless that it makes you laugh and see the funny side of the situation or the moment. That is kind of how I have been feeling, not taking anything seriously and seeing how ridiculous life is and can be. I think thats the best state for me atleast to be charismatic, is having 0 thoughts and seeing everything as funny, not forcing it to be funny, but genuinely see how horribly funny life is, including yourself, like how you are trying stuff and failing, it´s just hilarious, like for me, I try a bunch of new stuff and fail so much, that it becomes hilarious and that laughter makes me relax and speak with more charisma and be naturally more funny. This is what I think has been my mini breakthrough this week, but I would love to hear from others what their version of charisma is and their definition of charisma. P.S. One more thing I would say is that I had less pressure on myself both less financial stress as I was working more and also less pressure to do my best, so instead of trying, it was more like I was just winging it. If that makes any sense. Pressure and being a try hard isn´t really the best way to unleash your charisma. I feel like winging it, just give it a shot, not even considering the outcome worked so well for me. If you fail it´s a joke; if it works great as well, no performance pressure whatsoever.

@LordFall Sure, that is why I said to do it for money or purpose. Having attention can still be valuable in business or in terms of purpose. There are also ways to make money without fame, so it isn’t necessarily true that you have to chase fame to make money. Saying it’s phenomenal is dragging it; it’s useful. If you say it’s amazing, that mainly comes from some narcissistic tendency, loving being the center of attention and in the spotlight more than being happy. In my opinion and experience its better to chase purpose or money, if you are gonna chase anything at all. Stage green isn't too bad, too many people are stuck in stage orange or lower. If you want to bring people up, you should bring them up to stage yellow.

@Hojo Maybe if you had 100 friends applauding you, it would feel like something special, but who has 100 friends? And if they aren’t friends, why do you want a stranger to clap for you? It might sound like love, but it’s just a high, like going on a roller coaster. It might give you adrenaline, but it doesn’t give you happiness, and it wears off fast as well. A stranger will clap for you one moment and throw a tomato at you the next. They don’t know you; it’s only a projection onto you, projecting either good or bad, or whatever lies in between, onto you. If you are a vegetarian, everyone claps. If you turn into a hardcore cannibal, they will throw tomatoes at you. It’s superficial.

I think we should all sleep, tomorrow is a new day to fight again with each other lol

@Willy Phallicus rather until death brings us together lol

@James123 your form of spirituality sounds like suicide. Enlightenment can only be true if you are truly dead, not half alive. If it's so important to be letting go of the body then letting it go completly would be the only real answer, what is death, what is enlightenment, because before that the ego will just hide in the form of some God complex, thinking it has reached the ultimate and its proud of it too.

@Mellowmarsh I am not really in those forums so I have no idea, unless you mean this forum. I think its good to clairify some things with others tho, even if they get it wrong, its good to express some thoughts yourself you know.

@Someone here are you saying escapism is not an escape?

@Someone here by an escape I mean its not a permanent state as you can access it in silence or in some moments during the day, but when responsibilities are demanded from you, you have to return back to the relative world. Aka escaping responsibilities, just like entertainment is escaping your responsibilities or even sleep can be an escape. Something to take you away from your relative world and your problems or responsibilities, that is why when you return from your meditation your still broke, and that manifestation meditation didn't bring you a million euros

@Breakingthewall so what would be, according to you, the practice for people? and how to prevent God complex issues in spiritual communities and spiritual leaders?