Ladyboys

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, Butters said:

isn't the distinction between gay and straight historically tied to homophobia?

No.

Watch out for sloppy thinking.

[Nemra]

Gay = Homosexual man

Homosexual = People who are attracted to people of their own sex.

[Butters]

1 minute ago, Nemra said:

Gay = Homosexual man

Homosexual = People who are attracted to people of their own sex.

Yes but Leo called men who are attracted to Trans women gay, so the discussion became about gender. 

I just don't see the lines being that clear. 

[Nemra]

9 minutes ago, Butters said:

Yes but Leo called men who are attracted to Trans women gay, so the discussion became about gender.

I wouldn't say they are strictly gay. Perhaps they have gay tendencies.

I don't know, but there could be another term for them.

[Ramasta9]

[ItsNick]

This thread is so weird.

It's okay to be gay or bi. Or queer if you prefer a more general term. But straight means you exclusively want the opposite sex.

You can still do whatever you want and have sex with whoever you want. And straight people don't have to be queer to be accepting. Not everyone is queer.

[Talinn]

20 hours ago, Yimpa said:

A lady with a Magic Wand brings me immense joy. That is all I have to contribute to this thread.

I like your journal Yimpa.

[Phil King]

7 hours ago, Butters said:

Leo called men who are attracted to Trans women gay, so the discussion became about gender. 

I just don't see the lines being that clear. 

Yea I could see this.

@Leo Gura What is more gay? Being attracted to a person who looks like megan fox but they have a penis or being attracted to a hideous/masculine women with a pussy? Deep questions to contemplate

[lostingenosmaze]

C'mon ya'll, it's clear Leo has a folder in his porn stache dedicated to drawn disembodied pussies to wank to now and then. That's just how straight he is!

[Nemra]

38 minutes ago, lostingenosmaze said:

C'mon ya'll, it's clear Leo has a folder in his porn stache dedicated to drawn disembodied pussies to wank to now and then. That's just how straight he is!

[ChadT]

Gay men don't tend to like trans women.  Most people are somewhere on a spectrum.  I had a gay friend who was 99% into dudes, but every now and then, he would find a certain woman sexually attractive.  Just like what you like and don't get hung up on labeling it. 

[Lyubov]

Thing is there is a ton of shame around stuff like this and straight guys get real defensive when that’s questioned. it’s confusing as shit too cause granted most trans women 99.99% are not convincing or attractive but then there are a few ladyboys that are extremely feminine and exotic enough to push buttons by being different and then guy who really prefer conventional women gets a little confused when they get a lil aroused by a ladyboy. Would I date a ladyboy. Nah pass. Would I sleep with one? honestly if I was single, no. I would stick to conventional women. It’s not a line I feel comfortable crossing. Can I acknowledge some of them are sexually arousing due to their femininity and fetishized appeal? Yes ok. It ain’t a crime to be a freak. Would I yell this loudly out in a bar or to the boys. Hellll nahhh! I’m not wanting to be roasted and called gay by everyone. 

Edited Wednesday at 07:11 PM by Lyubov

[yetineti]

You all preach context and subjectivity and then call straight men defensive for not liking penises or trans-women.

You guys can’t even define new terms or your own sexuality so when a straight man, who really, really, simply, will fuck anything—except something with a penis— you guys lose it.

”It doesn’t make sense! Those aren’t the rules! We have new terms!”

Yet the infighting continues because while trans-ideology and new gender theories can help individuals with unique circumstances, the framework is logically abysmal to the point where you guys can’t even define it amongst yourselves and it has corrupted our social fabric.

Do whatever you want. But if you can’t explain it, keep it to yourself or at the very least know it’s obvious; your lack of direction.

Edited Wednesday at 10:15 PM by yetineti

[Adrian colby]

On 02/02/2026 at 10:17 PM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

The effect of 'certainty hardening' could possibly be a reflection of the balancing swing of open/closed systems. We see this in politics also. A symbiotic swing back and forth, tracing balance through time and progression. I suppose due diligence from ourselves is captured in ensuring one polarity does not move too far into extremism. 

It might be worth it note, a function of maturity can also be becoming more concrete and certain in our views and way of life; as we grow we learn what works to accomplish, what works for our integrity. It can be confronting to be faced with this calcification of a person. This is not always the case by any means. But it is ones tested mode of operation that have worked for them to a point. Very important to remain open to other methods, modes of being, ways of seeing etc.

It is incredibly pressing to realise we are not responsible for how others feel, or their actions. Of course there is some nuance here, as some things are completely offensive or taboo to all. But I would never condone self-censure. Honest, integral & compassionate expression is precisely how we can touch our own sense of the internal sublime. 

My personal views on the topic - if you were interested? I do not put any labels on people. They just are. I suppose a label can act to describe something, but all too often users, people, bring their loaded and burdened ideas to the word. 

And the label means something different to everyone - as illustrated well in this thread.

I can discern something is 'not for me', but I simply abhor casting judgement  

@Natasha Tori Maru  thanks Natasha 

I appreciate the depth and always open to your point of view. I used to love getting into long proper conversations but I’ve met my exhaustion in the past year.