I don't care what people say, women DO NOT like masculine men

[XXXXXX]

On 22/11/2025 at 2:48 PM, EternalForest said:

But I don't know what to do.

Are you serious? You really have no idea how to get better with women?

[Zenterus]

You're right. Saying that women are attracted to masculine men is like saying that men are attracted to big tits. Yeah, generally speaking that is true but it's just one piece if the pie.

What women are actually attracted are integrated men. Men who love all aspects of themselves and are living in alignment with who they really are without shame or compromising their values out of neediness.

I know feminine men who are really good with women because they are brave enough to own their feminine traits and move through the world with an underlying sense of power. You look at them and instantly think "that guys is awesome" just by the energy of love they exhude within themselves and onto others.

I also know very masculine men that are like that and everything in between.

When you develop self love, a love for life, a love for play and socialisation, then you naturally behave in "high value" ways; You dont supplicate, you set boundaries, you express your genuine emotions, you're vulnerable, polarizing, own your sexuality, are strong in your stances and have a naturally playful relationship with the world and women. 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Zenterus said:

What women are actually attracted are integrated men.

Haha.

This is contradicted by the absolute scumbags they sleep with.

Edited yesterday at 04:15 PM by Leo Gura

[LordFall]

@Leo Gura Most emotionally mature women don't sleep with scumbags. Depends how you define scumbag obviously but high quality women generally have especially long term relationships with high quality men. I don't know very many low level dudes banging or dating attractive and emotionally healthy women and I've been in the game community for almost 15 years. 

[Anonymous_2727]

@EternalForest Dont assume things. Step outside your front porch and you'll see women are almost always attracted to hyper-masculine men. 

[Basman]

It's really hard to pinpoint what women want, I find. One the one hand, a lot of the media that caters to them features effeminate men, but I've also seen genuinely beautiful women hanging out with drug dealers types. 

If I've gotten anything from this thread then that is it doesn't hurt to embrace your natural femininity, which is freeing. 

[Zenterus]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Haha.

This is contradicted by the absolute scumbags they sleep with.

@Leo Gura Integrated doesnt mean good. A man can love himself to an almost narcissistic self serving way and that confidence will attract a specific subset of women. You attract what you are, of course, so they're both going to be extremely dysfunctional together, but it still proves my point.

Assuming you want a high quality partner then you're gonna have to integrate your being in a healthy, ever loving way to attract a quality girl.

[Basman]

The guy most successful with women I know is a spoiled drug addicted millionaire who regularly gets panic attacks who runs a large club.

[aurum]

The good news is that even if women are attracted to scumbags, it's unnecessary.

You can get all the success you need going the integrated path. You might not sleep with as many women in terms of sheer quantity, but your long-term relationships will be much stronger.

Edited 17 hours ago by aurum