New Video: What Is Fake Spirituality?

[Nemra]

@Leo Gura, so, did I understand correctly that psychedelics are intended for deconstruction and inducing radical states, while non-stop meditation is sitting while getting extremely bored in order to learn to be present or to accept reality in your normal state?

[JosephKnecht]

3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Tl;dr ples

According to Leo, there are two things in existence. 

1. Survival: This includes going to Burning Man, having threesomes, science, business, all types of socializing, and pretty much every human endeavor ever undertaken. 

2. Spirituality: All the things Leo teaches + sitting in the closet for a week  - all fun stuff above.

They seem to be mutually exclusive; choose your thing wisely.  

[Carl-Richard]

4 minutes ago, JosephKnecht said:

According to Leo, there are two things in existence. 

1. Survival: This includes going to Burning Man, having threesomes, science, business, all types of socializing, and pretty much every human endeavor ever undertaken. 

2. Spirituality: All the things Leo teaches + sitting in the closet for a week  - all fun stuff above.

They seem to be mutually exclusive; choose your thing wisely.  

I will watch.

[Alexop]

You can fall in love with Maya while living in Maya and by loving every moment of Maya you would be better att everything you do in Maya. My favorite spiritual method is conscious living. But I will try to stay bored in my room for days and see what happens. 

Edited July 15 by Alexop

[freddyteisen]

@Nemra which 2 psychedelics?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Carl-Richard

I think you will enjoy this one Carl! 

Survival - the selfs attempt to drive to certainty. Alleviate fear. Certainty is the aim.

Spirituality is acting in friction to this survival self - diving into uncertainty. Dislodging all those concepts and ideas we form in an attempt to gain certainty. Becoming uncertain again. Getting the self out of the way - like lifting the 'self' cataract off the iris so we can directly experience reality and truth. 

This goes into how real spirituality can be destabilising, terrifying and scary. Like a rewind to the uncertainty of infancy. 

I haven't finished the ep yet.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, so, did I understand correctly that psychedelics are intended for deconstruction and inducing radical states, while non-stop meditation is sitting while getting extremely bored in order to learn to be present or to accept reality in your normal state?

Yes

1 hour ago, JosephKnecht said:

According to Leo, there are two things in existence. 

1. Survival: This includes going to Burning Man, having threesomes, science, business, all types of socializing, and pretty much every human endeavor ever undertaken. 

2. Spirituality: All the things Leo teaches + sitting in the closet for a week  - all fun stuff above.

They seem to be mutually exclusive; choose your thing wisely.  

They are not mutually exclusive but easily confused.

[Adrian colby]

It was interesting watching this video at this particular moment in time ( synchronistic with a number of things I’ve been trying to teach, but also deeply personal to what I’ve been moving through myself.)

What I find myself contemplating now is the distinction between the Burning Man-style polyamorous experience during the truth-seeking phase, before the realisation of infinity (negating) - versus after the return journey (integrating), when such a lifestyle becomes a chosen expression of how reality moves through that character.

From the outside, it can appear as hedonistic or “false” spirituality. But from within, it may just as easily be a post-realization, sovereign expression or a way for reality to experience itself playfully and freely through that form.

Some may engage in this pattern from a place of need or attachment, craving loving interaction. But others may have come into a stable state of being as love itself, and so their connections become love communing with itself through the apparent other.

This is similar to what I experienced over the past year.

Five years ago, after exhausting all contemplation, belief, and knowledge , everything suddenly stopped. In the silence, what remained was the direct encounter with God: not as a concept, but as the dissolving of the seeker itself. There was nothing left but infinity staring back. Kind of  like Leo’s description of driving the car at night until the mind stops and reality steps forward.

( I actually like doing this intermittently to contrast the noise of contemplation with the stillness of reality or rather deafening silence of the real)

Having seen that or rather, having become unable to see anything else (the hand trying to grasp itself, a formless ‘no-thing’)  I dropped the truth-seeking altogether. For about a year, I let myself re-enter the dream, to integrate and live. I would describe that as exploring consciousness through the full spectrum of what the mind has created.

I personally expanded after seeing the distinction between sovereign self-love as being, and the harmful projection of love onto another.  the expectation of reciprocation that would contract the heart when unmet. The state of sovereign love brought with it a quiet strength and confidence. It didn’t need others, nor seek them out, but embraced them fully in moments of deepened connection. I was accused of greed and polyamory until I explained the inner dynamic that had caused that shift.

@Leo Gura I wonder, do you still consider the sovereign choice to reform the self for unique expression (allowing reality to move through that form) as a kind of “false spirituality,” even after the realisation of infinity?

After my “fuck it all” year, what’s emerged is a deeper desire for authentic expression. Life itself has become more poetic. And interestingly, even subtler layers of conditioning have come to the surface to be seen.

There’s now a kind of freedom to consciously choose which parts of the character’s personality remain and which dissolve based simply on what inhibits genuine expression. The illusion of a fixed ego or lower self is seen through, so change doesn’t feel like a struggle. I’ve certainly managed to achieve more than I have in the past and been in a better position to hold space and guide people through their conditioning or trauma. 

 

I suppose what I’m really trying to articulate is this: a person may look like they’re engaged in “false” spirituality ( the typical New Age or hippy aesthetic ) but their inner reality makes all the difference. One may be seeking God, clinging to the image; the other may be God, freely choosing that image as an artistic expression of sovereign being.

 

[Leo Gura]

@Adrian colby If you are at such an advanced stage then all I can tell you is: introspect to find the answer of whether your activity is aligned with truth or not. In the end it's up to you to hold yourself accountable.

Of course unique expression, play, art, and even entertainment is allowed. It's a matter of whether you are conscious of your survival or not.

Edited July 15 by Leo Gura

[Princess Arabia]

One of your best, Leo. I totally enjoyed this one. Still have to watch the last 50mins, though. You also said a lot of things I was surprised to hear you say. Agreeably so.

Edited July 15 by Princess Arabia

[Leo Gura]

@Princess Arabia Thanks!

[Rafael Thundercat]

Just smashed few minutes ago a giant red centipede in my livingroom. I thought was a small snake when I saw the cats playing with it. In this times is quasi impossible to say I am not acting from survival. The animal was not directy offering me any threat than a future possible threat of biting me or the cats, so I killed it. This is how real the dream can get. Freaking God

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Finished, enjoyed. Back to the heart of the matter. Real spirituality.

Not knowing. Throw away concepts/ideas. Verify ones personal truth.

Realise how your beliefs interfere with your ability to truly be present, grounded in experience. Reveal God.

The experience and presence of God is always here, we just aren't seeing it due to survival and the need for certainty.

It's quite ironic that people are screaming for certainty (certainty here being a subjective form of truth) in survival based life - and so seek spirituality to inform this certainty. But truly engaging with the spiritual process is dislodging this certainty - the self - and removing ego. Doing the exact opposite of what they seek. A great destabilising destruction of the self only to be reset. I think this is the part of the process most are not prepared for... I personally feel this is not to be confused with depersonalisation. Being OF the body/within the body is fundamental to being able to interact in a relative way to the distinctions of reality. That feedback is important.

Through the spiritual process in the end, you become more resolved, sink in to Maya - because the certainty of Truth is the ultimate salve. 

Raising the consciousness to encapsulate more than the self.

 

[Thought Art]

Good video! Thanks 🙏 

I would say, Peter Ralston and Vernon Howard teach this kind of spirituality. I would also say, Lester Levonson, Sedonna Method and Byron Katie teach aspects of this real spirituality. 

Edited July 16 by Thought Art

[integration journey]

Haven’t watched it yet but Thank you so much. 

[Someone here]

Haven't watched yet . But for those who do ...is it safe to watch and there is not much Leo's solipsistic nihilistic deconstructing of all the beautiful fictions of life and belief bubbles ? I'm asking cuz I'm experiencing serious anxiety from Leo's videos 😂. 

[CARDOZZO]

We are not allowed to demonize Trump, Musk or humans anymore. This is fake spirituality. 

[Leo Gura]

14 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

We are not allowed to demonize Trump, Musk or humans anymore. This is fake spirituality. 

We do not demonize them. We just say that they are egotistical lairs. This is in alignment with truth-seeking and deconstructing illusions. We don't want to be hoodwinked by Trump's and Musk's illusions, which is exactly their game.

Edited July 16 by Leo Gura

[Someone here]

Few minutes in..

"The truth is your mind is imagining the entire world ".

No thanks Leo. See ya in the next one .😂 

[Terell Kirby]

40 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

We do not demonize them. We just say that they are egotistical lairs. 

Demonization coming from separation.

Trump & Musk are indeed devils, but all devils are manifestations of God.