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@Leo Gura I still think you're extremly "enlightened" in matter of understanding how experience occurs, at least, very close of purity. But it's like you still believe in science inside a construct. ( I use science, for a lack of emptiness ) Like if you were aware to me, you would be able to defend a position anti vax and pro vax fully for instance, while noticing that both positions are absolutely equals in the non sense, and that both are based on dreaming paradigms and experiences. You still dreaming stages of consciousness, personality type, and many things, and those things are the last attachment you must get rid of to reach fully alien consciousness. it seems you really want this to be real somehow, I know it's painful to know that everything you built your dream upon is absolutely empty, but it has to be seen, it's like the final trick of the ego to stay in the play it know the best. Also psychedelics does nothing at all, and doesn't produce more enlightment, and maybe they do, but really it doesn't matter, you might attribute causality where there is none. I know, you based all your works upon those things, but really, there is a next stage, where all stages and fictions melts.

Sigh your not getting it. What they are saying is Alien Consciousness relative to the human Consciousness is so different of an experience that it can destroy the human experience. Only when someone stops being in human consciousness and takes on a radically different one can they understand. If you entered a state of consciousness where your thinking increased to super sonic speeds, there was a ridiculous constant flow of energy that felt like bombs going off, and you felt Self Love so powerful that you were creating and destroying things with mere thoughts...it would be very hard to go back to human consciousness and take all of this real. Consider if you ever reached these states and came back that humans would appear like Sim characters walking around to you. Many of you don't understand what "REAL" is. "REAL" is a relational concept that can easily be destroyed. You go far enough in this work and you won't see a difference between Mickey Mouse and a human...they will both be experienced as pure imagination.

Human is just a role you're playing in the collective consciousness. Alien is also a role.

You are saying we are in the dark ages still, but compared to what? Imagined alien technological advancements? What i'm saying is, we are only wherever we are at. How can there be a real comparison when there's only: "where were at" ❤️

@Vibes @Yimpa That's why I feel the need to stick to a routine, I've been scared for a year and a half but everytime I muster the courage to trip, like I did twice this month, I realize there was nothing to be scared of, ridiculous self-deception If not for fear I would already be some kind of alien mind right now, we all would I guess

First I had one experince where I was in contemplation of a single Bias the Bias against certain temperatures. Imagine you go to take a shower and you forget this bias, you end up burned very soon, thats why you modulate the shower to be exactly a tolerable heat. I notice this as a Bias and ask myself what would happen If I would let go of this Bias. I could not live long if I was indiferent to hot or cold, this distiction is not even equal to all living organisms. Check the Volcano Snail for example, this creature is an Alien in this planet. https://youtu.be/7GFtRPYfvcs?si=2qUReiXs0HaYEULN And even being a creature thar can Survive in such extreme temperature it still need to be constrained to some balance, maybe it would not survive at extreme cold water or even ice, but I heard of a frog that can freeze and come back to life.

now the question is of degree Because there are infinite levels of consciousness, I could be like leo and take so many psychedelics I rewire my brain having episodes of alien consciousness whenever I close my eyes (does leo still experience this or did it pass?) anyway, I’m not interested in that. I don’t think most on this forum are interested in that. All I really want is the clarity I had the days after my last DMT trip. acutely aware that this is a construction of my mind . but I don’t need to live in alien consciousness. I don’t think that would be helpful.

Probably lots of reasons. The ones that @An young being and @PurpleTree have mentioned might be among them... and perhaps also the fact that a snake seems almost like an alien creature to a human being and elicits a very deep rooted & primal fear response from them; all of this is analogous to a human being's relationship with Infinity.

The alien stuff is not so much about the chemical you use as it is about completely going beyond all the human spiritual concepts and teachings, and really starting to use your mind in an out-of-the-box way. After you've achieved all the standard nondual consciousness and insights, you start to wonder, what's next? And then the possibility opens up for new kinds of consciousness, completely beyond anything humans talk about.

@Leo Gura You described 5 meo Malt so perfectly in your Video, because me and those I know who took it, experienced same effects and can therefore resonate. So 5 meo malt works on many others almost the same as on you. I never told my girlfriend about your teachings at all, but she talks like you because She experienced on these 5 meo substances the same God realization you do. At least up to your last Videos. Who knows what you have discovered since then. So I hope alien mind will be accessible for serious psychonauts.

Everyone is different. I have no idea what will get anyone to alien consciousness but me. I have achieved insane consciousness on weed. But that's me. You ain't me.

@Leo Gura Can weed alone really take you there? To experience alien consciousness? Because on weed, I have had identical experiences to what the gentleman in the post described so eloquently. I wonder if it’s possible to go higher on weed alone.

@PurpleTree That's only your bias toward survival and the belief that you know how to keep surviving as an ego that makes you believe that you shall act as A or B. The perfection is the very fact you're feeling incomplete; that's the thing that keeps you going. Of course, it is total delusion. Nothing is to be accomplished or done about anything. There is no better or worse in absolute, just a self-driving process that will turn you to believe that you shall move in a direction to keep fitness and preservation. But all of that is a thought right now; it has to be realized in absolute because no thoughts acknowledge reality. Fully realized, nothing makes any sense. Absolutely everything is an ordered chaos that you're alien with. You just meditate your life away. No evil construct, only love and God.

Alien Insanity or gtfo.

There is a whole order of higher, trans-human dimension to Consciousness. Like Alien Consciousness and others.

@UnbornTao None? That cant be. I mean alien mind excluded, everything he teaches about reality like you are god etc is already in many religions/traditions included.

Regardless of whether it's true that there's a case to be made that it's about caring more about your closest in-group vs other in-groups, or in-group vs an alien out-group (which would then be a human thing rather than a "Muslim" thing), one thing remains certain: the response is appropriate. It will always remain true that showing solidarity to innocent Palestinians when they are faced with a possible catastrophe is appropriate. Next, if we assume that the disproportionate response is not because Israel was made by an international community and therefore it owes its' obedience to international laws and norms (unlike a 3rd world dictator); Israel is allied with western governments and can be pressured (unlike a China); there's no end in sight for this nearly century-old conflict and we can guess it could end with the displacement of a people (unlike in Syria where we know the war will end and that there will still be Syrians there); then the right way to approach the lack of equality of responses would be how can we get humans to feel this strongly about x, y, and z. Rather than this unspoken implication that their response lacks authenticity. That Arabs don't care about Arabs. Muslims don't care about Muslims. Because this is absolutely untrue.

@Leo Gura I hope your course is coming soon! I am hyped for this When I watched 'Annihilation,' I imagined alien consciousness in this way: highly intelligent sneaky strange alien being, autistic and playful in it's behaviour but at the same time in deep love for its own creation.

Wait till you discover Alien Consciousness

Solipsism for kids . Are you even aware of cartoon wolf alien supercomputer?

@Razard86 Thank you for your answer. May I ask you what states you are capable of maintaining and to what extent? Are you Awake to solipsism and to being God in your current experience? I have mixed feelings about this issue because I've heard a lot from Leo that it was really hard in general to raise one's baseline consciousness and that, by being a human and so being finite, our body gives us limits which prevents us from remaining extremely conscious. Some levels or some awakenings (like alien consciousness for example) would not be practical or possible to sustain while having a human life. However, I also heard him say from his experience with DPT that it felt that it would be possible to rewire the brain or heal the body in deep extents. In my second to last awakening, I had a sense of that. I felt like if I wanted to, I would have the power (as God) to do so. And that I would have the power as well, if I wanted to, to remain conscious of being God in my current body, and so function in my everyday life differently than how I do now with my ego (what you are saying). I think that there is some truth in both and I'm curious to explore. Hearing many times that it was hard to raise one's baseline state of consciousness and that it was better done with other practices than psychedelics, I've been thinking that there must be truth to that. But I actually don't know to what extent it is true or not yet. Thank you for the links! I've seen them a long time ago but I will rewatch.

1. Enter an altered state. 2. Have studied the concepts of Non-Duality that you understand it enough that its not bullshit to you. You can't fake this shit. If you don't understand it, it won't happen. That is the whole point of the teachings. 3. Under the altered state start stripping away your beliefs that you have been educated into. Focus on what is true in your direct experience not on what the content of the dream has taught you through education and science. You can only do this if you truly understand intellectually that there is no difference between your dreams at night and what you call your regular life (waking dream). 4. If you follow the above steps, an existential fear is going to arise. Sit and allow it. This will be the MOMENT OF TRUTH. You will discover in this moment if you really want to awaken or not. 5. Now don't beat yourself up if you retreat back to the safety of your character identity. Because this is the hardest thing you can ever do. You are killing the dream of duality, of individuality, so it can be jarring. But the great thing is you got to experience the existential fear and now this process is REAL to you. That fear isn't an accident. It points to the fact that YOU as presently constructed will DIE. Your body will remain, but you will cause a permanent shift in your experience if you go further. The fear is there to test how badly you want it. If you want it, that fear won't stop you and you will do it again until you accomplish it. So how do you accomplish it? Do the steps, sit in the fear, and it will happen on its own. Your mind will deconstruct itself on its own since you sufficiently convinced yourself that you do not agree with your original construction of reality. This will start a several months long process of your body rewiring your neurological system to make the experience of Oneness PERMANENT. One of the parts of this process gave me a terribly bad trip where I felt like I was getting raped metaphysically. Why? Because I was becoming ONE with everything on such a deep level it was like everything was penetrating me and entering me. LOL. Talk about invasion of privacy. Now why did it feel like this? Because my sense of a body became everything around me. So it felt like the whole world was entering my body like someone trying to share the same clothes as you as you are wearing it. Anyway at the time I realize it only felt like a violation because in comparison to my normal experience it felt alien, and wrong. Now it's natural and normal. It's so obvious that reality is ONE because that is my lived experience, no different than you feeling like a separate individual. I both experience Oneness, and Duality at the same time. If you want an example how to do it. Watch this video by Leo. You can just listen to this video over and over with an open mind and if you believe what is being stated in this video as truth...it will happen on its own. Repeat this until it happens. IT WILL, if you want it.

That's symbolized by how cats are really aliens and goes back to the ancient Egyptian alien God Bastet, who was also known in Ailuros (Koinē Greek: αἴλουρος, lit. 'cat') No it has nothing to do with the Masons but makes a good conspiracy theory though.

Wrote briefly about Leo's new blog post. I was originally interested in A.I & stuff due to fantasy & sci-fi themes within dysotopian anime culture as a teen. The point of ones mental capacity defined by genetics and beign able to change genetics is very interesting, for me especially as it's more a social issue at times, and I relate differently emotionally so that area of whatever is just not that activated at times. I dunno as I am "supposed to be gifted" I might test myself very late in life etc. It's an odd experience, especially if exerpience and training is missing that is the point of underachievers as a gifted person etc. I don't think Leo as a very stereotypical and classical overachiever comprehends this as much as he thinks he might does, yet he has compassion for limits, yet I don't think he realizes how this truely is if your gifts are not nutured or taken from you, as well as highly interconnected. Especially as a guy who most likely grew up without the more harder connection between intelligence and physicality and still beign a normal human etc, as it evokes directly drives for power, fame and beauty at best imo. And creates envy. For me this is odd as performance can dramatically suffer if there is inequality and often times that hardnosed rationalist perspective just sucks instead of non-judgement with empathy -> more loving people. That is also why I stopped giving my best as it's a very odd dynamic and I've seen plenty of highly intelligent minorities who have given up due to the "whiteness" of this area and just the social non, non-judgemental area etc. Especially if they are from countries with bias, it's very painful as they realize it, yet still have the social lense and want to break it while they are creating it. I'd say Leo is immune to this mostly, yet the energy of skeptecism can evoke it just at times casually as an inquistion to Truth so to speak which is not good. I dunno I stopped when I meet people who have excellent memory I often remember the very fine details they forget and holistic details if I care, and if I care I'll automatically remember what they remember, it just depends. I've never sort of trained my memory more as I've had to many arguments about this and I still don't remember pragmatic stuff as much, as my brain goes into default mode of I can look it up to save myself the stress etc. That is why doing creates very strong circuits usually a plateau reached is usually a plateau reached for me, I can re-learn it very very fast and this has been a thing that has been praised within my family. They can't really seem to be able to do that. That is why I choose re-creation as one of my strenghts for a part of my time etc. I am very good at finding alternatives that are useful, yet often take the extra mile to create and or even do. Which is still a high cognitive order, I really miss some classic schooling and the goodness of it. Sort of the deserved feeling of it etc. Right now I just sort of contemplate as my life has been a contradiction. I might take the mensa test sooner or later to navigate my career more clearly into a direction where I have mental strengths that suit me. It's still very unclear with high more feeling intuitives, if they don't have the social sphere, like my best classes usually have been biology/math (only maths)/cs/&languages&sports&music -> I was never good at chemistry, physics, (german language) etc. Everything that was alien and new sort if I still wonder what my true mental capacities are, and what I am good at so to speak. Even with a lot of personality tests, and indicators. My best abillity seems to be sequential thinking if that is a thing, and creative problem solving. So yeah that is that. Feeling somehow better today, had a real drive towards wholeness of merit and executing on a task. I am still sort of not really in the space of very good balance due to some stuff within my upbringing like my mother not beign career focused, and I don't have the drive for a career for example. It's very odd to contemplate, yet I get a lot of joy of getting things done and the feeling of freedom associated with it. I just notice the impatient & toxic persona when there is to much stuff & I am afraid of that. The point is I keep also having very high iq friends, it's just not good if you've suffered from some form of developmental damage that is not very much identifiable, as you contradict it with some other evidence, being in between two things yet not there can be quiet tormenting. Yeah that is sort of it, due to the bullying and beign more empathic, I just stopped beign more intelligent as other start feeling significantly inferior, which is an issue and I don't feel one bit like this I am just beign passionate. That is and has been a huge issue, not with my mother, yet with cynnicals skepticst where fear kicks-in for some reason.

There's something that to me feels quite relevant to this thread but no one has mentionned yet and it's this. Egos have diverging amounts of spiritual power, say manifestation will.. algorithms/modus operandi (to avoid the expression "lesser cheat codes") that are enabling them to perform in the way they do, take someone like Leo Messi (if you're a football fan) or Jacob Collier, these kind of people seem to have acheived almost unlimited potential (up to what can be done in human form) within their respective fields.. Their modus operandi, or "cheat codes" are simply skill, developed through countless hours during the span of decades, and at their level it's so aligned with flow that it becomes magical to witness. A subsequent question to what @Someone here has asked is this, There are in my view two types of understanding / skill / experience; * Local scope skill, i.e what pertains directly to their craft. * Global/Meta foundations: Unconditional Love for their craft, godly amount of confidence, and simply universal luck (them being who their are, and having lived the experiences they lived through... It almost feels like it was destined for them to be THAT good. Now the first set of skill is what can be targeted and worked on directly, but the second set almost feels like it can only be given to you by god (you). But why don't I (as god) give myself those keys? There is a very low ceiling that can be hit if we don't perceive life through a spiritual / Intergral lense. Hence the importance of following our intuitions, being atuned to synchronisities and opportunities, having the courage to follow our wildest dreams... But sometimes, no matter what one does, breakthroughs simply refuse to manifest... If we could just solve this one issues, I think we (as a species) would start tapping into infinite (alien) intelligence at a scale never seen before, and that would radically transform our experience on this plane. But how to do it if you are REALLY stuck ??