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Beautiful. Thank you for your response. Yes, indeed. At a certain stage, what is left is just Complete Silence. And within that Silence, Everything is Known. Nothing left to say, but to just Be. Can understand why some of the awakened yogis go silent for a few years or dedicate the rest of their lives to silence. Sure is. But even that is nothing in itself, arguing to nothing, about Nothing. All of it is just this. All our attempts and everything we do is just This. Emptiness Dancing.

Very interesting, thanks for sharing. It's not so much exaggeration and projection. The alchemists often talk about how the Great Work will bestow bodily immortality but if you read between the lines it is clear they really mean a spiritual liberation from death. As far as godly powers, these sound just like the Siddhis that many different paths can awaken. Where are you talking about? I would say that in the West for at least the last century the Left-Hand Path has been dominant, particularly in spiritual circles. For example, in the striking year 1888 three foundational events of the New Age movement took place: Helena Blavatsky (a woman, like many other theosophists and new-age spiritualists) published her book The Secret Doctrine, which heavily emphasised an epistemology of direct experience and "channelling" as opposed to stifling scripture; the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was established, which held very "progressive" views about gender and facilitated the rise of famous adepts of the Left-Hand like Aleister Crowley; and Nietzsche published his final books The Twilight of the Idols and The Antichrist (in a Christian context, how much more "left-handed" can you get?). In a way, what I have just described is like the Victorian sexophobia that you go on to describe collapsing in on itself and giving birth to a peculiarly one-sided and thus profane fascination with sex that is very noticeable today. Yes, but there are many reports from very varied sources of levitation, walking on water and other such things really taking place. After all, the Awakened One has conquered the dream of life, it is only natural that they will have a certain power over it!

Man I really hate how this became our game now, who is awakened and who isn’t, who is high consciousness and who is low, Again separating ourselves. You could be the only high conscious in one city all by yourself and still produce changes you were at a low consciousness state once before and some guy inspired you to elevate and become who you think you are now, but being a high conscious person isn’t an achievement of any kind, it’s all about what you do, Did you help the low conscious person? Did you advise or guide him? No, so you aren’t any higher than him and you both could be at the same state anyway, but it doesn’t matter. Now you will judge my state of consciousness, man just leave people “be”

You disagree because you have not awakened high enough. This topic many people on this forum think Leo discovered something new. He didn't. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 10%3A33-34&version=NIVl Jesus himself confirmed multiple Gods. Also you are not understanding. RIGHT now you believe you are conscious right? Well within YOUR OWN MIND you right now have INFINITE SELFS. If you are not even aware that right now you have more than one self in your own mind then you are not awake. Where do you think multiple personality disorder comes from? The disorder is created by trauma where each aspect of the personality has different memory. Right now you have multiple personalities but because they share the same memory you experie cnce them as one. Again SO ABOVE SO BELOW. So yes each personality within you is you, but how they express themselves is different. Have you not noticed that sometimes you are conflicted? You are conflicted because there are different parts of yourself that sometimes disagree and you have to come to a consensus to make up your mind. If you cannot notice even this....then you are truly asleep.

society defines evil in order to keep the people in line ... if you are in line then you can see the truth of it, that evil is simply my survival bias, if you disagree with me i brand you as evil - so speaks the unawake god knows no evil since the people who commit evil have perfectly explainable reasons for doing so they have no choice but to commit evil (in fact there is no choice in anything; free will is only possible for the awakened)

What a smug and self-satisfied answer. “Men of all degrees will conceit themselves to be equal with Brahmans.” Then again, what could I except from a forum run by a guy who thinks he’s the most awakened man on the planet whilst spending most of his time chasing “pussy”! Go to hell. After all, Lucifer didn’t need tradition. Lucifer didn’t need order or truth. “Better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven!” Lucifer was a progressive just like you.

You are correct, psychic powers are actually part of God Realization because those gifts are just further proof of the interconnectedness of everything. If it wasn't for my recent near death experience where I was able to connect to this young woman's mind and have intercourse with her in my mind (What is referred to as Tantra) I wouldn't believe in any of the paranormal stuff. But me and her both experienced it and the part that completely blew my mind.....it was instinctual, and intuitive. It was like an old instinct was awakened within me. Robert Greene said he discovered in his research before humans could speak they could communicate through an increased ability of empathy. I think that "empathy" was a psychic connection. I believe humans could communicate through telepathy....and we lost that ability over millennia. But we still carry the memory of that ability within us and if your consciousness rises....it can come back to you.

@Rokazulu Good point! I have experienced the state, I just haven't been able to sustain it. I am not opposed to a more gradual process. There can a lot of joy and discovery in that process as well. It just once I awakened to realize I was imagining my limitations, lack of awareness, and these processes to awaken, I began to contemplate the possibility of a more instant shift in my state of consciousness. I agree with your point about the body being prepared to hold the energy though.

I believe he have some kind of gift that can move and do something that awakened kundalini of people in front of him. Look how his hand move. He is very grounded on what he says. Kundalini Activation:

There is no "loving state." All is Love, including hatred and fear. As I said, you haven't awakened to the truth yet, hence your confusion. Apart from that, I didn't claim "high consciousness." Be careful with the assumptions you make about other people.

Since all of the different methods we utilize to have insights and awakenings are being imagined by us to justify a shift in our state, there should be an even more direct route. We should just as easily be able to circumvent or bypass all these steps we create and just experience the shift now. We are already awakened and imagining that we aren't. Have any of you had success in bypassing any chains of causation? If so, how did you achieve it? Was is just a matter of intention, conviction and focus?

How do you really know that? Unless you can read people’s minds, or have awakened to the highest, you can’t possibly know what or who has reached the highest levels of consciousness? Even if you do awaken, you are so conscious that there are no others who are awake with you. It’s just you. What I learned here on this forum is that anyone can claim they are awake when they are really full of crap. What criteria do you use to determine if someone is awake? If you are already awake, then this question of who is most woke is absurd. Maybe so. Maybe there is music now instead of noise. I can’t imagine anyone living without thinking. I mean how does he even do math and keep track of his finances from his teachings lol. You see the issue with people who claim they have no thought but yet still go to the bank and survive? I believe no-mind can be short-term, but eventually you have to have a strategy for how your gonna get your next meal. Maybe what he really means is that his mind is playing like music instead of hammering like a monkey. He still has thoughts, but his thoughts are more deliberate and if higher quality. I would even consider talking to be a form of thought and even action if we wanna go deep with where your thought ends and action begins. Where is the boundary? To have no thought is death. That actually is one of the examples I listed in my journal that illustrates my point. If you had no desire, there would be no point in breathing. Why breathe? You both conscious and unconsciously will to breathe. Like I said in my first post. Our desires can be conscious or unconscious. Why breathe? Why do our cells bother to preserve our body and immune system? Why do we eat? Why meditate? It is our desire for life. If you hold your breath, you will feel your desire for life. If you didn’t desire life, then you wouldn’t breathe and live. How do we know? We put these gurus on pedestals and idolize them. And at the same time, that idolization blocks you from realizing that they are you. What’s the name of the book? Thank you for helping me clarify my points in my contemplation on desire.

@Jowblob Even if she gave you a blowjob after her "moan", it still wouldn't be awakening. You have a large ego and I understand that you want to satisfy it by thinking of yourself as "awakened" but you simply aren't. Everything you wrote above is a testimony of narcissism and egotism, which has nothing to do with God. Grow up!

You're projecting hard my friend, you don't need to tell me that it sounds narcissistic when i'm more then aware of every behaviour i display consciously. There is also nothing wrong with people that are being narcissistic consciously, in fact its very important for your health. Who are you to claim or assume that i don't know what God is or if i'm awakened or not when you don't even know me? It's not even important to me how people view me or see me, whats important to me is that people are acting out unconsciously without thinking about their own behaviour they display. Learn to be accepting of others peoples experiences without projecting your own views from your own perspectives and standards. Like @Arthogaan@Fernanda

@Jowblob Although your writing was interesting to read, I have to interrupt you for a second. Apart from your egocentric views and perhaps even narcissism, (and I am not the only person here who will tell you that, think about it!) nothing what you wrote above has even the slightest thing to to with awakening. You have no idea what God is, and you have not awakened. Stop conflating relative experiences with awakening.

@Maka @Batman Wheter he makes someone moan by talking with him or not is irrelevant for his awakening. But the fact is for some people with psychic talent weird shit starts to happen when they awaken. So it is ignorant for you to assume wheter he is awakened or not by his external world story. Because awakening is felt inside. And you don't know his direct experience. So it would be cool to raise your openmindedness for a newcomer of the forum and do not assume he is lying when you simply do not know.

From your story, it is clear you haven't awakened. Awakening is a lot simpler and deeper than all your stories. Ayahuasca will take you on a ride, but there is no guarantee you will awaken on it.

It was exactly what I needed and I found Leo’s videos in 8th grade right when I first stated to become existential, Although I was watching all of the practical meditation videos so really that no bullshit guide to meditation and all of Leo’s meditation practice videos in like 2017 and earlier mostly lead me running in circles, Now Leo has a much more nuanced and god awakened idea of meditation, Not like sit down rigorous meditation, I mean you can do it but it’s not necessary, Anyways it really just depends on how deep you are willing to go, I was able to handle quite a bit even as my identity would begin to crumble I was able to have cessation experiences as early as 14 years old but I have always been openminded to the paranormal and I have been astral projecting and having higher consciousness experiences and awakenings even since I was a really young child so I have felt these state changes before and have been pretty successful at manipulating my altered states, I am 18 now btw

That's not a bad range, I would say 30-36. Of course, there are some very mature kids. I was a camp counselor once and one of my kids was an extremely mature 9 year old. I think he went on to be very successful on Wall Street. That's rare, of course, but there are people like that of all ages. The problem with being too young and immature and becoming awakened is that...you're still young and immature...and now you may think you're somehow more advanced or better than your elders. But you're still young and immature. Being spiritually awakened hasn't granted you life experience/wisdom or domain knowledge of all kinds. So it's possible for the prematurely awakened to be super-obnoxious, or maybe more socially isolated than they would have been otherwise. The no-self awakening is just the first step on the road to Self Realization, and it's a particularly tricky stage to navigate (it's where a lot of Zen Devils are.) Mix that with youth and you could easily have a juvenile delinquent if the personality is otherwise disordered.

For y'all awakened folk. What age did you have your first awakening? I.e the first time you realized that God actually exists or your first mystical experience. Also, for those who have realized they are God. What age would you recommend awakening for the general consensus? As in God Realization or the no self awakening. My opinion is 28-35 from my own experience.

Love is absolute truth. Obviously a monkey and a giraffe can not grasp it. Absolute truth has nothing to do with 5-Meo, with DMT or with other psychoactive drugs. These things are imaginary. You have not awakened yet. No-Self is just a minor part of absolute Truth.

You simply have not awakened to absolute Truth yet.

You mentioned neale Donald walsch, so I’d like to add in one of his newer books he said “the awakened species would never kill another not even out self defense, and would not be violent, unless asked to by another being” humanity still has a long way to go, we kill animals like it’s nothing and then keep dogs and cats as pets, it’s really messed up.

Are you kidding? I've been contemplating existence since age 4. I am Awakened. I don't think anyone in the State of Maine has my level of consciousness..so of course I was expecting something...way more than some one who's asleep anyway. If you order from Houston Research Chemicals make sure it's not the Dummy fraudsters.

Hi All, First up, I'm not trying to tell you what you shouldn't do, all I want to do is post a warning based on my experience with Holotropic/Shamanic Breathing. I hope that you take heed of this advice and don't go through the intense involuntary healing that I have been through in the last 3 years. I had a strong desire for the spiritual path and had been meditating for 4 years, sometimes up to 4 hours per day but normally at least 1.5 hours. I felt pretty good and had no existing psychiatric issues (that I was aware of.....) In early 2019, I felt I was ready to speed up the process as I wanted to progress spiritually and felt like I wasn't getting anywhere. So I started Shamanic/Holotropic/Breath of Fire (It has many names). I started on 2 minutes and gradually worked up to 30 to 40 minutes per day over the course of many months. I was still meditating but not for as long as I had been. Everything was fine for many weeks without issues. I felt good and felt normal both physical and mentally. Then, one week I started to feel off, it is hard to describe but I just didn't feel right. Felt really tired and unhappy (I am normally a care free happy person). I immediately stopped the breathwork but continued to meditate. About 1 week after I stopped the breathing practices completely I was still feeling tired and just not right mentally. Then one day I was sitting is lotus posture and I suddenly felt really anxious for no reason and this incredibly uncomfortable energy started surging through me. I did not know at the time it was energy as I had never really felt it before but it was really uncomfortable. I couldn't sit still and I felt really anxious from the excess energy. I had no idea what was going on and ended up in hospital, I started screaming in hospital for no reason and almost had to be sedated (I am normally never like this, normally one of the most chilled out people around me). Anyway I was released a few hours later when the energy calmed down a bit. For the next 6 months this energy was with me all day everyday (even though I ceased all spiritual practices). I had trouble sleeping (I normally sleep like a baby). I felt extremely fatigued (I thought I had chronic fatigue) and could hardly get out of bed for weeks. I was close to panic attacks all the time. I was so scared and had no idea what was going on. I had to quit my job as I couldn't really function. Luckily I was financially prepared for this. It was only after I reached out to three meditation teachers who could "read my energy" were they able to advise I had awakened Kundalini. Kundalini was moving through my physical and subtle body cleaning out past traumas. Boy was it hard. You don't realize what lies in your subconscious until you open it haha. I then had a relatively stable period of 12 months with no symptoms and felt pretty good. I thought Kundalini had become dormant but now I know she was still active in the background. I then started doing something similar to straw breathing just to try and calm my system. I felt great for a few months. But then boom without any warning again I went from feeling great to these massive surges of energy running through me that still haven't really integrated fully with my system even after 7 months of no spiritual exercises. The negative impacts of my healing have been the following: - Intense suicidal depression (Never really been depressed at all in my life until I awoke Kundalini). Almost ended up in a psych ward a couple of times. The only things. Mostly when the energy surges were moving through my chest and heart area. - Intense ADHD, couldn't sit still almost all day for many months. (Never had ADHD before, I am normally more sloth like haha) - Intense sensitivity to people, unable to be around some people. - Intense weird mental states, hard to describe but they aren't very comfortable. - Insomnia. This was really bad in the first healing period but not so much the second, still not sleeping as much as I need to but it has improved. - Intense sensitivity to fasting and certain supplements. Fasting and magnesium amplifies the energy and it feels very uncomfortable. Positive impacts (a lot less than the negative ones so far.....) - When I close my eyes my body mostly disappears. I don't feel it at all the only thing I feel is the energy moving against blockages. - Body gradually feeling less and less like "me". A little bit scary. - Can feel expansion of aura around me. - Small periods of intense bliss. This can almost be a negative impact if too intense. - Small periods of seeing intense beauty in even the most simple things. - Heightened intuition. - Synchronicities at times. Not all the time but occasionally. - One 5 minute period where all my thoughts just stopped. My head was clear, this was very cool. Only had it once though. - Greater understanding of subtle energy in general. The two laws that you must always apply for safe use of it. I sought help from a few teachers, tried a few practices to help calm the energy and ground me but in the end the main thing is time as the energy integrates with your body and mind, this can only happen so fast and takes time. Acupressure helped a bit and also something called White Light Protection Visualization which you can find on the Kundalini subreddit. One respected Kundalini teacher had me try all sorts of herbs and exercises that seemed to do nothing or make it worse. So I have come to the conclusion that very few people actually are able to teach this sort of stuff if you have a spontaneous K awakening. I share this in the hopes that others healing journeys won't be so intense and involuntary as mine. I also want to thank all those have helped me in this journey so far, those seen and those unseen. Especially for helping me to keep my second job and family. Good links: https://www.reddit.com/r/kundalini/ - IMO the White Light Protection visualization should be done by everyone everyday. https://www.taraspringett.com/kundalini/healing-kundalini-symptoms-book/ - Some good info in this book. TLDR: Shamanic/Holotropic Breathing awakened my Kundalini without warning and gave me what is called Kundalini syndrome. I went through hell on earth as I was healing for the next 6 months then I went through A relatively stable period of 12 months and then the last 7 months have been by far the most difficult. Still healing from my past at a rate that is far from comfortable.