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Basically all metaphysical questions of this kind -- e.g. about reincarnation, about the relationship of God to mortals, of the "I" to other individuals, etc. -- are all born out of the sense of separation, and the mental categories that come out of that sense of separation. But that sense of separation is not true. Therefore the mental categories that come out of it are not true. Therefore the questions that are based on those categories are not true. But of course this is just putting the matter in words -- and so this way of saying it is also, strictly speaking, not true.

@1liamo78 Reincarnation is originally a Hindu and a Buddhist belief. There was no world population back then. To me, it seems so silly. Nevertheless, that's not what is meant by reincarnation. You're treating the "soul" that is being reincarnated as a separate entity, while in their paradigm it's one and it's everywhere and everyone all at the same time. Which honestly, to me, is even more silly. But who knows? I could be wrong.

Thanks... Guess I won't count reincarnation out then. And I'm perfectly fine with not understanding it ?

@seeking_brilliance you can be enlightened tho. Just don't claim you have no self while talking and walking like a self, interacting with other selves And yes. There is a "level" of consciousness from which reincarnation can be understood and explained. What would others take away from it is another story. Not relevant now. The shift would be too much for my mind and body. Riding smaller waves atm.

@ivankiss don't worry... I don't want to be enlightened... I don't even know what that means. And I definitely don't care when this human body dies. The body just hopes it won't be painful ?But you are saying that an enlightened fellow understands reincarnation?

@ivankiss who gets reincarnated as a fish? Or is this just sarcasm? Serious question now... Because lots of people talk about reincarnation and I used to buy into that, but I don't understand how an illusion pretending to be human can be reincarnated as something else.

A small list of metaphysical post survival / non-survival ideas. Accessing state-stages Accessing subtle,causal,non-dual realms Cleaning chakras (Cultivating a mind-body relationship) Not informing oneself about post survival stuff Accepting reincarnation theories (nirvana/samsara) Accepting content of dreams Considering sidhis Pursuing enlightenment Neglecting enlightenment Jhanas or states of high concentration/forms of absorptions IIRC Psychedelics

the Thing actually was our personality is just an illusion. That illusion is the boarder between you an me, character between dreams. In order to be me, I should forget to be anyone else or something else. Hitting from the point of view of reincarnation, you have been reincarnated for the infinite times. But hey, we can never understand Reincarnation because it is directly point to no-self.

In the book "More than a life" it is written how Sadhguru's past life version of him consciously planned to return back as a human being to complete his mission. Eventhough he didn't do it to prove reincarnation it seems like its possible if its true. I guess returning to complete a mission is a better reason than to prove a point about reincarnation itself. I also saw in a video eventhough I am not sure if it's authentic, that he had planned it precisely to the very womb to which he will be born in his current life so that his mission could be completed

Seems like it. Tons of people report having done so. Actually the "soul" is guiding your whole life. If you want to think of it that way. It is your highest self. It's the thing which compels you to pursue spirituality and reunite with God. Without that you'd never awaken. Which is why most people never awaken: their souls are too crude and unevolved. At least that's the theory if you want to buy into reincarnation. One of the most compelling reasons for buying into reincarnation is that it explains why people have such different inclinations and attunement for spiritual work. This cannot be explained through genetics or upbringing alone. It's obvious that some people are MUCH more spiritually attuned than others from birth. The best explanation for this is past lives. The souls of the majority of mankind are quiet crude. Which explains why mankind is in such a big mess. We are NOT all the same. If you've ever wondered why you don't fit in and how other people could be so dull, materialistic, and shallow, well, here's your answer. Most folks need to live through many more lifetimes before they learn their lesson. One lifetime is just not enough. Consider the possibility that the reason you're able to do this work at all is because you've already lived through 300 lifetimes of total barbarism and stupidity. Imagine if you were Stalin in a past life. LOL.

Except there is a common through-line between dreams. Your psyche is uniquely your psyche. Dreams ARE connected to your psyche. You often have repeating dreams and you dream about stuff which is related to your life experiences, although often in very loose ways. You work stuff out in your dreams. This is actually directly analogous to how reincarnation could work. There is a deeper structure which unifies all your lifetimes. This structure would be called the soul. It is like the mothership which sends down many probes to a new planet. Destruction of any probe does not harm the mothership. The mothership collects all the lessons of each dead probe and visits many different planets. The mothership itself could of course also be destroyed but that's another matter. The mothership is far more conscious and capable than any of its probes.

I left a note which I recently found. It said, “there’s no reincarnation”. Not sure what to make of it.

The problem with the "leaving a note" approach is that if you die and you have a choice to reincarnate as whatever you want, your perspective will be so much broader at that point after death that you will not care about honoring any note you left behind. You might reincarnate on some other planet in some other universe as some non-human being. Reincarnating just for the sake of demonstrating reincarnation to other humans is a really silly game. That is not the purpose of reincarnation.

@Bufo Alvarius If there is infinity, it must be you. Infinity = Being. It is not ‘some number of times’, etc. It’s you, God, now. All the reincarnation, etc, etc, is just abstraction.

@Nahm It's not obvious that it's infinite. You just imagine it to be. You are not me, and I am not you. How's that for an objection? You are limited to your perception, which is you. And I am limited to my perception, which is me. Plus, all the stories about reincarnation, blah blah blah, are added on top of that fantasy of infinity.

Goovy! It's not that the machine elves are playing your life though. They would not interfere with a human's free will. That would be improper for a highly conscious being to do, defeating the whole purpose of incarnation. Also, reincarnation is more complex than simply becoming a machine elf. Free will would also be exercised in the reincarnation process. Think of it more like this: You are deciding who you want to be based on what you need to further evolve your consciousness. Becoming a machine elf would make sense IF one has fully exhausted the lessons of being a physical entity like a human. I would guess that most humans will not become machine elves because they still have much to learn about being human.

I am terrified of endless reincarnation and how I will have to suffer through all sorts of horrors in future lifetimes. Leo one minute says that every atom and object is a perfect design and a universe in itself and then in another video says that none of it exists and it is all an illusion.

Notice the relationship between engaging in mental thought stories and the feelings experienced in the body. What is happening right Now? Here and Now - not off in la-la land of imaginative thought stories of reincarnation, nirvana and what could happen in future lives of pain and suffering. Humans seek to return home to Here and Now. It cannot be found in any other place or time. Only Here and Now.

The Dalai Lama said that there is reincarnation but it's not personal. And as I see it nirvana cannot be reached because we can never reach infinity. Time is always moving forward in a single timeline that never ends. All talks about multiple timelines, time travel, several personal lifetimes, the universe reaching an end(?) and repeating itself and so on are just New Age delusions. Yesterday will never be experienced again by anybody. Instead what will happen is that we will reach eternal life here on earth. For example Christians it seems to me often fail to recognize what the Lord's Prayer says: Thy kingdom come ON EARTH as it is in heaven. It's symbolism for our next evolutionary stage as humanity.

Leo says that you will experience every perspective of god. Is it that when one dies he will be reincarnated? How does reincarnation work? Or is it that since time does not exist, god has already experienced everything? Thank you!

The Dalai Lama actually said something similar, that there is reincarnation but it's not personal. Something like that. And I have been thinking about several people claiming to having been the same person in the past. In theory that could be possible if they can tap into the collective memory of humanity.

@Leo Gura is it possible that someone who is deeply enlightened reincarnates into a low consciousness person, or is the level of consciousness of reincarnation always increasing?

@Serotoninluv One other thought that came up. If your mind insists engagement with the concept of solipsism, what would happen if you let go of identification and just explored it? Human minds are conditioned to think in opposites. It may think “I have to choose between solipsism or it’s opposite: not solipsism”. This puts a lot of stress on the mind and body. Such opposites are constructs of the mind. If your mind insists on conceptualizing it, you may find that aspects of solipsism have value and can be integrated with aspects of nonduality, reincarnation, the LOA etc. One could also observe the direct experience. When thoughts of solipsism arise, what is the experience? Are the thoughts related to feelings in the body? Which comes first; the thought or the feeling? Are the feelings bothersome? Curious? Could you convert an uncomfortable feeling of a solipsistic thought into a curious feeling?

There is no reincarnation.Jesus appeared right before me, He is God, Andrea is right. Ok I am done with buddhism I repented. Damn instead of becoming Heaven itself I Will go to hell and make bbq with Gautama.

Alan explained reincarnation from buddhist perspective i think. Go check out the new leo video "What is the point of life?" It can help you .