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What kind of life will I live if I dont marry, have kids? I hate God. He breaks the rule of Nature. Man should not be attracted to a man. I am becoming gay, releasing repressed emotions. I see it clearly. It is not a joke. My mind cant handle such a radical and disgusting change. I hope there is no reincarnation. I pity my parents and relatives. It will be a shock for them. There has never been a homosexual among my relatives.
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Hey @Angelite, sorry for not getting back to you sooner. Karma is usually associated with religions of the far East - Buddhism and Hinduism - and is related to the idea that an individual soul traverses various bodies until it attains wisdom/liberation. Each life is a lesson for this soul and is a consequence of how it shaped itself in (or responded to) the lives it went through. The original "seeds" of karma are created along with the universe. In various religions, this karmic process is interpreted on different levels. Some religions view it in a materialistic, objective, way. Some, on the other hand prefer more esoteric views (such as Zen Buddhism) that this is the process by which thoughts arise in consciousness. In Yoga Sutras, it is said that by mediating (satori) upon the "I", the karmic seeds are dissolved and it is possible to attain knowledge of past lives (as siddhi). My personal beliefs about reincarnation hinge upon my understanding of the relationship between intelligence and ego. Ego literally feeds off intelligence and uses it for the purpose of survival. Upon the death of the body, the soul is freed from its biological constraints and perceives the world with unparalleled clarity. The soul then chooses, selflessly, the best possible action and it may result in an incarnation in a body. Lives it lives through, apart from being a chance to act in accordance with love, are a lesson that the soul learns in each cycle. Ultimately, they result in the union with God.
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lovelytony22 replied to Buba's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Many cultures and religions believe reincarnation is real. But has that been proven with 100% facts?. Oh no, it is just a belief and so it is a choice to go along. In reality, each one of us is unique. There will never be anyone exactly like you. When a man dies, he will be waiting for the afterlife... -
silene replied to Buba's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Buba I feel for you, 14 years is such a long time to be in pain. To suppress a part of yourself and have an inner conflict about it. I'm glad to know you're getting therapy for this, and that it seems to be helping. I remember Leo talking about expressing the repressed part of ourselves in his videos - it might be the mini-series on 'How Fear Works', perhaps someone here knows. If you have inner gay feelings try to acknowledge, accept and love them, as a valid part of yourself, even if you don't go and actually have a gay relationship. It could be you are bisexual and capable of loving both men and women, but your social conditioning has caused this inner conflict. If you are bi you can still have the life of your dreams, perhaps with a woman, once you have been through the transformation of self acceptance and self love. Although I live in a country that's fairly tolerant of LGBT, not all places are, so that could be an issue too. I don't know about actual life after death, reincarnation, heaven & hell etc. I rationalise these stories as states of mind in this life, in the present moment. For example, realising that the sense of self, I, is reborn moment by moment from the energies of the mind. -
@Buba Well, those thoughts too. I was just asking if you were aware of the thoughts, and the coming & going of them. Finding out the answer on reincarnation, and moving forward from that pain, are really the same thing.
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ajasatya replied to Buba's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Buba Reincarnation is real. But nobody reincarnates. -
Matt8800 replied to Buba's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Buba People can have whatever opinions they want but Ian Stevenson's research seems to indicate reincarnation is very much a reality. Ive read Stevenson's work and the critiques of his work and I found that every single one of the critiques violated Occam's Razor. People tend to be pulled by their biases depending on the dogma of the spiritual tradition or "teacher" they follow. -
silene replied to Buba's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Buba bro, it sounds like you're in a bad place, are you asking this because you're feeling suicidal? If you are, please seek professional help urgently rather than expecting reincarnation to solve your problems. We need to start from where we're at, and make gradual steps in real life to find happiness, instead of thinking the grass is greener somewhere else. -
I hope my next reincarnation will be much better. I just want simple happiness. I dont want to be God.
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I can't sleep. I went to bed at 7 p.m. and woke up at 2 p.m. Lots of thoughts about reality, God, Christianity, Islam, reincarnation, Hermeticism and my threefold division of experience. I may have to start an insight journal soon to offload them. The social media/music detox is a success in the sense that I'm munching on Wikipedia instead .
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I'm not just new to Qran, but also to religion in the common sense in general. I was born and raised atheist. From my limited knowledge, what Christians call "the day of Resurrection" refers to Jesus' second coming during the Apocalypse (but I may be wrong in this matter). Does Qran address the Apocalypse? Who is the person that is resurrected during Qran's day of Resurrection? Does Jesus hold any special place in Islam's analogue of the Holy Trinity? Is there any analogue of it? Is Christ "Word made flesh": an incarnation of Logos that is sent by God to teach humans His ways? Alright, that's clear. How does this relate to reincarnation? Do people get reincarnated as lower forms because they have inflicted hurt on others and have not been forgiven/dealt with? That makes retribution an act of mercy because unless you give your hurt back, you are condemning your enemy to be reincarnated. When does reincarnation of an individual soul stop in Islam? Is it when the soul achieves certain purity through forgiveness ("Higher ranks")? How does forgiveness and purity relate to Jesus? Is he a special person (or God?) in this regard? This picks my interest, tell me more about it. I can see that may relate to the passage that you mentioned ("So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection"). What are these two groups? Which among Christians want to kill Jesus?
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Pudgey replied to Nate0068's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Infinity = all things and everything is possible. There is no limit or boundaries. If there is no limit, then there are an unlimited possibilites of dimensions Randomness is apart of duality, it really doesn't exist from an absolute / God perspective - since all dualities go back into non-duality Therefore, God does not randomly spawn itself into existence. It is already IS. As far as reincarnation, I'll leave that up to you to contemplate. -
SoonHei replied to Red-White-Light's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@m0hsen that's what "reincarnation" is Find out who dies n be eternally free now! -
Leo, I think your face resembles one of the famous Indian Spiritual Masters- Shri Sai Baba, in one video (if those elf ears are not there).I felt very stark resemblence. I was wondering why the face looks familiar and then I remembered Sai Baba! (His statues are in various temples and worshiped). Are you his reincarnation!?Who knows!?
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Past lives are an interesting thing because not many people have them - including people who do a lot of consciousness work. But some do, and those that do don't really describe them. It's sort of a strange concept. Why would past lives occur? Are you implying that we go through reincarnations? But if so how do you know that reincarnation exists? Well I just had an experience before going to bed. There's no real standardised way of classifying experiences, because everyone can literally call an experience whatever they want. But... After the experience, the first words, without a doubt, without any slight hesitation, was definitely "past life". What was it? Well we all have memories of our past. Some of the memories don't feel that real(can't tell whether it was a real memory or a memory from a dream) some are like that but not all. Some memories feel very real. They immerse entire consciousness, make you feel like you are literally going back in time. Almost as if it's happening right now. These real memories, make sense, they align with your ego structure, other past memories, basically all of the beliefs about your entire worldview. This memory I had just then was also very real, more real than the real memories. But strangely enough, it did not align with any other memories, my ego structure, or current beliefs. Funnily enough this experience does not directly imply reincarnations. Instead it sort of implies there are literally many lives all happening at once in the present moment. And I just got a quick view of one. But apart from that this experience did not imply that after we die we go to another life, or we have a soul or any crap you hear about past lives. In fact it was very metaphysical and not personal to me at all. Another interpretation was God's imagination had a bit of a hiccup and it made a completely unrelated event appear in consciousness. That's also what it felt like... like the world just randomly changed to a different movie for some reason lol, then went back to this one accidentally. Anyway if this is what they call past lives, this is very different to what they say.
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MrDmitriiV replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@electroBeam Since it's all One, everyone had past lives, because everyone is the same being. I like assuming that with each reincarnation we move towards a higher consciousness life. But, what if God wants to move backwards? Will I live next a more delusional/hellish life? (I'd like to reincarnate into a Harry Potter universe lol, though it has greater possibility for suffering) Another thought. Low consciousness folk might be scared during death and quickly reincarnate back into illusion. What if the goal is to reincarnate/grow until you aren't scared of your true nature anymore?! -
If the world we live in now is the real reality, then what about physical death? First we need to understand what physical reality is. The past is indestructible information in the now and only in the now. There is no past outside the present moment. So for example Elvis Presley exists as a person as information in the now. And Elvis Presley has an eternal, unique and individual soul in the form of a single point within the graph of difference. Reincarnation is as ACIM says ultimately impossible since there is only the present moment. Resurrection is theoretically possible since the individual soul is eternal and indestructible, And God is not some separate deity with free will. So Buddhism is correct about there not being a literal God as some big boss with free will but is wrong about reincarnation. And Christianity is correct about resurrection and actual miracles but wrong about there being a God able to send people to some actual hell.
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I'm not kidding, I've only just started meditation and I'm already feeling different, more productive, more self-confident, etc.❤️ I've even miraculously stopped the wine just like that, which beggars belief. Huh, and that's only with a lousy 20 minutes every day. I hate that it has taken me this late in my life to discover it. Leo's a pretty persuasive guy! Nobody (including myself) has ever been able to convince or galvanize me enough to do meditation before. I've had this book on my bookshelf eyeballing me for donkey's years: "Peace of Mind" by Dr Ian Gawler. He actually has a website and does meditation retreats. He overcame terminal cancer through meditation and wrote about it. I had read the book, as you do. And then put it back on the shelf, as you do. And then the wasted years go by, as they do. So glad I came across Leo's videos and this site. I was just innocently googling "karma's a bitch" two Sundays ago, and there was Leo. I loved his explanation straight away. It seems Karma has more to do with the ego (who sounds like the real bitch around here!) than any "carrots and sticks". The only problem now is my addiction to this site. A site with all these resources pooled together and an active forum like this just doesn't exist anywhere else, it's unique. Now I wanna know everything. I understand though the need to vary one's sources and not just fetishly stay on this one site. I started reading some of your journals @zeroISinfinity, sorry I don't "get" them much yet. I'll probably understand them better when my "colour's changed". It looks like a great and crazy party though, haha!! It's actually starting to give me a bit of FOMO. Before coming to this site, I was kinda agnostic, even if my upbringing was solid catholic. I've always been afraid of ghosts and the paranormal so was perfectly happy deciding to just believe "what you see is what you get". You just die after three score years and ten, and kaput, you are no more. No reincarnation, no after-life, no hell nor heaven, nada. I was SO happy believing that. Ignorance is bliss as they say. So as you can imagine, I'm going through a major paradigm shift at the moment, lol. But it's all good. The Real Bliss will come later. Still scared of ghosts though. My dad frightened us when we were kids, threatening to lock us in the attic with the ghosts if we were naughty. Discovered years later that's where he'd kept all his porno mags. Go figure! No wonder he'd frightened everyone away from ever snooping around up there. Still the damage had been done, the phobias created. Since I've been on this site, I've had to put the light on again when I go for a pee in the middle of the night. In case I see or bump into something scary. I'm just going at my own pace right now. Slow and steady wins the race. And starting at the bottom of the heap dealing with the "easy stuff" (the physical stuff) first. My goals are more to do with the body at the moment. And yeah, I'm getting the meditation sessions in. Am even feeling optimistic I may really get a sense of "God" one day. Ha, I'll be able to join in the same "party" then, or at least understand some of the more "cryptic" posts here better. But if I don't, no pressure, maybe in my next life haha. I don't want to spook myself out by running before I can walk. Damn, if only I hadn't put that Meditation book back on the shelf all those years ago! I'd have been way more advanced by now. So yeah, feeling really indebted to Leo for all he's done and is doing!! ❤️ I'm going to honor his generosity by doing the Work.
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Matt8800 replied to Matt8800's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Esoteric Yeah, I agree that the West's LHP goes a bit far but the RHP does also. I wouldnt throw the baby out with the bathwater. I think the answer is the middle but there needs to be an understanding of the extremes to know where the middle is. I agree with your assessment about Tantra being a balanced LHP but keep in mind that most Tantric schools believe in the eternal Atman. Regarding eternal individuation, how do you know that "you" will ever merge and not be individuated? At minimum, near death experiences seem to indicate that subjective experience continues after the body dies. If "you" dont dissolve into nothing right after physical death, when would you dissolve into nothing? Why would you think that and what do you base that on? If you investigate this, you'll find it is just unsubstantiated sectarian dogma that contradicts Ian Stevenson's studies on reincarnation and studies on NDEs. Many people discover the truth of non-duality and forget that it doesnt mean that duality does not exist in consciousness, and consciousness is eternal. I see eternal evolution like dividing distance in half an infinite amount of times - you keep getting closer and closer to merging with the ALL but not quite there. We cannot say that is "bad" unless we fully understood it. The real importance of having the correct belief is that it affects how you choose to live your life. Someone that believes they came to this life to learn and grow in ways that will affect them for eternity is going to live a very different life than someone that believes they will die and dissolve into nothing. I also agree with your assessment on Crowley. I thought he was an egomaniac that did not resonate with my values. I was never a fan. -
Danioover9000 replied to FoxFoxFox's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I have a question about reincarnation for you. I've had a few weird dreams that stuck to me since childhood and haven't change in memory at all. Is this some indication that I've once lived like this in a past life? The memory stayed exactly as it is. -
Harikrishnan replied to FoxFoxFox's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Is there reincarnation if so is it illusory self reincarnating lets say Harikrsihnan reincarnating as someone or something else or is a new illusion alltogether. -
See from those times when I did acid as a kid I figured out that it was all in my head. No duh? Seems sortof like when I realized that I didn't HAVE to get paranoid when I smoked pot. Having been a lifelong pot smoker (except when I was in one cult or another that insisted people face reality and not gum up their time tracks with LSD crystals or just plain glue out on marijuana) my jury is still out regarding substances 52 years later. Now nobody on actualized.org discusses pot and I'm not wanting discussion of pot, It's just that my best intuitive thinking is always done when I smoke it. So I'm intrigued by discussion of psychedelics and yes I wish I had some 5-MeO-DMT or something else (but not LSD bzzzzz). But I have this wonderment about what is the consciousness expansion that is enabled. Like should I maybe quick read a bunch of the books on your list first. I've read a lot of them which is maybe why It is like I am remembering most of the things I hear you discussing. These things are just plain part of my viewpoint and have been for years. Of course I was pretty busy with teaching and studying learning and brain functioning in the 80s and self development with all the Nightingale Conant CD sets in the 90s, but I stepped back from a lot of types of thinking until I dug into Sound Therapy 3 years ago. Since then it's been really interesting. Things keep UNFOLDING that have been here all along. But how did I KNOW all these years, with all that work that I was right all along? I don't know anybody remotely like me. There are 2 themes that are never far from my mind. One is autism and the other is many lives. Not reincarnation but what I used to call many past lives. Then the concept of future lives occurred which only makes sense if it's simultaneous lives. And that's the way it is. And who but God lives thousands of lives simultaneously? More than thousands. So maybe 5-MeO-DMT will clarify that for me. I'll know it in my cells. Right now I just know it in my analytical mind. Is there anybody out there that has read about simultaneous lives or experienced it? I never heard of it. And then I did hear of it from a regressionist who got really surprised by how this guy was remembering lives out of sequence. Her name is Mira Kelly. I found her right after I found Leo and right after I first thought about simultaneous lives. I'm going to listen to that video again right now. Oh! I just figured out what speaking in 2nd person voice is! It's when one is talking about oneself and they say "you" instead of "I". See I used the word "one" instead of "you". I have noticed for a long time the way people are using "I" and then they are suddenly using"you". For example, "I know that I would be in better shape if I walked as much as my friend does but you don't always do what you ought to do. See, it's a little distancing from the personal responsibility. It's really quite interesting to pay attention to. Now I need to figure out what 2nd world countries are. I said that to my husband and he said, "Greece"! I had already considered that. I'll google it.
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Are there inconsistencies between ACIM and the Law of One? Maybe not. One seeming inconsistency is that the Law of One talks about reincarnation while ACIM says that even resurrection is a rebirth of the mind, not the body; from ACIM: "Very simply, the resurrection is the overcoming or surmounting of death. It is a reawakening or a rebirth; a change of mind about the meaning of the world." And about reincarnation ACIM says: "M-24.1. In the ultimate sense, reincarnation is impossible. 2 There is no past or future, and the idea of birth into a body has no meaning either once or many times. 3 Reincarnation cannot, then, be true in any real sense. 4 Our only question should be, "Is the concept helpful?" 5 And that depends, of course, on what it is used for. 6 If it is used to strengthen the recognition of the eternal nature of life, it is helpful indeed." So even if ACIM says that reincarnation is impossible it also says that it can be a very useful concept, and that could be how the Law of One uses it. In this way, then, ACIM and the Law of One are consistent even though seemingly inconsistent.
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I don't know yet what the Law of One or ACIM say about reincarnation and resurrection, but I frankly don't care so much about what those texts say because it seems to me that fourth density and higher means that death has been transcended. The higher densities are like the different heavens in Christianity. And do people die in heaven? No, they don't. And the Pope was correct when he said something like how hell is not a place. I think it's obvious that what the Bible describes is a state of being stuck in third density forever, such as: Revelation 21:8 is about being stuck in sin forever, which can't happen since the One cannot fool itself forever (sin means missing the mark). And compare that Bible verse to the ones preceding it: Revelation 21:6-7 is about the first, second and third heaven and so on, meaning fourth, fifth and sixth density and so forth.
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SoonHei replied to SoonHei's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is the mortal dream and all the nonsense going on will keep us dreaming longer and longer. The foolishness that´s going on, the fighting, the anger, and all the nonsense going on with every day, keep us bound to this mortal dream. • In other words, when you're sleeping, you're dreaming, and dreams seem real to you, then you awaken. So it is with this world. You're dreaming the mortal dream. You think it's real. You get involved in it, and you're caught up in it, and it gets worse and worse. You just have to realize it's a dream and wake up. And what happens when you wake up? You do not find yourself in a place called heaven, in a strange land. You'll be as you are. When you awaken, you will function as you do now. Except you'll know you're playing a part. That's the only difference.The only difference between you and an awakened person is that you figure the part you're playing is real. And to an awakened person it's a play, a show, a dream. Does an awakened person take a part in the dream? He plays the part that was given to him or her. But he is always happy, always peaceful. For it's all an act on the stage. He's playing a part. So why get angry, why get upset? As you get angry and upset, you know it's a part you are playing, it's a part that you choose. To be an angry person, an upset person, as long as you know the part that you're playing is not real, it's okay to be upset, it doesn't matter. For again you know it's only a part you're playing. But when you think it's real, then you get pulled back into the mire, and you have to start all over again. In other words if you want to become free and liberated in this life, you don't have anything to do with the part, the play, the movie. It’s all good indeed. But when you get caught up in it, then you have to play the part again and again and again. It is called karma and reincarnation. As long as you feel the world is real, people are real, things are real, you have to keep playing your part over and over again. But when you get to the point where you give up, and just focus on reality. You focus on reality when you realize it's all a dream. Then you become free and liberated. So freedom and liberation, it's not something foreign. It’s not far away from you. It’s right where you are, and where you see life. That's all awakening is. So you observe the life. How do you see your life right now? If what you can say about yourself, you feel bad, you feel limited, slighted, upset, then you have to turn around by realizing that you have chosen this world of play. You have chosen this world. It’s your play, and accept it. But do not react to it. It's reaction that causes the problem. We´ll keep on dreaming until we let go. Stop fighting. Become non-attached, then we´ll awaken and be free. Robert Adams, T245: Consciousness Is The Silence
