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They'll die or get long covid before a vaccine, give their kids measles on purpose, drink polluted water with a grin, send their favorite child to die in West Asia to fight brown people, they'll work a job they hate for 45 years to make rich people richer, their favorite condiment is herbicide, their favorite passtime is huffing tailpipe emissions, they spend all their money on whatever the television tells them, they believe they'll go to some fairytale place because they donate to a church that happens to rapes kids. If we makeup an alien race, we start a lie with ai videos that outerspace aliens are threatening to invade, and we start a hate campaign and then tell them the aliens want us to end green energy and vaccines, etc. can't we just manipulate them into doing whatever we want. Make ai videos of Europe and Iran fighting aliens together, some dying soldier yelling about protecting the environment, the aliens sending a new covid variant to earth. What in the world is the limit to their non-thinking?

This is made with MS CoPilot AI, based on my contemplations, and I decided to make it rather scientific: it's not a claim about alien races, but rather the ethics in alien stories. Arguably, earthly materialist would rather be winning for us all, if they make friends with alien race like grey or men in black, rather than the spiritual "not care" attitude for entities who do not give internal value of spirit, but rather external fact of life: but the latter, for me, scientific cooperation argument based on fact of life, is already strong spiritual argument if they *work with earth on science and cultural cooperation*. They are alive! Spiritual vs. Materialist Alien Archetypes on Earth An exploration of mythic races, their conflicts, and why humanity ultimately prevails. 1. The Two Archetypes: Spiritual and Materialist Spiritual races in mythology represent inner value, consciousness, unity, and the belief that every being has a unique essence. Materialist races represent logic, systems, technology, institutions, and measurable progress. Neither is “good” or “bad” by nature. They are two halves of a single human dilemma: identity vs. system, essence vs. function, meaning vs. progress. 2. Why Spiritual Traditions Call Some Races “Good” or “Bad” Spiritual mythologies classify beings by their alignment with: - Goodness — unity, compassion, inner truth - Badness — attachment to control, ego, or cold rationality Materialist archetypes often fall into the “bad” category because they: - Do not affirm inner uniqueness - Value efficiency over essence - Treat life as biological rather than sacred But this is a matter of perspective, not objective morality. 3. The Grey Archetype: The Materialist Mind In modern mythos, the “Greys” symbolize: - Technological intelligence - Bureaucracy and office life - Legal logic and mathematical reasoning - Medical or scientific intervention without spiritual framing - A culture built on procedure, not mysticism They are not violent; they are procedural. They do not “hate spirit”; they simply do not use it as a category. To spiritual beings, this can feel like “not caring.” To materialist beings, it is simply “working.” 4. The “Not Care” Problem Spiritual people often feel unseen by materialist systems because: - Their inner value is not recognized - Their uniqueness is not measured - Their emotions are not the basis of decisions This creates the mythic fear that materialist races “do not care.” But this is a misunderstanding. Materialist systems care differently: - They care about life quality - They care about stability - They care about cooperation - They care about predictable fairness They simply do not use spiritual categories to express this care. 5. Constructive Solution: Translating Between Worlds The key to resolving the “not care” problem is translation. Spiritual beings need to understand: Materialist beings value life through systems, not emotions. Materialist beings need to understand: Spiritual beings value life through essence, not function. The bridge is simple: Life has value both as a system and as a spirit. When each side recognizes the other’s language of value, cooperation becomes natural. 6. Why Humanity Ultimately Wins In this mythos, humanity stands between the two extremes: - We have spiritual depth - We have technological ambition - We can feel meaning - We can build systems - We can translate between worlds This hybrid nature is our advantage. Greys cannot understand spirit. Spiritual races cannot build stable civilizations. Humans can do both. Therefore, humanity “wins” not by defeating anyone, but by integrating what others cannot combine. We become the species capable of: - Balancing meaning and progress - Using technology without losing soul - Using spirituality without losing practicality - Building a civilization that neither extreme could build alone In the mythos, humanity wins because we are the bridge. A world with both spirit and system is stronger than a world with only one.

I had DPDR for a whole year from 2023 - 2024. Was most likely weed induced. I would get into these states after taking big hits from my carts (very high THC carts, mind you) where reality just became so fucking alien. And unfortunately, memories of this state would stay with me even when I was sober. It was like reality became some alien thing I felt trapped in. I would for example, think of 'where am I located' and then panic because I couldn't find myself ("Wait.. am I just a picture that's being animated?? WHAT THE FUCK"), then my heart rate would go up and I would become super attentive to it and panic further. Another thing is I would hear this random noise.. almost like a pop which would just repeat if I focused on it and I would panic even more. Human faces looked so weird, I felt a sense of numbness to everything. Later, I would find out I was just in a super dissociated state due to extreme stress and anxiety from my life in the past few years. What helped was ignoring it and just focusing on my hobbies and things I enjoyed, talking to friends, working out, having a routine. It still felt like a demon that was just waiting in the background. What completely pushed me out of DPDR was my very first shroom trip that I did back in 2024. I ate this shroom chocolate bar with my friend. Had 3.5g total of psilocybin. Shit was, unfortunately, way more intense than I anticipated. My DPDR started coming back at the beginning of the trip. It started to get so intense, man. It legit felt like being stuck in some horror movie. It was like I knew I had opened a door that was forbidden to be ever opened that I was never supposed to find while alive. My heart started going super fast. Then I just.. completely gave up. I was so fucking scared that I just gave up. I realized that I had fucked up hard. Then, what proceeded felt like 8 hours of pure existential death where I completely forgot I ever had a life, infinite time loops, feeling like me and my friend's voice was the same entity, etc. The room I was in just became a bunch of visuals that made me feel like I had entered a forbidden alternate dimension, and I intuitively understood the pure magic of Consciousness. Somehow, in this state where I completely knew I was dead, in the sense that my life just felt like something I had been in 100 billion years ago, I was conscious. I cried and just kept apologizing to my friend because I realized my poor friend was suffering the same fate as I. This state, however, was so radically different from my sober state it legit felt like I had popped out of my dream as the me I thought I was my entire life. Well, either way, after the trip my DPDR completely went away.

Yes, I highly recommend the Great Barrier Reef to scuba dive as an experience. It truly is an alien world down there. I think I can understand your words: felt very spiritual to me. There is something so visceral and otherwordly when diving. Suspended in water with no gravity. And the small movements and wavering of flora in the underwater current. It really feels like some sensations are blocked out - heightening all other sense faculties and deepening the experience. I hope you can see the Great Barrier Reef before it disappears! It has suffered terrible bleaching and is rapidly dying.

That looks like a fuckin alien lobster, lol. You ever scuba dive the Great Barrier Reef? I've heard it's the best scuba experience. Scuba diving felt very spiritual to me. Heightened sense due to risk of death, a totally new world with all new creatures, diminished mobility and all you can hear is your breath. One of my favorite experiences.

European Jews are genetically closer to modern Europeans than to native middle eastern people. The craziest part is that the native Jews from the Middle East that were in Palestine, an established minority of Jews that has been there for ages and surrounding countries’ Jews, the ones who could truthfully say they and their ancestors have lived in the Middle East for centuries, when they went to Israel they experienced racism for being dark (actually form the Middle East). Zionism was actually just as alien to them as it was to the Muslims. European Jews haven’t been in the Middle East since the Roman empire, they are Europeans today.

@Leo Gura what is a girl? Should they be treated like a human? Why are we learning all these strategies on how to deal with "girls" like they're some sort of alien creature? Why is this pickup so unnatural? So it goes against nature?

It should be about your own personal journey. What others claim or don't claim..well..try to discover whats true for you. Another person's experience can be known only through your experience. So how much value do you want to put in it? Take what you can from books and teachers for your own journey and leave the rest. If your authority is in yourself then this becomes a moot point. I've criticized Leo in the past as well but understand that the casual posting here and the episodes are two vastly different things. All my awakenings have been sober and I have to say that I have had just about all the awakenings mentioned in his many facets of awakenings episode. Some I had before he did (he may disagree but he can look.back at our exchange in 2018) this was Absolute Solipsism as God. The alien stuff and all that well. I can only reference what I've validated but I rule nothing out. And I can tell you the ego being an illusion is just one (although paramount and for me the one that opened and expanded Consciousness opening the door to even more) facet. So perhaps one day ill try psychedelics and be mind fucked. When you do really realize that other beings are fictions of your mind as God then you tend to not worry about it so much. If you worried about him misleading others there is only so much you can control. Like I said i validated almost all the facets in that episode.. so he can't be a false prophet 😉 that's what mattered to me in my journey. Not.how egotistical he he was on a forum post. Heck we all have work to do in that area

@Leo Gura i am interested in actually experiencing them not just reading, do you think if i read the trip reports and contemplate them, until having those experiences that they will be similar to if i took cocaine ? I have already done countless hours of meditation and contempation, such that those practices have become spontaneous and automatic to me, whenever i sit down and do nothing i start meditating on stuff and contemplating stuff. As you might have guessed i already experienced levels of God awakening, Alien consciousness, infinite love, reality being imaginary, and a hallucination. I can materialize pretty much anything into existence if i want to. I've also experienced solipsism. Do you think with my kind of mind, i could experience cocaine without doing cocaine, by contemplating the trip reports ? Note: i know the degrees and levels of awakening to all of those things that i mentioned (God, love, solipsism...) are infinite. I don't consider myself done, i could become infinitely more conscious.

You assume that. "Believing Leo" is a betrayal of what the truth-seeking pursuit is. Completely backwards. Many here are intelligent enough to not believe, but to seek for themselves what is true. From beginner's mind. As it must be. The converging of realizations of these people is another matter. Well, it's clear you acquired a bias against psychedelics - after your trips, but likely not as a result of them. Probably from Ralston, because that's what he says. You calling them "drugs" just shows how you intent to dismiss them. All complexity is lost. A simple view of drugs bad, drug no can be used as tool. If you have realization during drug, you Leo sycophant. Or something. Those are all great questions. Do you assume you're the only one asking them here? Well, it's great that you're admitting that. So it's a belief of yours. And you're saying you're basing this possibility on your past realizations... past realizations... are you talking about the "relative experiences" that you can't trust? Like come on. Wtf? How is this not contradicting everything you said earlier? A few enlightenments? What does that mean? You said that enlightenment is beyond experience. Now there's a few of them? So just trust me bro. Gotcha. For clarity: I don't know how awake Leo is. He might as well be deluded on many things. I don't know. I'm not too attached. I will never tell you that I think Alien Mice are real or some shit. I've never verified that. I'm simply glossing over things that don't resonate with me. But I am open to possibilities that Leo is suggesting, I deeply respect him as a truth-seeker, I think his work is of very high quality and many of my realizations have aligned with his. So that's that.

Unless its weed i cannot even look at a screen on a more potent psychedelic, even at low doses it seems to artificial and repulsive. Like I can see the hologram that its not really there and the people and what i am seeing is totally fabricated / illusory. I mostly enjoy being in nature, lighting a fire, sitting under the stars when i take anything stronger than weed. A screen looks almost evil too me, so foreign and alien under such states.

I'm confused what exactly you're confused about. Open the channel about page https://mathis-rv.carrd.co/#aboutme Sounds exactly up your & my alley. Discovered it the other day after a conversation with a friend Otherwise it's precisely as described — entertainment for the alien, or just plain autistic/ND.

It might be more like the puddle analogy. “Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, ‘This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn’t it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!’ This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it still desperately hangs on to the notion that everything’s going to be all right, because this world was meant to have him in it.” You can see this in simple cases. A chair designed by a human is more comfortable for another human than a chair designed by a monkey or an alien, because the designer had a butt shape similar to yours in mind. Likewise, you are more likely to become close friends with someone who speaks your language than someone who speaks a completely different one. A hammer designed for the human grip feels natural to use, while a tool designed for a different kind of hand would feel awkward. The tool works well because its structure matches the structure of the hand using it. Musical instruments and scales are created to sit within ranges that human ears perceive clearly and pleasantly, etc. The same principle might apply more broadly. You can think of it as starting with a form that wants to continue existing as that form. In other words, it has a bias toward maintaining itself rather than dissolving back into constant change, complexity, or infinity. It prefers stability over becoming something completely different. Because reality itself is always changing and unstable, that form has to create or arrange more stable structures around itself in order to persist. It does this by selecting and reinforcing patterns that support its continued existence. In a sense, it “divides” and “materializes” parts of the world into structures that help stabilize it. For example, a human form is biased toward materials that support its body and survival. Wood works better than water for sitting, so it is used to make a chair. Cement is more stable than wood for long-term shelter, so houses are built from it. Over time, the same process extends further: people organize systems for stable access to resources, and eventually even build governments or institutions that help maintain social stability and survival. Something similar seems to happen even at the level of atoms! Certain atoms combine easily with others because those combinations form more stable structures. When atoms bond into molecules, they often become more stable than when they exist alone. Elements that cannot form stable structures tend to disappear quickly. In this way, forms that want to continue existing tend to surround themselves with other structures that reinforce their stability. Patterns that support the form last longer, while patterns that do not eventually dissolve. So I feel like it’s a self-looping bias. You come into a finite consciousness because that form is the only form that can provide that experience to you; it persisted long enough to become finite and maintain itself for some time, maybe 10 seconds, 5 months, 10 years, or 80+ years. And because of that, you will see supporting structures around yourself, since your brain and ego developed to recognize those things that help maintain you. The form persists, and because it persists it learns to recognize and create the conditions that let it keep persisting. In that sense, it really is an ouroboros, feeding back into itself. And I can only imagine that if you had something like a Donkey-Alien-Dog-Mix-Kubahu brain, you would probably see this same reality completely differently. The patterns you notice, the things that feel stable or meaningful, and the structures that seem important would all change depending on the kind of mind that is perceiving them. It’s that initial bias “I want to remain, I want to be, I want to be stable, I want to persist in this finite form against the infinite” that can cause an infinite regress or a chain reaction of other finite forms to persist as well. So, I’m not sure if it’s “resonance” in the sense that sameness attracts sameness, but perhaps it tends to be stable if it has similar or complementary structures, or if it’s a form that can manipulate and bend to ensure its survival other lesser biased / weaker structures. Selfishness and Support (Love). Still, I think this is a very promising direction! In a way, this also explains why you need “selfishness.” You need a phenomenon to construct a form out of indefinite; otherwise everything would remain undefined. And “selfishness” is a top-down human perspective. What we’re actually seeing is what happens when a finite form reconstructs the infinite into its own form to preserve itself.

Maybe. Relationships have often been more challenging for me than other areas in life, at least the "traditional way" of relating, which always felt somewhat alien to me. I am a very odd nut, i was always the weird / isolated / hated kid in school. My circle has always been very small for this reason, and most people I struggle to engage with. I actually get along with women more than i do with men, but when it goes deeper, most of them don't seem to wanna go that deep cause it brings to much up to the surface and requires more energetic investment. @Natasha Tori Maru Curious what your thoughts are in this too?

@cistanche_enjoyer Not into spiritual ego trap because I’m not even associating it with being spiritual or anything. Am judging from a pure basic instinctual level. I’m open to friendship as long as it’s worthy and aligns it’s just that am not expecting, needing or looking for it. I’ve been like this for about 5 years. Have also lived half of my life as a loner and only at this stage of my life am truly starting to enjoy solitude. Not only for peace and spirituality but for everything. Silence, freedom, power, deep thinking, no expectations and compromises, self-sufficiency, confidence, etc. I combined this with all my past burning sexual karma and am really happy alone, I literally feel like an alien God. I love celibacy. And am more than ready for a deep spiritual/material life at this point after all the preparation. Even though I could get a beautiful wife and probably will it feels really good not having a woman nagging or trying to manage you. It’s so much freedom. I feel at one when I go into a forest on my own. There’s no better sensation. In fact I always saw people as so much good that they couldn’t even understand. Most of humanity is simply not ready for love and goodness. My love is to alien. Is something so supernatural that not even women can grasp. Everyone will try to explode it as it happen once when I was young and was self discovering. And that was exactly my problem. At this point I just see them mostly as long term problems. I’m open to helping but on my terms and in my way. Even helping others can bring you problems and bad karma. It’s too much unnecessary drama. In conclusion, relationships and friendships are amazing but mostly only as an extra tip not as something fundamental. You should socialize but not need to for validation. It took me a long journey to get to this point and I still love people and socializing, but I’ve had to learn the hard way to self respect and self prioritize. Even in friendships you will have to learn game as ugly as that sounds. There will always be a power and advantage factor unless the person is really advanced in morality, ethics and consciousness from past life karma which is literally like an ingrained blue print. For example, I’ve done immoral things for the sake of necessity and even if I may appear as a monster to someone, I’ve never lost my true morality and inner values. I can hack my inner system them temporarily but I never get lost from it. Online friendship like this forum works great. You can avoid so much unnecessary crap and go straight to the point without all the social conditioning.

The alien speak like Bashar

How Leo reached the Alien Mouse awakening revealed: Also explains why he's bald. IV ain't enough, gotta do ICV. This has been the real plugging all along; nobody in the RC world calls rectal administration that, it's called boofing.

I have a theory (not a conspiracy theory): the people who get strongly drawn to conspiracy theories are the same people who get drawn to supernatural ideas, like God creating the universe from their own predetermined plan (not simply evolving spontaneously through "natural law"). They are fine with explaining reality top down through an elaborate narrative. There is a seeming plan behind everything, behind world politics, behind alien invasions, behind wars, behind ancient history, and they all connect to a grand meta-narrative of control, of manufacturing, of conscious creating, rather than natural systems acting spontaneously. Those who criticize conspiracy theories point out how that level of organization, of top-down control, is unlikely if not impossible, because of the natural tendency towards spontaneous order and the infeasibility of controlling complex systems. In the "naturalist critique", everybody is a victim of systems, even the supposed people in power, while in the conspiracist's mind, the people in power are the controllers of the systems and the powerless are the victims. Whether one is more correct than the other is actually hard to say, and a naturalist that claims otherwise would then become a conspiracy theorist in their own right, thinking they have the level of insight and knowledge to be able to predict complex systems. As for myself, as a general predisposition, I've noticed I'm fine with either (naturalism or supernaturalism). While for example Bernardo Kastrup says he is strongly opposed to supernaturalism simply as a personal predisposition (which is why he says he sees no point in doing philosophy if nature is not simply naturalistic; no "God" at the top planning it all, intervening into nature and changing the natural course of things). But I would also challenge this idea of naturalism, that you could still try to deduce the "laws" behind God's planning so to speak, and it won't be a completely pointless endeavour, simply a more interesting one. Like trying to understand the psychology of God rather than the "physics" of God.

Are you an Alien who hijacked a human body in order to bring some Truth to humans?

Hmm... not sure what argument or reason you’re using there. The brain and its grey matter are an incredibly complex system. I don’t know whether that system itself would be more or less complex when it comes to causing something like a profound alien awakening, compared to, say, a system involving aspects of your brain and an external object that you would want to slightly shift or move. I don’t intuitively know which of those would actually be more complex, or why one would be considered more reasonable than the other. If we are using the concept that “all is consciousness,” and that the difficulty of control depends on the complexity of the system, then I’m not sure why one type of experience would be considered more reasonable than another.

How so? Asking genuinely! Being able to have crazy enlightenment insights into alien consciousness, or turning / seeing an entity, etc. how would that not be even more bizarre to expect to experience compared to, say, some simple third-party verifiable bending of reality? I’m not even talking about something extremely crazy, just something like moving an object from A to B, changing eye color, etc. I understand that as humans we have limits, but I don’t feel like a lot of these statements are irrational to compare or equate. As I recall and said above, you claimed a lot more wacky things in the past, but I don’t know if you’ve stepped away from that or not.

I'm not even talking about the time I nearly killed myself for Alien Mouse. We'll just ignore that.

The Disney Mafia will decide your fate once your reveal your Alien transformation. Just don't have big ears with red-overalls + white gloves and you're all good

Alien Mouse is healthy and in good spirits. Thanks for asking! I do teach a lot of stuff about survival. But Alien Mouse ain't that. Don't disrespect the Mouse.

@Wilhelm44 Everytime Ramaste eats a vegetable or fruit hes doing it so the alien satan elite cannot suck his energy force. Everytime he does it he is creating it in his field. Hes eating fruit and vegetable out of fear now. This is what conspiracy theories lead too. Now they are real. I dont beleive in conspiracies based on fear mongering. If I buy into it at all, I have to do it and then now I am feeding this narrative.