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What you're saying doesn't make much sense. Reincarnation is not something that exists in the direct experience, unless you are just redefining words ant not explaining them.

I understand that direct experience is the only thing we know is real, whether it's a delusion or not, direct experience by definition is true. This doesn't explain how you were able to experience reincarnation. It's an idea that requires you to think about concepts like the past/future, death/birth, etc. How can you say that you can only trust direct experience while simultaneously believing stuff like reincarnation?

According to most traditions it continues to experience manifestetion by reincarnation or as a disembodied being. I haven't confirmed that by direct experience though so I wouldn't argue too much on that.

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This is my third week popping in and out of this forum and I notice a bit of talk about psychedelics around here. Lately I have been wondering if I should try mushrooms. My concern is that from 2009-2018 I struggled with a lot of paranoia and I don’t want to induce that state of mind unprepared. I was diagnosed bipolar, but most of my close friends feel I was misdiagnosed, and instead thought my issue has more to do schizophrenia. I don’t hear voices, I have not seen things that are not there, but when I get hyper manic I get delusional about my beliefs. Basically in a manic state I start to think I am not safe and I run and hide wherever my intuition takes me. I get grandiose thoughts and feel extremely connected to the Universe. My greatest fear is to be emotionally, and physically tortured by a group of unfeeling, unaware, individuals. From age 0-33 I had normal fears. I was naive, oblivious, and ignorantly tucked safely into my religous beliefs. I then started to interact with people online and that journey changed who I thought I was and what I thought I believe. I had a totaly mental breakdown in 2009. My personality changed from being a bubbly, happy, gabby, unware person (who thought she was ALWAYS safe ) to a very quiet aware person who’d become deeply depressed, afraid, lost, and sad about not feeling safe any longer. I read a lot of NDE’s to help me find hope again in something that may reflect unconditional Love. It gave me comfort for a couple years. I am now starting to learn about reincarnation and karma. I have read some books from Doloras Cannon, some of A Course In Miracles, and other books from new age authors. I have no idea what to belief. It’s all very overwhelming. I do know kindness is really important to me. For the last year, or so, I have been working on my health, having balance and avoiding my triggers. I’ve been medication-free (Abilify) for six months (yes, my doctor knows). I’ve only had a few minor manias after going through some really stressful circumstances. I mostly avoid drama whenever possible, and I understand how to set healthy boundaries. Anytime I start to feel obsessed over something that is my cue to put it down. So, for you more experienced psychedlic users out there, based off this short history would trying a psychedelic be a bad idea for me?? And because I accidently pasted this YouTube Vid here and have no idea how to delete it, I hope you enjoy its message if it happens to catch your interest.

Yes it makes sense. I have been wondering for so long as well.God is not a person, a being but a beingness. In my highest states i just was,there was no wondering am i alone,am i this or that. It was only ecstasy and then after coming back the ego invents stories like solipsism,loneliness as god etc. But these stories are lies. To be alone one has to say i am alone.Even loneliness is just a thought, an experience if you would conceptualize it as such. It is only possible with a separate self. That unity that oneness, beingness,awareness doesn't experience,loneliness,fear,anxiety.That happens through the separate self.You see every time i fully dissolve I'm gone dead nada. Aware of nothing, beyond the ecstasy and love lies a nothingness,an existence without an observer. Therefore an observer always get created for there to be an experience aka the separate self. Tbh i don't believe anyone can escape samsara or reincarnation.There is no one to escape,you are forever experiencing yourself from different viewpoints. Otherwise you wouldn't exist and as Leo said thats impossible. A tautology,god is eternal. Infinity is eternal. Your view of life is an integral part of the infinite viewpoints of god. It also makes sense from buddhism's perspective. Enlightened masters are not going mad shivering in fear and loneliness. They are some of the most chill and happy beings alive.If it was a mental hellhole no one would advocate for enlightment at all. I would think psychedelics are responsible for the bad experiences concerning enlightment. Everyone gets a different experience when dissolving the ego mind while on them. Its particularly tailored to their body-mind and adapts to them. There are as many roads to god on psychedelics as there are people. Psychedelics also make you face your demons and fears. They even have the power to convince you that these things are real.You could hallucinate many crazy things.There was a guy on LSD that hallucinated his whole arm being made from knives. Each finger a knife on it's own.Pictures start moving,inanimate objects become alive.I mean we are melting our mind to get to god. Who said this was safe lol ;D. And i'm not judging on these substances but damm,they sure are a crazy tool. I'm speaking from experience.. On the other hand meditation seems to be a more calm generic way to reaching the divine. Monks and meditators don't go around forums yelling oh my god i had a bad trip,i had existential terror,help solipsism etc.It sounds funny when i say it like this even though i went through it as well hahah I hope you had fun reading this fellow explorers and i would love to get more opinions on this as well

My Opinion: The probability of a human being to not have been a human being in a previous life and not going to be a human being or better in the future life are slim. Most probably you will be a human being or better in your next life. The tendencies, impressions, the accompanying knowledge, intelligence and mental structure being very much in compatibility with its immediate experience of being a human being, along with the further Knowledge of liberation and enlightenment in case of a jnani and devotion towards some god in case of a devotee, combined with atleast socially accepted moral and ethical standards ensure a better life in the next incarnation. Other possibilities are also possible, but are not the norm. Here is the proof: Before a reincarnation occurs, there is a gap in-between(actual earth time differs from person to person) two incarnations where other experiences are experienced, which are either heavenly or uncomfortable depending upon the impressions & tendencies you have accumulated in your life. This is very much similar to the dreams we have at night, which are based on what we do during the day time in our waking state. Having once attained enlightenment and merged completely into Non-Dual brahman(absolute truth / absolute unity), there is no individuation for that particular entity ever again. Other countless individuations may be happening. But, that merged entity is done for, never to be born again or indivduate again. It may be possible to bring the same entity into existence if needed, because ultimately everything is just an imagination. But, for brahman, who is really the doer in the form of prakrithi(Nature/reality). There is no need to depend upon one single entity for anything. Dear friends, it is wonderful that all of you have come so much closer to knowing the truth which is very much worth knowing. But, without studying this truth systematically from the knowledge pile which already exists for thousands of years, and simply depending on your own direct experience for everything is not going to get you so far. Even direct experience without proper knowledge will lead to further illusion and ignorance. As you can see, even the enlightened people will keep changing their teaching as new insights and truths unfold for them. What insights and knowledge one enlightened person has, the other may not have had. All these confusions & fear are there because of not undergoing proper study under a proper authority. These days its very difficult to find a proper authority. Atleast you can read the authoritative books which are accepted by many enlightened for thousands of years. In that regard Yoga Vasistha can answer many of your questions which are irking everyone. This ancient work(Yoga Vasistha) is atleast 10 times better in entertaining than the movies The Matrix, Inception and Interstellar combined: https://estudantedavedanta.net/The-Supreme-Yoga-Swami-Venkatesananda.pdf

I agree my view on this is that those who became mad through real suffering either take revenge or refuse to escape the 3d world and instead transcend it while within it as to actually truly understand it from this particular position; so of course by definition of the difficulty of such a suffering the masters that ascend first came and/or go somewhere else spiritually speaking; that is, their suffering is not so much our own it might have been something imaginary or they just didn't have to suffer because you don't have to. Not suffering is the best but that will mean you will discount mundane reality as only imaginary and not both like me for example;there are people who will have suffered even more than me in a 3d type trivial way so their field of reality will be more in direct parallel type world (maybe that's how psychopath elites are formed through successive slow torturous reincarnation and then pure revenge); there's this dichotomy of true power through total domination, ascension can happen from any position, it is only not understood because we are social creatures but we have dominated the inferior species so to speak, in other words if a psychopath completely dominates other humans there is literally no difference from what you and me are benefiting from right now, they will get their dominance and "evil" will be enlightened as it is and perfectly and just as ultimate if not more if you want to add any other element. Also assuming pain is what somehow creates the self recursive conscious imagination of reality. In the end or from the start or whatever it can be all a story/game for fun.It can be some straight up non imaginary type reality though and still enlightenment.Like non infinite enlightenment or enlightenment through literally torturing kids and having pleasure through it.I'm utterly unhinged in my thought process/imagination so please bear with me even here I can only expose 15% of me everyone is too sensitive for real freedom even on this forum it feels like some idiotic anti love prison which is also part of the game and perfectly understandable and even reasonable I just want it my way lol.

Yeah lol This is the part where you gotta find the answer for yourself But, my intuition is telling me justfortoday is correct, because why would Infinite Intelligence base your reincarnation on something as dumb and material as the population on a planet? And why only the creatures on Earth, why not other dimensions and creatures?

If nonduality could be explained, no one would believe it. You & a universe is two. Nothing is emerging to dismiss. I love creation, I’m not dismissing it. I’m saying there aren’t two. Dogma is the opposite of inspecting direct experience, or, nonduality. Yes, the idea of reincarnation is not the direct experience of it, just like everything else. Direct experience requires seeing through beliefs. Direct experience is ‘correct’, because it is direct experience. If direct experience is deception, then the direct experience is that of deception. There’s no direct experience of a brain, sans a thought, ‘brain’. The ‘brain’ appears to, but does not produce. What is can’t be predicted, it’s already what is. 100%. ?

Can you please explain the pointer of non-duality then. What does it point to if not to the non-existence of dualities in the universe. The way I understand it is this definition from wikipedia: In spirituality, nondualism, also called non-duality, means "not two" or "one undivided without a second". Nondualism primarily refers to a mature state of consciousness, in which the dichotomy of I-other is "transcended", and awareness is described as "centerless" and "without dichotomies I understand that the universe is as it is without the ideas and labels. But that doesn't mean we don't have the mental tools to learn about the universe through repeated observations and make predictions. Like the concept of limits in calculus, we can make better and better theories about the universe that get closer to the ground truth of the universe, but never completely reach the ground truth. Why do you completely dismiss all emergent properties of the universe, such as the mind and its ability to learn about its situation in reality? I get it... everything we know about the universe is mental constructs/objects. But there is no good reason to dismiss everything that our mind creates, this kind of anti-intellectual reasoning leads nowhere, the extent to which direct experience is valued over all else seems almost dogmatic here. The very idea of reincarnation requires belief. Please explain how you are directly experiencing reincarnation. Also, how can you be so sure that even without beliefs and any labels your direct experience is correct? Direct experience is equally deceptive. The reality that you experience is a result of your brain creating internal models which use predictions. Your direct experience is never ground truth but the best attempt at predicting what is.

These memories are not illusions only if you are able to recall something that seemed very real but you had never ever seen that before. Take this for example : If you are experiencing yourself eating something white and round ( if you were a South Indian in your past life ) but you had never seen or heard about it but able to vividly experience the appearance and taste of it, then you have proved that reincarnation is real. Any other kind of proof which originate from existing memory you had in this life has a good chance of turning out to be the result of powerful imagination.

@Mada_ I don't know about reincarnation specifically. You can be conscious of what reality is, and its nothing. My last mystical experience I thought, and even now I can feel it if I pay attention, "I am nothing, I will never not be nothing. And so I know, I know, that I will never die.". Nothing will never go. Framing this in terms of reincarnation or souls, I don't know. Maybe you can find some sort of empirical or scientific answer by researching and etc, but that sort of endeavour seems too difficult to me. When people talk about" past lives", it could be something they're just "making up", your psychological structure expressing itself in a symbolic fantasy. But don't write off the possibility it's real. When I was meditating once, my mind imagined myself in a past life. It was a very vivid experience. If I am to believe the experience I had, I was a tall young African American (or just African) male in my past life who was a criminal and died by being shot by someone. In this supposed past life I killed people as a criminal. I got the impression I sacrificed myself before my death somehow, and changed my ways somehow. Bled to death in the middle of a road after being shot. A chubby African female onlooker who was distressed. They were a loved one or a very close friend I think. Again though, this is probably all bullshit. Who knows.

@Leo Gura How did you come to the insight of reincarnation?

Let's not even talk about that some months ago he said reincarnation and last lives were imaginary... Now they actually happen? Cmon

@Leo Gura But if I am God, whats stopping me from at least resting for a couple hundred years before reincarnating? Why does God have a bias towards reincarnation in the first place? And why cant God reincarnate as an angel without suffering, who orbits very close to the godhead? That would also happen in Infinity right.

If it is not possible to understand or directly experience this phenomenon, then why even make up that concept? First of all, what is your definition of non-duality. Because the way I understand it is that a non-dualistic state is where the experience is centerless, there is no distinctions between anything, and everything, including thoughts, and actions/movements feel as seamless and spontaneous as heartbeats, a state without any dichotomies, complete oneness. I'm pretty sure I've experienced this on psychedelics and also able to understand it. The idea of evolution can be observed and confirmed with 100% consistency anywhere you look. Sure it's a made up idea by the human mind to estimate the ground truth of reality as closely as possible, but that doesn't mean it cant be one of the fundamental processes that takes place in the universe. What's wrong with the idea of the universe becoming aware of its own processes through human forms? Are we not "directly" observing the process of evolution whenever we look for it? Again whats the point of making up this concept and probing it or even having a channel on this forum dedicated for enlightenment topics, if every single idea is just a delusion and only thing that matters is direct experience, why not just have one big page that responds to every question or idea with "its just a thought" How is it possible to directly experience reincarnation, have you directly experienced reincarnation? Seems like self-delusion. It's a story that you have adopted from reading eastern philosophy. There is no way to verify the claim of re-birth So is the universe completely limited in understanding itself in absolutely every way? Is it not the fact of existence that the universe is right now experiencing itself through me. How can you say there is nothing to get around when I (universe) in fact am trying to get around something

I understand the non-dualisitic view, that we have evolved to think in dualities, thoughts and concepts are just mental constructs, fundamentally there is no difference between the self and the other. So how does it make sense to talk about things like reincarnation, isn't this just self-delusion, a story we tell ourselves. But you can't get around the fact that thoughts, labels, concepts are an emergent property that inevitably rise in more complex life systems, so there will always be suffering stemming from that. You can keep saying that these are illusions, but that doesn't mean we can't reason or make meaningful predictions about the state of our universe.

There’s no universe, people, earth, etc. This is all thoughts you’re believing. There is no past, no individuals, and in kind no reincarnation. Notice right now, it’s not ‘in the room’, it’s ‘in your head’. Eternity = ? / ♥️ / you, not concepts we come up with about lives, pasts, others, futures, etc. Scrutinize exactly where ‘in your head’ and you’ll find, “it’s” not even a thing in a thing at all. No locations, no time, no space even to begin with. All just beliefs, thoughts, labels, ideas, concepts = the suffering / identity of a separate of love, self, who is in time, space, a universe, on earth, “thinking”. You’ve never thought, done, or moved. Ever. You’re appearing as everything which so convincingly makes it seem so - to you. Meditation however...nothing can be said about.

I agree and that's actually what came to my mind as the only way to deal with suffering. But does that mean you conquered suffering permanently? Because you Believe in reincarnation ( I honestly have no idea what happens after the body dies). Also I don't think that ramana maharishi couldn't feel pain for example.. So at least there is minimum level of pain that you just CANNOT avoid.. Right?

In my view, non-duality as a concept is nothing to be fearful about. A concept is just that, a concept. Upon actually realising through expansion of consciousness or awareness in stillness, that all is one ... it becomes a clear recognition. Put another way, ascension is about expansion. Ego or delusion orientation leads to consciousness contraction. So there is nothing to fear per say, about reaching a non dual stage of awareness. Reincarnation and karma entwined is another story. No one judges us, since all is one and Gods energy is love. However, we ourselves choose reincarnation for consciousness correction or we may say alignment of our core, with our own divinity within.

Are you referring to reincarnation, or something else? Reincarnation shouldnt be scary. Though you go to a spirit world after death, i don't think you will reincarnate. I reference seeing through the eyes of humans and animals as part of mergings. This is transcendent consciousness. You might experience it differently if you get to that point. Maybe Leo was referring to something else, but the thing i am thinking of is good and not scary. It is a deep connection with nature and other people, even non physical entities. It's all good. Just make sure you seek the truth, whether you like it or not. Do not invent comforting illusions for yourself. The truth is better than what you can dream of, and you will lead yourself astray by hiding from it.