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The.sweet taste of Bliss https://www.aypinternational.com/commentaries-on-yoga/divine-nectar/

Jesus… finally got AI Leo to work again. He said: Ignorance is bliss. You’d be dead-Infinity knowing everything.

Do you think Eckhart Tolle is consciouss that the present moment is all that exists, or do you think he had a powerful Awakening that changed his life, but right now, or at least most of the time, he is not consciouss that the Now is the only thing that exists? Trying to make myself an idea of what is POSSIBLE in this work. Just had a non-dual awareness out of the blue and I entered such an euphoric state I can't believe this was actually possible.

I know it's stupid, but the thought crossed my mind. The ego lashes out against its destruction. The same things can be said for physical pain, no?

Meditation On Steroids - How To Get The FASTEST Meditation Gains https://youtu.be/cub6kY0oHZc Strong Determination Sitting technique: Leo describes Strong Determination Sitting as an intense meditation practice where you sit motionless for a long time (1-2 hours or more), learned from Zen master Shinzen Young. The practice involves surpassing physical discomfort and mental challenges and is a potential fast-track to Enlightenment. Zen tradition and physical endurance: Leo shares stories of the Marathon Monks of Mount Hiei in Japan, who practice extreme physical and mental activities, such as 100-day cycles of long-distance walking in meditation, demonstrating incredible human endurance and potential for consciousness expansion. Benefits of Strong Determination Sitting: Leo expresses that the technique helps one confront the weakness of the mind in Western societies. By enduring the practice, a meditator can experience heightened concentration, calmness, and transcendence, uncovering flaws in one's happiness and understanding of happiness in Western culture. Extent of personal meditation practice: After 2.5 years of meditating for an hour every day, Leo managed to achieve a 90-minute Strong Determination Sit, highlighting the difficulty and transformative power of the practice for those who persevere through physical pains and mental distractions. Conflation of happiness with presence: Leo critiques the Western perception of happiness, asserting that true happiness is not found in entertainment, stimulation, or love, but in complete presence and unity with the moment and reality, an experience that Strong Determination Sitting can offer. Significance of happiness and its pursuit: He challenges the effectiveness of commonly pursued happiness strategies, suggesting that the inability to be still and happy for even one hour reveals a fundamental flaw and misunderstanding of what true happiness entails. Misconception about monk practices and happiness: Leo argues that the intense meditation practiced by monks, which appears as self-torture, is fundamentally about training to be happy and non-resistant in the present moment, regardless of circumstances. Essence of meditation: According to Leo, the ultimate goal of meditation is to 'merge with reality,' suggesting that this union with the present moment enables profound happiness or bliss beyond ordinary experiences. Western worldview challenge: Leo invites the audience to juxtapose the happiness achieved through monastic practices with Western pursuits of happiness, questioning the effectiveness of typical Western strategies for achieving true contentment. Self-assessment of happiness: He challenges viewers to test their ability to sit peacefully for an hour as an indicator of their psychological state and questions the effectiveness of their current life strategies in achieving happiness. Rotten psyche and pursuit of happiness: Leo critiques the modern pursuit of happiness as faulty if it does not lead to peace and happiness in simplicity, suggesting that discomfort with being present indicates a 'rotten' mind or psyche. Litmus test for Enlightenment: He proposes that the ability to sit at ease and happily for extended periods without distraction can serve as a practical, albeit not conclusive, test for one's level of Enlightenment. Reconciliation with reality and psychological resistance: Leo describes the process of sitting still and facing discomfort as a method to align the mind with the ever-changing present moment, countering the human tendency to resist change. Concept of mind purification: He shares Shinzen Young's formula that purification equals pain multiplied by mindfulness, which serves to purge the subconscious mind of resistance to the present. Meditation compared to psychotherapy: Meditation is likened to psychotherapy but performed on a subtler, moment-to-moment basis, purging the mind of past traumas and embracing the present. Appreciation of spiritual disciplines: Leo calls for a reevaluation of Eastern spiritual disciplines, asserting that they are effective psychological tools that can substantially purify the mind and improve well-being. Pain, Resistance, and Suffering: Leo explains that suffering is the result of pain times resistance; reducing resistance to zero can, surprisingly, eliminate pain itself, transforming suffering into pleasure and happiness. Illustration of Resistance Concept: Leo shares an anecdote from Peter Ralston, an enlightened individual, who had a root canal without anesthesia, smiling through the procedure by completely embracing the pain through mindfulness, thus eliminating suffering. Degrees and Measures of Enlightenment: Enlightenment is defined by Leo as full presence in the moment without self or resistance, and he clarifies that there are varying levels of enlightenment, which can be profoundly deepened through dedicated practice. Relationship Between Pain, Suffering, and Spiritual Work: Leo considers the transformation of one's relationship with pain and suffering as a crucial aspect of spiritual work because constant resistance and fear lead to a life of avoidance and anxiety. Technique of Strong Determination Sitting: Leo introduces Strong Determination Sitting as an intense practice where you sit through physical discomfort without movement, leading to breakthrough moments where suffering suddenly vanishes due to the cessation of egoic resistance. Raising the Bar with Meditation: Leo suggests that intensive meditation practices, like Strong Determination Sitting, can reveal how low we set the bar for ourselves and greatly improve the quality of life by embracing and transforming discomfort. Intensive Meditation Recommendation: As a way to escalate meditation practice and progress towards enlightenment, Leo proposes doing four one-hour sits per day for a week, which can super-charge one’s meditation routine and mindfulness capabilities. Purpose of Meditation and True Happiness: The ultimate goal of these practices, according to Leo, is to achieve a state of happiness in everyday life, not just to prove endurance on a meditation cushion. By controlling and knowing oneself deeply, one can experience true happiness and gain almost magical abilities to shape life. Engagement with Actualized.org: Leo encourages viewers to engage with the resources on Actualized.org, where he aims to provide deep psychological insights and practical knowledge for achieving true happiness, self-awareness, and self-control. Riddikulus

My Enlightenment Experience - Exactly How It Happened https://youtu.be/QOsUx9a3UoU Second enlightenment experience: Leo recounts his second major enlightenment experience during a 10-day silent meditation retreat in Virginia, which he compares to his earlier, less comprehensible experience. The challenge of lacking conceptual frameworks: Leo discusses the difficulty of making sense of his first enlightenment experience due to an absence of the intellectual frameworks he developed later, which are essential for interpreting such experiences. Conditions for the experience: He describes the serene natural setting near a chapel in Virginia, with rolling green hills, forests, birds, and a rainy ambiance, which provided the perfect backdrop for deep meditation. Utilizing the 'Do-Nothing' meditation technique: Leo practices the 'Do-Nothing' technique, where he allows his awareness to roam freely without intervention, leading to increased mental focus after initial wandering thoughts. Insight into 'spaciousness': While contemplating the scenery, Leo gains insight into the concept of 'spaciousness', recognizing that in his visual perception, there is nothing behind or in front of observed objects, only the objects themselves and the space around them. Connecting insights with physical actions: He uses the 'well' technique, pointing his finger towards a tree and realizing that there is no tangible point of contact with his vision, reinforcing the insight of 'nothingness' around sensory experiences. Awareness of bodily sensations: Shifting focus to the stone balcony floor, Leo becomes aware of bodily sensations and applies the concept of spaciousness, noticing these sensations are not originating from or leading to any particular location. Application of self-inquiry method: Leaving the 'do-nothing' approach, Leo engages in self-inquiry, asking, "Who am I?" or "Who is the perceiver?" to deepen his understanding of the experience and consciousness itself. Challenges in self-inquiry: Leo points out that asking "Who am I?" without producing honest, tangible answers leads to stagnation in self-inquiry. Genuine responses are crucial, even if they may initially be incorrect. Recognizing fallibility of logical answers: Leo emphasizes that logical answers are inadequate in self-inquiry; what matters is attaining 'conscious traction'. This requires discarding logical conclusions for deeper, experiential understanding. Evolution of self-perception: Initially, Leo's self-inquiry leads him to identify as a combination of body, mind, and observer. He soon realizes this is an ingrained belief, not an ultimate truth, which propels his meditation deeper. Societal influence on identity: Contemplating further, Leo recognizes the arbitrary nature of his identity ('I, Leo') as largely a construct of societal conditioning traced back to childhood. Realization of arbitrary self-identification: Leo's insight deepens as he realizes that identifying with his physical and mental sensations is an arbitrary partition of his entire being, akin to being a slice of the whole pizza. Eradicating perceived knowledge: Achieving a state of genuine 'not knowing' proves critical for progression in self-inquiry by allowing space for new insights and the emptying of preconceived notions of self. Open-mindedness to non-physical existence: As self-inquiry leads to an emptying of preconceptions, Leo becomes receptive to the possibility of existing as a non-physical, non-human entity. Insight into omnipresence: Leo has a significant insight, transitioning from the thought of being omnipresent to an embodied understanding—an experience likened to a 360-degree camera, positioned everywhere. Experience of supreme peace and stillness: A profound moment of clarity dawns, bringing immense peace and bliss, as Leo's awareness expands and equalizes, culminating in a tangible sense of omnipresence and unity with his surroundings. Absolute Now and the Joy of Existence: Leo shares his profound experience of the 'absolute now', a state of profound presence beyond ordinary mindfulness of the present. He describes it as a heavenly sense of existence where you feel like God observing itself, and stresses that this state cannot be reached through thinking but rather through gaining conscious traction. Lucidity in Awareness: Leo details becoming completely lucid in his field of awareness, able to observe every detail around him. Despite a rapid stream of thoughts, he experienced a detachment from them, observing thoughts as separate phenomena without inherent meaning, just existing in the present moment. Thoughts as Phenomena: He gained insight into the nature of thoughts, realizing the substance of a thought is the phenomenon itself. This allowed him to disengage from the content of the thoughts and observe them as mere occurrences, which he considers a significant breakthrough in self-inquiry. Altered Sense of Self During Meditation: Leo noticed a shift in how he perceived his personal sense of self during meditation. He felt his point of awareness move above and behind his head, giving him a sense of hovering above his body while also feeling omnipresent. Questioning Enlightenment and Peak Experiences: Leo wrestles with whether his experience was enlightenment or just a peak experience. He hoped the state would be permanent, but suspected it might be transitory. Experience Wanes but Insights Remain: Leo's state of lucidity and omnipresence faded after about 90 minutes, but he retained a sense of calm and continued to feel enlightened. He maintained the insights gained from the experience. Zen Master Interpretation: Upon sharing his experience with a Zen master, Leo was told that he had glimpsed 'a few hairs of the ox's tail', indicating progress on the path to enlightenment but suggesting the journey was still only partially complete. Long-lasting Effects and Mind Expansion: Despite returning to a more typical state of mind, Leo feels that his mind has been permanently expanded. His meditation practices have become more powerful and he finds himself unintentionally meditating during routine activities, indicating a sustained level of mindfulness. Solidifying Practice and Proof of Concept: Leo is encouraged by his experience, taking it as proof that his meditation techniques are effective. He feels that his mind is now 'zoomed out' and that he is able to recreate aspects of his retreat experience during regular meditation, suggesting that he's closer to enlightenment than ever before. Motivation and Conviction: Leo hopes his experience motivates viewers to believe in the reality of enlightenment beyond just philosophy. He details the step-by-step process he underwent and recorded immediately after to ensure accuracy in sharing his self-inquiry technique. Proper Self-Inquiry Demonstration: The video serves as a demonstration for viewers practicing self-inquiry at home, highlighting common pitfalls and emphasizing the necessity of recognizing thoughts as phenomena without getting lost in them. Response to Enlightenment Video Criticism: Leo addresses concerns about making enlightenment videos without being fully enlightened. He prefers documenting his journey from the start to make it convincing and relatable, unlike distant yogis or Zen masters. Journey Documentation Significance: By sharing his progress and obstacles in real-time, Leo provides a raw and genuine look into the enlightenment process, showing the importance of overcoming doubts and struggles by oneself. Intentions Behind Content Delivery: Leo clarifies his direct and candid style is not meant to be arrogant but to communicate honestly and effectively; acknowledging the ongoing learning and evolving nature of personal development. Encouraging Hands-On Experimentation: Leo encourages viewers to experiment with his shared insights and methods, retaining what works and discarding what doesn't—a call to approach personal development with an open, exploratory mindset. Preview of Upcoming Content: He hints at future videos based on insights from his retreat, aimed at improving mindfulness, meditation, and the journey towards enlightenment. Understanding Psychological Laws: Exploring psychological laws is analogous to understanding physical laws for building a fulfilling life. Leo promises life-changing profundity for those who apply these principles over time. Community Results and Impact: He shares receiving feedback from those applying the principles from Actualized.org, seeing significant life improvements, affirming the effectiveness of his work and encouraging continued engagement. Muffliato

Germany was nearly thirty years ahead in technological advances than the rest of the world. They even had stealth technology and I am not talking about the Horten Ho 229, which is probably where the USA got the idea for the Northrop YB-35 and YB-49, which later became the stealth bomber B21. The Germans also paved the way for more efficient tanks and submarines U-480 which was one of the first uses of stealth and launched the first jet plane in 1939 and much, much more. When the war ended both Russia and America picked from the cream of the crop the best German scientists and gave them a free pardon for their involvement in the war and a new life in the USA and Russia. How do you think you got to the moon so fast? Wernher von Braun helped design and co-developed the V-2 rocket actually the Germans were the first in space in 1944. And no I am not talking about Sputnick or the first animal or human like the Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin, Soviet Union's Vostok program on 12 April 1961 at the beginning of the Space Race. On 5 May 1961, Alan Shepard became the first American in space, as part of Project Mercury. Lesser Known was a Russian Female Soviet cosmonaut, Valentina Tereshkova. On 16 June 1963, Tereshkova was launched on a solo mission aboard the spacecraft Vostok 6 and became the first woman in space. They don't make them like that anymore, unfortunately. A woman after my own heart. What else is never talked about is what the Russians and other allies did to the German people at the end of the war. and how the generations after the war are in a way still paying for it. If look into history you find that the Empire has more Blood on its hands than any other country. The British have Invaded 90 Percent of the Countries on Earth. Where is your precious empire now? Just like the Mongols were the second to use Biological warfare in 1346. Anyway, Wernher von Braun led NASA's development of the Saturn V rocket that took Apollo 11 to the Moon. His Nazi record was not widely known until after his death. How convenient for him and Nasa. The Mars Project was the first technical study on the feasibility of a human mission to Mars and has been regarded as "the most influential book" on planning such missions Mark Wade wrote in Encyclopedia Astronautica, "What is astonishing is that von Braun's scenario is still valid today. Somehow Musk you were not the first. What have we humans learned from the 2nd world war or any other war? Interesting that Germany invaded Russia I have always wondered if they had become allies with Russia and how that would have played out as well as knowing that Germany was the first to discover Nuclear fission at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Chemistry in December 1938. The Kaiser Wilhelm Society for the Advancement of Science was a German scientific institution established in the German Empire in 1911. How would the world be now if Germany had been the first to develop the atomic bomb? Because they had the means and the delivery system to deploy it. I am sure there is a reality where this exists. Or where there never was a continental drift and it never occurred and the world was one big land mass. How would humans get along then? Or if the earth was bigger and the new world was not discovered until the 1900s hundreds. I am sure the indigenous peoples would have survived just fine without us meddling and pushing unwanted beliefs upon them. Ironically, Wernher von Braun had been arrested by the Gestapo for “defeatism” in March 1944 and was imprisoned for two weeks until Hitler released him to continue producing V-2s. As Nazi Germany collapsed in the spring of 1945, von Braun was ordered to destroy all documents relating to the rocketry program. He disobeyed, hiding the papers in an abandoned mine in the Harz Mountains, where he later retrieved them. Terrified by tales of what the Soviet Red Army did to German prisoners, von Braun and his staff fled westward to the advancing American army. The Nazi SS pursued the German scientists and engineers with orders to kill them and destroy their records. On May 2, 1945, von Braun was able to surrender his entire group to the U.S. Army. The United States government was very interested in German rocket technology, and in June 1945, sent von Braun and most of his rocket team to Fort Bliss, Texas, along with 150 captured V-2 rockets in “Operation Paperclip” (the files of those Germans selected to go to America were marked with paperclips). Von Braun and his team taught rocketry to the U.S. Army and were soon moved to White Sands Proving Grounds (now White Sands Missile Range), New Mexico to conduct live firings. On January 16, 1946, V-2 flight tests began there; despite some targeting problems (one V-2 landed south of Ciudad Juarez, Mexico), launches continued until 1949, when all usable rockets had been fired. Funny how it always comes back to New Mexico what happened there again in the summer of 1947? I guess we will never know or will we😂 In 1950, Wernher von Braun’s team was transferred to the Army’s Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama. In addition to directing the construction of new rockets there, he also used his skills in public relations to raise the interest of the American people in space exploration. He helped organize the First Symposium on Space Flight on October 12, 1951, in New York City, which was attended by many distinguished scientists and writers. Papers from the conference were published in 1952 by Collier’s magazine under the title “Man Will Conquer Space Soon.” Von Braun further expanded the public’s awareness of the promise of space exploration by appearing on three Walt Disney television shows on the subject in the mid-1950s. On July 1, 1960, Dr. von Braun’s Army team was transferred to the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), as the core of the new Marshall Space Center in Huntsville. As the center’s first director, von Braun continued to oversee the development of ever-larger rockets for the Apollo program, America’s mission to land a man on the moon. Beginning in 1961, his team built the Saturn I, the largest rocket ever built at the time, in 1966, the Saturn IB, the rocket that launched the Apollo spacecraft into earth orbit, and finally, the massive Saturn V, the rocket that in 1969 landed Apollo 11 on the Moon. On March 13, 1970, Wernher von Braun became NASA’s Deputy Associate Administrator for Planning. In June 1972, after NASA’s budget had been greatly reduced, he retired to become president of Fairchild Industries. In 1975 he helped establish the National Space Institute. The author of two popular books, Conquest of the Moon (1953), and Space Frontier (1967), Dr. Wernher von Braun died of cancer in Alexandria, Virginia on June 16, 1977. Though his important role in Hitler’s war machine will forever cloud his legacy, many believe that, without Wernher von Braun, America would have landed men on the Moon much later, if at all. The von Braun crater on the moon is named for him. As for propaganda well that was studied extensively by the US amongst other countries no doubt. If you look back at the Nürnberg Rallies (Nuremberg) in Bavaria. The rallies were primarily propaganda events, carefully staged to reinforce party enthusiasm and to showcase the power of National Socialism to the rest of Germany and the world. The propaganda used by the German Nazi Party in the years leading up to and during Adolf Hitler's dictatorship of Germany from 1933 to 1945 was a crucial instrument for acquiring and maintaining power and for the implementation of Nazi policies. The manipulation of the minds of individuals by using Propaganda fear and lies is being portrayed and used today. It is just so subtle and done in such a surreptitious way that it is hard to recognize it. In the 21st century, propaganda is largely disseminated and propagated through the mass media, the internet, social media platforms, and of course, TV. and the news. Modern propaganda still utilizes classic tactics such as name-calling and bandwagoning to sway the audience toward or against a particular belief. Propaganda can also be used as a force for good as well. What is even sadder is that almost 80 years have passed and nothing seems to have been learned through previous Wars. Interesting how those events played out and how a German man became a hero to the Country that had once been enemies. It is a shame they did not give all that gold back that they plundered. To some the Spanish conquistadors were heroes. They bravely sailed into the unknown, gathered untold riches and wealth, and spread Christianity to the New World. To others, the conquistadors were evil villains who slaughtered native empires, enslaved thousands, and cheated and stole great fortunes. They viewed the Aztecs as potential subjects to be conquered and converted to Christianity and for some reason, smallpox comes to mind.

It is only the ego or finite mind that suffers. An Infinite Mind is Absolute Love and Bliss. But the finite mind grasps for infinity - that's why it suffers. This is exaggerated in the mental disorder OCD which is a need for certainly. You aren't wrong- the finite Mind IS God. It is God in finite form. God suffers when it is masquerading as finite. But in its purest form - infinite- it cannot. All states of Consciousness are God - but God is in its most pristine state as just pure Infinity. And then it breaks itself down into lesser forms. That's how it goes.

If this was truth, then there is no hope for anyone, if their belief or present experience is that of suffering immensely, and that is where they "should" be right now then what is the point of anything, where is the possibility, might as well not be alive is suffering is inevitable and that is that, nothing to do about it lol. Yes one must accept things as they are right now, if Your feeling suffering then that is the way it is, but acceptance does not mean you want it to be this way or that nothing can be done about it. Who wants to suffer, really? No one wants to suffer, we are designed to live at higher levels of Pleasureable experiences, everything about us works better when in a pleasureable state like Bliss, so that is the point of it all, one may never get to a point of Bliss, but at the minimum they can be at Peace within themselves as a natural experience, compared to suffering every moment of the lives like many are doing now...

Like You said here, the opposite path leads you to hell, what is hell? Hell represents suffering, Truth represents Bliss, or intense pleasure, pleasure not in the sense of eating a ice cream cone or having a favorite meal, Pleasure in the sense of feeling fulfilled, complete and intensely alive. There is one equation in Life, gain as much Pleasure/Joy/Bliss vs avoiding as much pain and suffering as you can, most all your choices come from this fundamental. You respond to posts because not responding is more unpleasant, this equation is happening every second for every decision you make, just try it now after reading this post, observe your reaction to it and see what need comes up in your mind in how to respond, then resist it, see what happens...

Question: How can one conquer sleep? Mataji: Sleep cannot be conquered, yet under certain conditions, the need of sleep vanishes of itself. When you are keenly interested in something you do not feel sleepy, on the contrary, you remain wide awake without any effort; but afterwards you get a reaction and have to make up for your loss of sleep. When you have not slept enough you cannot do good work. On the other hand sound sleep refreshes you. At least a few out of the twenty-four hours of each day must be spent in sleep, otherwise you feel tired and wretched. Why? During deep sleep the activities of the senses are at rest, and moreover although still covered by the veil of ignorance, you touch your Self. Unless this happens at least once a day, you cannot endure life; it becomes an ordeal. This is so for the average person. However, as one progresses in sadhana, the senses get more and more rest and one draws nearer to one's Self. In proportion to the discovery of one’s Self, the necessity of sleep decreases. When the Self has been realized, when one has become absorbed in the bliss of the Self, then there is no more question of work, of experience or of sleep, because there is only the ONE! Then sleep will not exist for you anymore, you will have gone beyond it. This is why I begin by saying, sleep is not conquered, it ceases of itself. Nevertheless, it is also true that a yogi may conquer sleep by the Divine Energy that awakens in him through his yoga. But for the àtmànishtha, established in the Self, the question of sleep can no longer arise. The amount of sleep a person requires depends on various factors. When tamas predominates one needs more sleep, and also when the body is weak or unhealthy. The kind of food one eats also has a bearing on the amount of sleep that is required. Question: How is one to know whether one sleeps too much out of laziness or because the body needs it because of weakness. Mataji: if you watch yourself carefully you will soon find out. - As the Flower Sheds its Fragrance, p100. Diary Leaves of a devotee Atmananda on Ma Anandamayi.

Love its quite simple, an Emotion, a strong sense of pleasure, you feel it because of the Oxtocycin in your Brain, mostly triggered by subject/object attraction then something clicks in your brain, the hormone is released and you feel a great connection with other. Being Loving is another thing all together, its you expressing what You are feeling within Yourself, which is where all experience and feeling comes from, Love is not about the other, its just stimulated by the other for most. You want Love to feel Bliss, if Love made You feel pain and suffering then you wouldn't want it...

Well among other readings I am doing these days and making art and editing y new commom book, I want to share that I am taking time to make my own summaries of the Videos I most like, not in a particular order, just the ones that I fell conect with some insigth that vibes with my daily life topics Since I was imersed in my Commombook builting I remembered to check the video about it and also the video about Content vs Structure. this one below : So what i think is nice to do is to make a summary for yourself. why? because maybe I f I would make to someone else I would have the tendency to adapt it to capture most of the examples he gives in the video, I personaly dont need all the content of one video. sometimes what really get are one or another highligth I will of course not post in the forum all summaries I do . I just sharing this just to give one ideia : my Summary end up filling a small page in I will post here. Probably some videos are unsummarizable (for example the video WHAT IS ACTUAL) because are more a guided meditation and not a explanation of conceptual ideias , my guess: Content /Structure Dvd disc (Structure) vs Data on it (Content) English Language (Structure) Stuff writen or thougth is Content built with English structure Event (Srructure of it ) vs (Contents of the Event) Dreams (Structure) vs (Houses,people, dogs…) Movies (Structure) vs (Content ) "You can wake up from a dream by changing content withing a dream, by going to talk with people, catching books, buying a house.. You break up from it by realizing that there is a metalevel in it, you see something so weird going on that you shift attention from the content and you realize the structure and then you BING, ah I am dreming!! And you wake up" Going Meta is needed to see the structures, a steping back to see better the dimentions of it The ideia is be able to see the Underlining Structure of Things, not getting wrap-up in the content Going Meta on Science: Seeing the Structure of it Going Meta on Religion: No see the content but underline structure of all religions (Ideology,Dogma, Authority figures) Reality is Nested Structures Differences in content distracts from seeing the sameness in the structure Examples of this point: Christianity and Islamism (different contents but same structure) Atheist and Theist (Both belive they are rigth and the other is wrong) Start Studying the Structure of Consciouness and dont get lost in Content. The content if a Infinite Sea. Like a fish in the ocean not able to go Meta and undestand the Whole Stucture of the Sea STUDY THE STRUCTURE OF YOU MIND: Projection Denial Ideology Clinging to Ideias and Beliefs Confirmation Bias CheeryPicking Paradigmes Question Begging Self-bias Justification Moralization Group- Think Conformity Cult-psycology Judgement Demonization Ego Emotions Meaning making and storytelling Roles you play Posing You biggest problem is Happiness (it cant be solved on the level of content since all you can add as content will not make longlast change Happines is a Structural Problem, Go meta here and change the Structure of your psyque. Even a Psycadelic brings Bliss Content but after with no change in your structure the effects fade away and you are back to your default structure. Psycadelics is to show the Structure so you go and do the Work on the Structure so you get the fruits. Whatever you go there you are, you take your structure with you, your mindset, habits all..

There are others, other bodies, other minds, we as Humans just have the ability to feel/experience Oneness, in a physical way we show by hugging, cuddling, and other such acts, but actors do this all the time with others but have no personal or real feelings towards the others, its just an experience Your having, which is good and fine, just don't make it about "I". When I went thru these states it was just about having Bliss, having Oneness of Experience, everything is me, I am everything, then trying to share it, either one takes it in and accepts it or doesn't, that doesn't involve me. Only in the realm of Oneness, where all possibility exists, there is no individuality there, but here there is, we just have the capability of making our fundamental experience that of Oneness, will still embodied and dealing with everyday life and having to survive another day...

@Scholar You only want Love because it is pleasurable, you avoid pain because it causes suffering over time, non pleasureable, Peace is 0 on a scale of 0-10 on the pleasure scale of intensity, Love is about 7, Bliss is 9, Esctasy is 10, devotion is above Love, its 8 I would say:)

@Davino Well yes but its not the Ego directly that is the problem, its believing or experience it as You, so we have to get more fundamental, if all of us had no Ego, then how would you deal with other ppl, other personalities and identities and situations, its bad enough as it is, but with no ego's, I don't know really how it would be, its a tool and something to use to function in society better, I think either if we had no ego then we would be in a sense of oneness and bliss all the time and our species would not have survived this long or it would have continued to be chaos and such war like environments all the time everywhere and hence again would would not have survived as long..What is saving us is laziness, ppl are addicted to media, internet, entertainment and drugs/Booze, it causes problems but the vast majority are out of touch and do nothing with their lives, hence why we have a lonliness problem as well...

You guys are making great point and I’m enjoying this conversation. I think you’re absolutely right about psychedelics, they are limited and can create all kinds of delusion. There is something very pure about natural sober awakening. It’s nice and slow, stable and clean. Now, this does not discount Love at all. You can awaken and merge into reality, realize you are imagining it as God. You are the creator. Okay, so why? Why this whole thing? It’s just for the Universe or Being to experience itself. To know itself. What about the joy of this evolution, the bliss of this evolution, the Love of this process? You think Jesus was deluded when he preached about Love? How about all the other highest mystics who mention this as the ultimate structure of reality. None of them tripped and came to the same conclusion. Metaphysical Love is undeniable. It might not be the whole thing and there are certainly other aspects of awakening. But if you can’t acknowledge Love as the point of all this. The highest realization. You’re missing something vital

You know how everyone like to talk about how everything's already perfect and love, well don't worry to much we are also already in hell, ANY suffering no matter how lame, weird, unique or how small is "hell", we are already in hell too, we just don't take small sufferings seriously, we only need to learn that ANY suffering is "bad", real and valid, like fearing the color blue, the true confusion does emerge because suffering only exists because of "pleasure" but pleasure can exist without pain or suffering and hence we forget suffering, the trick here is to complete our personal stories/journeys where all your personal pleasures merge so harmoniously that they loopback into creating a true unique "ego", identity/identifier which has the advantages of the form of "suffering" without suffering, this enables multiple different supreme beings to exist at the same time in an individualized and interactable domain. Even bhudda or whoever anyone looks up to as the most supreme CANNOT handle even a single moment of an ant's SMALLEST suffering, they CAN however enjoy an ant's bliss while a less developed being might not, in other words for an ant having to move 1 cm extra due to an obstacle might be an infinitively small "pain/suffering" due to the extra energy required to process the obstacle created by that slight extra movement for a "supreme being" a 1 cm movement is also just as "horrific" even though they ARE supreme and for them that would be even TRILLIONS of time less infinite suffering(like billions of times easier than moving a finger) they would still choose not to suffer it, the point is we are only going to get "somewhere" different with joy/pleasure/bliss, if that 1 cm movement can be like the enjoyment of a dance then perhaps it has some value now, so it DOES not matter how silly a suffering is, at that given time and state it is utterly real same as any silly and even "evil" pleasures, evil gets more complex but it's basically the same thing but we'd have to understand both bliss/love and suffering at the same time to truly get "evil". That said this all just a real story for fun.

Suffering "shouldn't" exist because it self nullifies, therefore all there is is "love/bliss", since that clearly is not the truth since anyone alive does experience suffering it means that suffering exists only because of love not in spite of it, suffering cannot exist on it's own and does not, love does exist on it's own at least as an "imagination" that it is drawn from. Because love can exist on it's owns it doesn't need something "more", or more quantity of it or to evolve. Therefore this love we are experiencing is the horror of extra infinity, the creation of an "extra love", the possibility of impossibility, in other words one of the only things that are impossible are occurring here, an infinity that goes beyond infinity, which by definition is impossible yet we suffer, suffering does not exist by itself it's always mixed up in love. Perhaps it's this extra love which hurts the "other" loves, quantity and time are the manifestations of extra infinity/love, since having and being more than infinity is an impossible concept, extra infinity comes in and grants us the impossibility which is called suffering, while it's true it cannot exist on it's own, when "mixed" with love it forms the connection from one love to another different love, when you have "two" loves the suffering has done it's job as if it never existed in the first place as suffering is likely the product of "pure" conceptual difference between to initially different types of love. Then likely comes EXTRA extra infinity because if everything was just being assimilated "perfectly", or one to one, one at a time, so 1 love and another love mixing and creating suffering out of their attempt at connecting and becoming "more" than love, "more" than perfection which is also impossible this creates a more than 1 suffering at a time situation. Therefore it is not only possible to have more than "one perfect love" it is possible to have more than one love and more than one suffering at a given time therefore creating not just a difference in forms but also time which then explains both infinity, forms, quantity, types, stories, dualities, asymmetries and finity. I realized people like/understand the word suffering much more than pain, my bad since English's my second language I didn't realize it was so strongly associated with bodily suffering because I've only recently came out of a 15 year long chronic bodily(and emotional) torture that started round 15 years of age, getting "unfairly" tortured by life in several different ways without actually dyeing while continually regenerating from it while being "spiritual" and actually trying to understand reality and what's happening to you works as a pretty powerful "psychedelic" energy wise, this of course is just another story, suffering isn't needed, for now, I'll wait for the ultimate infinite impossibility where suffering is somehow truth, probably already the case, at least the form of suffering but not it's feeling.

I think they are facets of our being. Bliss feels different than love. IMO Love is not liberation. It feels good, sure. But there are higher dimensions. The more higher on the ladder you go, the more liberation. Until total dissolution happens. Love means someone is being united with other. There is still duality. IMO, in Love There is still a Self. A Self experiencing Love, which might feel really good, but still Self. Still a trace of subtle suffering and compression. Still not total dissolution. (This is my experience, take this with a grain of salt. Also my experience of Love might be different from yours. At the end of the day we are dealing with the limitation of words here).

@BlessedLion dont let the realization of Love as the nature of reality prevent you from doing the apprenticeship. I also was enlightened via meditation- and the realization of Love was nowhere. And i had 4 to 5 back to back massive awakenings. Yet they were all Love without it being said. Leo claims Bliss is different from Absolute Love - it is not.

So i thought this is the place to vent to . I really need help . For last 4 mounths i have been battling my ego and fell into an depression even had thoughts of ending it . I realised i have everything i want . Every goal i wanted to achive , succes , beeing fit , funny etc . All was a requirment for me to love my self . Always judging myself . Having problems of not feeling good enough since my childhood . But last year it changed and i achieved all those ( if this happend i would be happy ... ) and after some time THE BAR GOT RAISED and it tottaly creeped me out . You cant BECOME GOOD ENOUGH . The reality is neutral we are just judging it . I also had a vision how i am everything , like every emotion ... personality , all exists in my essence and i believe when you reach those goals (when you pleased the ego how it sees the reality should be ) you get the glimpse of that essence inside of you as award . Why you want that is cause you feel like that rush of unconditional love that full acceptance ( its like core confidence indeed is full acceptance ) its like the more accepting i became the smaller my shadow has become the more love and happines (bliss) i felt , confidence also . I realised all the feelings i give my self . But due to conditioning we all judge what is good enough or worth of love , respect , sadness ... I feel as if the more can we love and accept the universe (self) , the more we are going to be happy . So if i imagine gods mind as the universe everything that exists (truth) is worth of love because the god accepted it , as us the more we accept and the more our mind becomes like the mind of god the more at home and the bigger bliss we would feel cause what you ressist it cant exist in your reality , truth = love ?? The less i need to control the happier i have been . Now i am not sure in all this but i feel and remember this felt like truth but after time its lik fog occupied my conscioussnes . Am i on the right path ? I feel like giving up and starting my normal life again cause its been paused for some time and i feel like i got even more lost ?

@Circassia To Rostov All is one. You are god and you are everybody else. It is the monad, brahman, and Dao. Separation is an illusion. The duality reduces to the monad. You may get reincarnated and go back in time and be your current sibling, friend, coworker, parent, etc. So they are you at this very moment. This applies to all of history. Another thought is maybe in some other dimension we actually volunteer for experiences like torture. It may be the most sought after reincarnation. Another thought is dualism and the two black and white fishes going around in the yin yang symbol. So after infinite reincarnations, 50% of them are bad and 50% of them good. It all averages out. The torture will be balanced by euphoria and bliss. Stop thinking and live. Just be. You are mentally masturbating yourself and avoiding the real work. All is distraction. The Hindu Maya. Follow the Hindu Lila. Good luck!

Suffering is Unwillingness. Bliss is willingness. Learn to love discomfort but don't make an identity out of it.

What god are we talking about? A subject god? A person god that can suffer? A god that feels? A god that carries biological intents? A god that imagines humans? Or a god that creates the universe and humans losing itself in it as one? A god that is a vessel for experience? A god that is the experience? A god that is pure being devoid of emotion? Or a god that somehow acquired emotion and projected it onto a universe simulation? A god that forgets? A partial god? Complete god? What even is a complete god? What is not god? Are emotions part of god any more than forms? Is the mental aspect more god than the form aspect? Are we god? Are we a subset of god? Are we a simultaneous multi-projection of god? Does base god even have emotion? Does base god even carry understanding? Does base god remember? Does it learn? Does it already know everything? Is it evolving? What's the nature of this God? How did it acquire its first forms? How did all forms evolve? What is this mental qualia of desire and emotion, suffering and bliss?