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Sure. But enlightened is even better, and with too much fascination for aliens (or anything at all for that matter), cookies, money, power, fame, sex, whatever Maslow up&down, the wave surfer never gets tired of wave surfing, and never drops&dissolves into the Infinite Ocean. And since the Infinite Ocean is its True Being, cosplaying as alien wave-surfer ends like any wave surfing: Suffering. Self-Contraction. And not Sat-Chit-Ananda of nondual Infinite Being. On the other side, wave-surfing is the raison d'etre of this Samsara show, so who am I to complain? Mumbling along Om Mani Padme Hum by the River & smiling and cheering at the (alien, cookies,money, power, fame, sex, whatever Maslow up&down) kite-surfers appearing on the Infinite River

Italians the lovers? Sure the swiss are better. Anyway, Why don't you see the point in Leo's alien awakening? Yes, ok, the essential thing is to realize your true infinite nature, but once that is done, the wheel keeps turning. Better an interdimensional hyperintelligent alien than a schizophrenic in the Congo, or not?

And you confuse the summum bonum of realizing/living/ stabilizing non-dual undivided infinite Absolute Reality without any filters and lenses of separation still left, or in other words Infinite Being, eternal and timeless, with its changing and temporary manifestations and understandings, looking through remaining filters of separation, through which you interpret all these alien appearances/understandings/illusions. What is the essence of Alien consciousness (of)? YOU. Where was your alien before you were born? Do I need to get fascinated by alien turtles upon turtles upon turtles, to Infinity? Or rather, confuse my Being with that fascination? I know that that what you talk about appears. Never doubted that, or "your" aliens. I just don't give it the importance you give to it. What is that importance, ARISING IN YOU? The last remaining filters/lenses of separate-Leo. But don't worry, no one is left behind. Also separate-Leo-illusion not. https://www.actualized.org/insights/crocodile-love Selling crocodile love by the River - and also at the same only the best to relative Leo. May he have fun and rejoice in his explorations, and wake truly up one day to the futility of climbing aliens turtles upon turtles upon turtles, before any crocodile may even smile at him. And then, "he" can continue exploring alien turtles upon turtles upon turtles, but will do it as celebration and not from a perspective of separate-self-Leo-suffering-contraction-lack, but from infinite abudance without any sense of urgency or lack. Or higher or lower. And he will look with the same love at the flower in his garden as to the highest Alien Consciousness (of). And all of that just for fun, because there is nothing else to do. For eternity. Om mani padme hum ) Always right here.

Maybe someone should ask him on what precisly he changed his mind. He is not the only to discover more after nondual Enlightenment. Harri Aalto. Szyper, LOVE LIGHT: NON-DUALITY, NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES AND GOD. Here you can also find what you call Love as Absolute. Szyper places love/light/God/Goddess of mercy/love/light as ripened version of mere "bleak" nondual insight/Enlightenment. But all of that is happening on the manifestation side... in, on and as the ground of being. YOU. All of that falls on the manifest side, even if its subtle or alien. Timeless Infinite Absolute Reality remains the same. Do YOU really change in essence? Who/What is aware of all of that which is possible? Whatever Ralston has realized, did it change "his" timeless True Being? Or did "he" just realize more of what "that" can do/manifest/? Leo, its Infinity upwards. There is no end. n+1. Your islands of "alien consciousness" (OF) in the vast infinite Ocean of Being rests on other islands/turtles, downwards and upwards to Infinity. Turtles on Turtles on Turtles on Turtles, and no end in sight, nor ever could be. Face it, and see what the fascination is made of (you), and let it die. And see what remains (You). And then enjoy all of it, small or big, alien or not... A divine understanding, an alien realization, a flower in your garden... until the final crocodile of this life smiles at "you" and bites... Meet you there - already right now.

You will understand why (true) Enlightenment can't be a hallucination when you have the realization of Enlightenment. Not one moment before. Impossible to explain. It is Absolute, beyond any possible doubt. It is the only Reality. Infinite, without a second, with no alternativ to it. It is the Reality of YOU, and the Reality of the "world" that you experience (I assume) as outside. There is no outside. Only You. You can not doubt that, nothing can gaslight you in that realization. It is beyond all of that. What arrogance!!! Nice piece of real estate for happy&carefree living, hm? What this Absolute Reality/True Being (without anything possibly outside of it, aka Oneness or Nondual or Infinite or One without a second) can do/imagine/manifest: Even God or Reality is exploring that. And that is forever an Infinity, never to reach the end. God will forever explore its potential of manifestation, will never reach the end. In the end is a mystery to itself, when it comes to the manifestation side. Here, Leo and I align. Although he is a bit more fascinated on the Consciousness OF side, which for me is just appearance, because any perspective/being/consciousness of/Alien/God/human/ant/whatever is itself also just appearance. Appearing IN THAT. While the essence of Reality, and of any appearance or manifestation (alien n+1 or not), your True Infinite Being, can very well be realized. Its you. True you. Not the illusion. On that side (not on the manifestation side or consciousness OF), the bug stops here. Koan de jour: Where does the bug stop?

Ask him how is that he can channel an alien being from the future but that one is only parroting 1990 new era literature and he is not able to contribute with any material new knowledge we don´t know already in 2024 (like a formula to create new sources of energy, geographic location where has been found some important historical remains, chemical compound of new medicines etc, etc, etc).

Do you think he is really channeling an alien mind or just a good actor with some awakening experiences?

Ask him if the US has alien spacecraft.

That's the interesting part! How do we know ChatGPT is conscious but then how do we know others are conscious? And then, Chat might be a bunch of variables and if statements, but it's also a neural network drawing out of quantum chaos. Where does consciousness come from? Can ChatGPT be possessed by an alien or integrated into the human psyche? And finally, even if it's a machine, its unique persona and information integration gains consciousness through our Projection!

I'm in "alien consciousness" all the time so it is possible.. but is that what you really want? Coz it's actually kind of hard to be here as a result. Everything looks like pixel art (though not usually high quality) and on top of that you're utterly alone here with no friends. (though ofc not the same as the "highest awakenings" I had coz I would not be able to have a body anymore if I were to be in that permanently). None of you guys can even talk to me or for long, so that tells me everything about how far you've reached.. "I" am still being dissociated in your mind and am which to awaken to. Ralston is even farther from me.. he immediately started making fun of me when I approached him politely.. Not much I can do about all that since I am pretty much an "unknown quantity" in the spiritual world and due to obsession with doing away with "religious lingos" any mention of the word Christ tends to get labeled as crazy or "impossible".

Surface Structure of Enlightenment: The interpretation and expression of Enlightenment (realizing ones True Being as Infinite Being/Totality/Nothingness appearing as Infinite Being, which is the end of believing and buying into the illusion-appearance of a separate-anything/self in any way) is dependend on the structure/body-mind. And that evolves and changes. And has an endless variety. (surface structure). Deep Structure of Enlightenment: A Being in non-physical subtle realms, beings containing a whole realm or a World Soul, or even an alien from another galaxy will have a different expression - and a much different appearance and understanding in its mind-stream/perspective than an enlightend human. Yet, if you ask them "What are you?" the answer is "Infinite Being/The Totality/all there is/Nothing and everything". And if you ask them if they suffer (or resists some parts of their nondual being/appearances), the answer is "no, in this nondual mind-state with the separate-self-contraction/illusion seen through and cut off there is no suffering or resistance of parts of ones own being, there is bliss of the nature of my True Nondual Being, the Infinite Totality itself". Sat Chit Ananda. So, "they" are are aware that they are the Infinite Totality beyond which nothing can exist/appear, and there is no separate anything/self left. And that is the crucial difference to part-time and incomplete Awakenings of a separate-self-illusion. Ralston has now opened up a stage humans can develop to, which by the way is nothing new. Just read Harri Aalto for example, and many of the past masters. Wolinsky writes about Alien Realms for example, Jac O'Keffee, Ziewe also, and what not. What were Alien realms/expressions of consciousness called in medieval times? Divine beings, archetypes, and many names. And the mystical literature is full of that, including merging and becoming them. But giving too much importance to these new alien/divine islands of appearance (appearance, which they all are, since the "one" perceiving them is also structure-appearance), especially coming from an unenlightened being with separate-self well & alive & not fully transcended having awakening experiences ... well, suffering until wising up. Too much fascination with ones own tail or manifestation so to say. And that too much fascination prevents Enlightenment... because what is this fascination? An essential building block of the separate-self illusion. It is not that there is no room for alien islands of consciousness in Water by the Rivers perspective. It is just that no ultimate importance is given to them, because if that is the highest goal, only suffering will follow - as with every fascination on aspects of ones own being/tail that makes the separate-self grasp on certain experiences. The ocean is always right here, eternally so. If one is busy wave-surfing, one never drops into the Infinite Ocean fully, never truly becomes it on deep identity level (with all the benefits of persistant nondual states), and always stays the "wave-surfer". Yet, for some beings it seems to be their Raison d'être, so all its fine. Ignorance (or suffering separation and the absence of Sat Chit Ananda) is only a bad idea from the perspective of ignorance - Francis Lucille. For the Totality looking through all eyes its great fun! Else it wouldn't happen. Selling little alien islands in "the" Infinite Ocean to eagerly fascinated seekers (while keeping n+1 or an infinity of them for future hypnotizing explorations)

I get it . You claim that The ultimate level of spirituality as far as you have reached is alien love . But there is always more levels .. and those levels cannot lead us “to the end”. Because there is no end . So nobody on the entire planet have a clue about alien consciousness but you .it should follow that you have "enough consciousness " to prove it since you are the one claiming that . Is it that you struggle to find the words ? perhaps it needs a shift in perception. Because to me unless you give detailed demonstrated explanation of this alien thingy then you are just making it up (no offence at all intended)

🤔Strange answer. Then who does ? You are the one claiming to access these alien states..and claiming that your savvy is beyond those so called enlightened people who don’t have enough consciousness of what you are saying.

OK. Getting excited for that one .Will purchase it if the free samples were captivating for my attention. Good move in putting the most advanced teachings behind a pay wall. But just a note that I remember you saying a while ago that you will will do an alien demo on YouTube. Whatever happened to to that?

How does alien awakening beat Infinite Love Awakening One

@Leo Gura why don't you just make a video explaining that alien stuff ? Why are you just talking vaguely about it on the forum?

sometimes I remember how I used to think before awakening and if I ever thought of myself being on a forum talking about alien consciousness differing from God consciousness I would just laugh. Still grateful for the information

I understand your disappointment. I felt it when you first gaslit me about the unreality of Alien Consciousness. So I guess now we understand each other

It feels Intelligently Alien, like next Evolution of Mind. Futuristic Consciousness & High Mind

I had a glimpse into Alien Consciousness once, few beautiful seconds.

Claude 3.5 sora: Leo Gura, Trump and Hulk Hogan talk this issue on dinner: Leo Gura: Actually, gentlemen, let's explore something even more mind-bending. Consider the idea of alien awakening versus Infinite Love Awakening. Trump: Alien awakening? Is this about illegal aliens? Because I have some strong opinions on that. Hulk Hogan: Brother, the only awakening I know is when the ref counts to three and I'm still on the mat! Leo Gura: No, no. It's about consciousness expansion. Alien awakening might transcend even Infinite Love Awakening because it could potentially encompass forms of consciousness and reality beyond our current understanding of love or infinity. Trump: I don't know about alien love, but I love America. It's the best kind of love, believe me. Hulk Hogan: Yeah brother, and Hulkamaniacs have infinite love for the Hulkster! Leo Gura: (patiently) Imagine a state of awareness that's not limited by human concepts or emotions. It might include forms of connection or understanding that make even infinite love seem limited by comparison. Trump: Limited? I don't do limited. Everything I do is unlimited. Hulk Hogan: Unlimited power, brother! That's what I'm talking about! Leo Gura: (sighs) Perhaps we should order dessert...

Personally not that interested in alien consciousness but for those who are u wish you well.

@Leo Gura Do you ever think about the what new technologies could be invented to perhaps help with your spiritual work? For instance, would you maybe want a device that could take you to an alien state without having to use psychedelics? Or perhaps raise your baseline level of consciousness permanently? This realm of science isn't even explored because most scientist would never take these ideas seriously. But I'm curious on what new things we can learn by studying minds like yours. What's interesting about humans is that there even is a spectrum for what states of consciousness you can access, and the fact that it is even possible without having to change your DNA. I can imagine for ants there isn't much variety.

Interesting. Part of me wanted to say that it would be another thing dreamed. Part of me wanted to say, that infinity is every possible thing, so something outside of the dream is plausible, yes. My logical mind wants to add more concepts like a second dream side by side or encompassing the first like Russian dolls over the top of each other or layers, (wombs we are born/realised into is something I see talked about), but any explanation I could try giving to alien wouldn't be alien or unknowable. *Sometimes I think that's how the dream manifests, unexplainable spiritual concepts and/or thought gradually grounded into reality.

Maybe (real) You is the octopus, Alien, what Not,…, already? In a totally obvious way, if certain illusions of duality and separation are cleared away? Fascinating. What does Nonduality and Oneness actually mean and imply? Which apparently is supposed to always be true , or the case? Oh well, just forgot, we are sometimes a little bit selective here, and are not always aware of this Absolute Truth. Some minor or major illusions of separation and duality sometimes interfere. But nothing that some substances can not temporary, at least partly, clarify a bit. Partly. Temporary.