Musk tells Europeans “fight back or die”

[Joshe]

Sound familiar? He basically said the same thing in our 2024 election. 

Anyone have any good insight as to what in the actual fuck is going on with this guy? 

[BlueOak]

The man needs to be stopped. Causing violence in my country. Inciting violence is a crime, and trying to start mass violence is loathsome in the extreme.

He's acting as a terrorist at this point.

Edited yesterday at 08:52 AM by BlueOak

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, Joshe said:

Anyone have any good insight as to what in the actual fuck is going on with this guy? 

Corruption.

[Nercohype]

The free people must fight back against this Anti wokeism, Elon Muskrat and rightwingism 💪🏼☠️😤

[PurpleTree]

It’s so annoying when americans bring their bs and views to europe.

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

It’s so annoying when americans bring their bs and views to europe.

South African.

[PurpleTree]

57 minutes ago, Elliott said:

South African.

Musk has US citizenship. Also Vance, Trump, Bannon etc. are sometimes telling Europeans what they should do.

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

Musk has US citizenship. Also Vance, Trump, Bannon etc. are sometimes telling Europeans what they should do.

Ya, but it's not just Americans, Thiel is South African too, Murdoch is Australian.

Edited yesterday at 02:05 PM by Elliott

[Schizophonia]

He's right; the English must protect their culture, their very ethnic identity, and their security, which is at risk.

If you're not male like many here (no children, no business, dysthymic, so no consideration for culture and security...), you don't understand anything and are going to say "right wing gnegne."

Edited yesterday at 01:43 PM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, BlueOak said:

The man needs to be stopped. Causing violence in my country. Inciting violence is a crime, and trying to start mass violence is loathsome in the extreme.

He's acting as a terrorist at this point.

That's what I'm talking about; "the problem isn't the problems pushing people to the right, the problem is talking about them."
 

No different from far-right people who deny global warming or things like that.

Edited yesterday at 06:28 PM by Schizophonia

[BlueOak]

19 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

That's what I'm talking about; "the problem isn't the problems pushing people to the right, the problem is talking about them."
Mega coward logic.

No different from far-right people who deny global warming or things like that.

And where in the violence does the talking start @Schizophonia
And when have you never known me to talk about something?

Its not like I don't post reams of text on subjects and talk people's ear off.

Talking is not telling people to go and commit violence. That's a crime in the UK, I don't care what you think of it. And the person doing it is a terrorist. I thought the same of the Islamists doing it as I do as Musk. I thought the same of the opposing irish factions doing it as I do of Musk. I don't care what they call themselves, or what cause they wrap themselves up in.

Edited yesterday at 02:07 PM by BlueOak

[PurpleTree]

20 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

He's right; the English must protect their culture, their very ethnic identity, and their security, which is at risk.

If you're not male like many here (no children, no business, dysthymic, so no consideration for culture and security...), you don't understand anything and are going to say "right wing gnegne."

Is France also going to do the same thing? I was just in France came back yesterday. Some pain au chocolate you know what i mean? Nice. And Nice is nice too.

[Consept]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Corruption.

Its corruption but theres more at play, Musk I think has genuine beliefs about his bloodlines superiority or at least his own superiority. He has spoken about impregnating many women to avoid demographic collapse. So essentially he is a white supremacist and is trying to prevent something along the lines of the great replacement theory. 

Hes probably as close to a movie bad guy as you can get. A literal billionaire who's a white supremacist and has a victim complex. He is motivated to get as much money and power as he can, not for its own sake but to enact his ideology.

As someone born and raised in the uk I think its one of the most egregious things ive seen to have him a south african, American citizen, with his level of power and wealth, calling for violence in the uk. Imo this should not be allowed and if there is violence blood will be on his hands. 

 

[PurpleTree]

53 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Ya, but it's not just Americans, Thiel is South African too, Murdoch is Australian.

That’s true. Basically uber rich and driven men with twisted world views.

[Joshe]

3 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

That's what I'm talking about; "the problem isn't the problems pushing people to the right, the problem is talking about them."

You misunderstand the elements actually pushing people to the right. 

There are some legit problems with immigration. There’s nothing wrong with talking about those problems and seeking solutions. These problems could be dealt with in a way that is not violent, bigoted, and racist. So ask yourself, how come the problems aren’t being dealt with in that way? 

You’re conveniently ignoring two key aspects of the reality. 1: human nature and it’s susceptibility to propaganda and influence. 2: Trump, Musk, and their ilk have learned they can acquire enormous power by sowing division, and so they are actively stoking the flames of the culture wars for their own benefit. 

You have to include these two facets of reality in your overall estimation. It’s not as simple as “good, decent people are just responding naturally to a threat”. In this case, hateful sentiment has been nurtured for several years and effectively disseminated via influencers and propaganda. If you remove these aspects, the reality would be totally different. 

Edited yesterday at 05:45 PM by Joshe

[Joshe]

21 minutes ago, Consept said:

As someone born and raised in the uk I think its one of the most egregious things ive seen to have him a south african, American citizen, with his level of power and wealth, calling for violence in the uk. Imo this should not be allowed and if there is violence blood will be on his hands. 

Yes, absolutely disgusting. No one man should be able to run around and act like this. Doing it in one county is bad enough, but now he’s gonna go throughout the world trying to turn everyone to his way…. That’s insane. I mean, if he was spreading peace and helping people grow, I’d be all for it, but he’s spreading anger, fear, hate, grievance, and victim mentality. Worst part is he’s using unconscious humans as pawns.

[AION]

He is basically trying to export apartheid to different countries. And it is unfortunately he is from South Africa. 

[Twentyfirst]

5 hours ago, Elliott said:

South African.

The root of Elons racism. Him fighting back against migrants in EU is just a mental projection for his hatred towards Black people in SA because they won't allow themselves to be dominated like they used to in the past. "How dare these savages not let me enslave them don't they know how inferior they are to someone like me"

Edited yesterday at 05:22 PM by Twentyfirst

[Elliott]

Just now, Twentyfirst said:

The root of Elons racism. Him fighting back against migrants in EU is just a mental projection for his hatred towards Blacks in SA

The conditioning is strong in Musk.

[Scholar]

1 minute ago, Twentyfirst said:

The root of Elons racism. Him fighting back against migrants in EU is just a mental projection for his hatred towards Black people in SA because they won't allow themselves to be dominated like they used to in the past 

I think this is a bit of a carricature of what racism is in the 21st century.

It's not about hatred, it's about genuine fear. Have the maturity to recognize that people aren't evil for no reason. People use social media, they are confronted with one terrible case of a migrant doing something bad after the other, and at some point they build a mental model that makes them scared.

This is no different from police violence in the US. Most police interactions go perfectly fine, but because there are so many police interactions, and therefore so many are bound to end in disaster because of incompetency, malice or simply dangerous situations, people develop a completely distorted image of what the police is. Then they call for things like defunding the police, irraitonal policies that do nothing to mitigate anything.

 

You have to realize that today is a time of fear and moral outrage. People are shown the negative effects of various social policies or groups, and their view gets distorted over time. And even when it is not distorted, it becomes defined by fear, which opens the path to hatred.