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Why does he say that there is no reincarnation? I think it is because he is focused on the perspective of formlessness/awareness, where it alone is the ultimate truth, and from that perspective he has built his belief system. This type of spiritual teaching is powerful and has helped a lot of people evolve, but it can also be seen as limiting because it invalidates a lot of powerful truths and teachings that could also benefit someone. It's a beautiful web you are spinning, but I will not get stuck in it We can understand and integrate the essence of your teachings without copying your beliefs. Will you create videos with energy/shaktipat? That would be interesting!
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Bodhitree replied to Phyllis Wagner's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
On Eckhart Tolle. It’s possible that there is something to reincarnation and that it takes several lifetimes to become enlightened. You don’t know what path Eckhart walked to get where he arrived. Also, effort does not necessarily get you anywhere. There is a Zen story, a young man visited a Zen master and asked him, if I become a monk how long will it take me to become enlightened? Ten years, replied the Zen master. And if I really work hard at it? Twenty years. I’ve heard the proces of enlightenment being compared to relaxing a fist that has been held tightly clenched for so long that it refuses to open on its own. It’s not about effort, it is about achieving a natural state of quiet, ease, understanding and relaxed surrender. And then you wait... it’s not you who does this, there is a grace associated with it. -
I mean Leo explained death as the ultimate spiritual death where you explode into infinity. but what about reincarnation? why didn't Leo talk about that? is not what will happen in most case scenarios? or did I just not watch the whole video? I am not sure actually. Connor offers some nice explanation for reincarnation in the images below.
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GreenLight replied to GreenLight's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah, have even watch my physical body on another occasion. There were some individuals that caused this. Leaving the body felt like the lightest thing i could do in the universe. I could see and hear as if all senses became one. My functioning went from 60-70 procentile to 100. I saw my body. It was completely impersonal. A small rock on the asfalt was more personal to me than that body. It also emanated a greyish and somewhat darker energy than the surroundings. Like they say "low vibration" in the spiritual community or something like that. It is part of the path to experience it this way. Much easier to dissidentify from the body and harder to convince oneself again when you have seen that you are not it but have one. Had a satori moment before this happened. Spent a huge time training the WILL after that and penetrated the ego with the WILL until it shattered. Then i penetrated the solidified pain in the solar plexus and in the neck. Integrated the energetic pain from there so to allow the kundalini rise from the hearth into the brain in order to become its ruler. Had this energy rised into the middle between the brows last summer. A whole new sunny field of appreciation opened up in my perception. All possible perspectives became one. I looked at a house with appreciation as i was the man that painted it. I appreciated the curvature of the road as if i was an architect that planned it. I felt the appreciation to go home to meet a wife as if i was in 1960. Looked at the sea and everything was very vibrant and i was everyting and everyone that could be imagined. This lasted for an hour until the energy went lowered back into the head. I think these experiences are just a byproduct of this process. Had many more of them. Seems to be much easier having it. A dimension I forgot to mention that not only the kundalini is causing the particle release but there is something extremely fast that rotates subtly around my body that is also the case for this release process. As i understand these particles are called Skandhas . When we die these particles are left in the earthly atmosphere while the individual is resting in devachan. They act as karmic agents and bring back the individual into a reincarnation cycle. They attach gradually to the new body and build up the present personality of the individual throughout its life. The more i consume these particles the less of a chanse i would come back into earths physical atmosphere again. That is atleast in my theory and i am not sure how close to reality it is. As i have nothing to do here anymore and hopefully most lessons are learned already. -
Suicide is selfish, therefore you can only die and go to Unity as opposed to reincarnation when you least expect it.
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knakoo replied to knakoo's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you for the insightful answer ! I found a video on this topic that I thought was absolutely fascinating. It describes the 7 densities of consciousness and reincarnation cycle from the book the Law of One (RA material). I would love to know what some of you guys think of this video ! -
Bando replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This brings up the question of reincarnation, when we die wouldn't our consciousness just manifest into another life form? Some spiritual circles correlate reincarnation only to human life but out the trillions of galaxies there must be many other forms we can come back to, trippy.... -
I'm scared shitless of death.... .. Even tho.. after doing insane amounts of contemplation.. I found that death is not even a fact lol(yeah whatever) I really couldn't find a single evidence that death is real .. But that's more on the back burner there is this ultimate fear. The kicker is of course.. You have not the first clue what's going to happen after death.. The body seems to die. What goes on after that?.?? Nobody knows. Sweet... And life is short you know.. 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, years max and ba bye. How to overcome fear of death? Let me say given that.. Death itself is unknown (or known, I don't even know lol)(this is a consequence of Leo's mantra "death is imaginary" .. And what's afterwards is unknown (if lay aside religious stories and philosophical speculation). Hands down.. Reincarnation.. Nothingness.. Heaven and hell realms etc are nothing but beautiful beliefs.
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Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Of course not knowing can sometimes be extremely fear-triggering. Think about finding yourself in a place or a house and you know absolutely nothing about it.. . You would be afraid until you can get certain about where you are and who brought you there and so forth. And it happened a lot during one's life where you are forced to deal with uncertainty.. It feels uncomfortable.. Those the rare occasion when everyone’s life gets sideswiped and we are forced to sit in a vast uncertainty for an extended period of time. How deadly is the virus? (Corona) We don’t know. How long will this last? No idea. Are the drastic social precautions worth it? Maybe—maybe not. Are there effective treatments? Perhaps. Also perhaps not. Is the virus influenced by the weather.. by genetics.. by geography? Probably.. maybe.. and.. uh… shrug? Most scenarios (from what you presented) seem to trigger some sort of fear.. For example the idea of hell seems to cause existential crisis when reflected upon long enough. The idea of eternal annihilation seems to drive me crazy.. The idea of eternal life via reincarnation seems to equal eternal suffering. Etc. It seems like whatever is gonna happen causes some anxiety. And once again the kicker is you don't even know. You are completely clueless. You will only know when you die. In a sense yes.. You could say I know nothing. But there is a difference..at some level.. Experiencing something =knowing it. I have experienced this world.. So it can be said that I know about It at some level. But I have no experience of death.. It's completely unknown.. As I mentioned in OP.. You can even get skeptical about whether death is even real. -
Adamq8 replied to bastih's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Since it is the same thing looking through all of our eyes and there is only the one Subject i would say that an identity/person cant possibly remember a previous life since the person in every experience is just the awareness appearing as that and forgetting its true nature since that it the only way creation can happen, a subject/object split must happend but you are the subject and the object. So ofcourse reincarnation is true in that way but in no way would an ego remember a previous life cause the ego is a function of awareness but is an illusion nevertheless. Awareness is infinite appearing as different finite things -
Hi Leo I believe it's hard to find many good sources to learn about really advanced spirituality stiff, like psychic abilities such as astral projection I've heard some people even had theire awakening when they had a astral projection experience or subjects like parallel universes, reincarnation, past lives these topics seem to be important and very interesting but it's really hard to find good teachers who explain it well.
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Preety_India replied to Stomatopod's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
This dude has a lot of toxic stuff in his obituary not gonna lie. He needed karma cleansing. His reincarnation will be filled with guilt as per Hindu tradition. -
Thought Art replied to intotheblack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
She also claims to be the reincarnation of a great yogi sage lol -
zeroISinfinity replied to Eren Eeager's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@cetustold me that eating taco is the same. Have question regarding self realization and reincarnation. Why you are not allowed new dream if you obviously to really achieve it for sure you are not attached or even interested to keep this one going on. Despite everything self realization brings. Should be allowed and rewarded with mahasamadhi if I am not interested in any dream ever again. Should have that right. -
Nahm replied to Eren Eeager's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
?? @Eren Eeager There aren’t “separate selves”, and stories about individual selves therefore will not do. There is reincarnation, but it can not be explained. Only self realization will do. -
allislove replied to Eren Eeager's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
?? @Eren Eeager Reincarnation, souls, densities are all mechanics of the movie (take it with a grain of salt since there wasn't any verification in the direct experience on this side, there is just openness for such ideas, since life is a miracle). The illusion of death, who are you, is pointing to the screen. Everything comes & go, but you are always here & now, you can't disappear, not possible. That's where the end of suffering lies. There is only screen. Peace. -
Ernest Werbel replied to Ernest Werbel's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you for your thoughtful replies. This is a lot to take in. I guess, a different way to put it, would be what was the first iteration of the universe? If the reincarnation cycle is endless -- whether that applies to an individual or the universe, seems to make no difference from what I gather, because Godhead includes all of it. I can understand conceptually counting from zero to infinity. That we may be experiencing "Universe # 5,928,212" but at some point there had to have been a "Universe Zero" when it all began. How can it have no starting point? And what caused Godhead to attain or create its own consciousness? Or is it because with each 'end' all dualities collapse and so there is no distinction between end and beginning. I feel that that would still fail to describe what the cause of the then rebirth of dualities. My head is exploding! -
Bacher replied to Bacher's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I can relate very much. I've been thinking the same about serving my purpose and avoiding reincarnation. This illusion isnt worth it! -
Valwyndir replied to actualizing25's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Don't aim to get rid of your biases. Aim to become aware of your biases. Don't shy away from the ego. Observe the ego. 1) From one perspective, no or God wouldn't be infinite. From another perspective, yes because right now is God in its entirety. The best answer lies within the realization that both perspectives are neither true nor false. 2) Well, have you ever experienced any other experience outside of the human experience? To say an "experience" of an ant even exists would be quite the assumption. Many people assume that because God is infinite, God will "experience" everything. Well of course God could not experience everything due to the limits that God imposes upon itself in order to create a physical reality. God cannot experience an infinite amount of experiences in time. This is not a flaw but simply a cost of its creation. It's analogous to God not being able to create a square circle. By the "law" of a square, it cannot be a circle. By the "law" of time, God cannot experience infinite experiences even with infinite time. Literally a quadrillion ants are born every year and that's just in this reality. Theoretically there could be infinite realities with an infinite amount of ant lives. If God just focused on experiencing ants, it could never experience anything else, even with infinite time, because the infinite ant reincarnation cycle would never end. This is simply the limit of time. This is why it's more accurate to say that God is neither finite nor infinite (or both finite and infinite). You are experiencing being a human for a reason. -
Someone here replied to Someone here's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@VeganAwake ..Your kids are not a concept.. They are not a "conditioned thought".. They are not "the mind running rampant".... They are Absolute Truth. So-called perception or sensory experience (your five-sensed experience of a 3D world. Nothing fancy)... turns out to be the only absolute Truth. You know what that means? It means it's certainly True. It's certainly existing. That's all. I'm not making a huge discovery here. Truth turns out to be the most obvious thing ever. Which is precisely why it goes overlooked and filterd out. While whatever conceptual knowledge one might have (reincarnation.. No self.. This.. That etc) are not the Truth in the sense that they are uncertain by nature. Because they are just ideas and speculation. Easy enough? -
Mason Riggle replied to kieranperez's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
"There are, of course, good reasons for scientists to be materialist, neo-Darwinian, and reductionist. However, science entails none of those commitments, nor do they entail one another. If there were evidence for dualism (immaterial souls, reincarnation), one could be a scientist without being a materialist. As it happens, the evidence here is extraordinarily thin, so virtually all scientists are materialists of some sort. If there were evidence against evolution by natural selection, one could be a scientific materialist without being a neo-Darwinist. But as it happens, the general framework put forward by Darwin is as well established as any other in science. If there were evidence that complex systems produced phenomena that cannot be understood in terms of their constituent parts, it would be possible to be a neo-Darwinist without being a reductionist. For all practical purposes, that is where most scientists find themselves, because every branch of science beyond physics must resort to concepts that cannot be understood merely in terms of particles and fields. Many of us have had “philosophical” debates about what to make of this explanatory impasse. Does the fact that we cannot predict the behavior of chickens or fledgling democracies on the basis of quantum mechanics mean that those higher-level phenomena are something other than their underlying physics? I would vote “no” here, but that doesn’t mean I envision a time when we will use only the nouns and verbs of physics to describe the world. But even if one thinks that the human mind is entirely the product of physics, the reality of consciousness becomes no less wondrous, and the difference between happiness and suffering no less important. Nor does such a view suggest that we will ever find the emergence of mind from matter fully intelligible; consciousness may always seem like a miracle. In philosophical circles, this is known as “the hard problem of consciousness”—some of us agree that this problem exists, some of us don’t. Should consciousness prove conceptually irreducible, remaining the mysterious ground for all we can conceivably experience or value, the rest of the scientific worldview would remain perfectly intact. The remedy for all this confusion is simple: We must abandon the idea that science is distinct from the rest of human rationality. When you are adhering to the highest standards of logic and evidence, you are thinking scientifically. And when you’re not, you’re not. " - Sam Harris "I quote John Lennon, 'I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me.' Good point there. After all, he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people.” - Ferris Bueller -
@BornToBoil suicide is essentially in most cases a refusal to take the responsibility of living out your life through the karmic debts and spiritual lessons that beset you. Reincarnation can be validated in your direct experience if you have an experience of infinite consciousness and omniscience, which can be obtained through what Leo teaches. When you refuse to live out the circumstances of your karma, you end up reincarnating in very similar circumstances because the spiritual growth that was designed for you by God and Karma did not take place, so you're just kicking the can down the road. Why not live out your self actualized life purpose here and now? and then be ultimately liberated from reincarnation?
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ivankiss replied to Eren Eeager's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I find it quite sad. Then again; I was there too; for a brief moment. Its a phase. Spiritual puberty. Maturity is when you realize there is nothing to leave behind. Nothing to look down on. Everything is here to be met with love. I fucking love my personality. My uniqueness. My likes and dislikes. Quirks and features. Flaws and shortcomings. Thank God I am who I am. I'd trade it for nothing else. I'm grateful for my past. Even the pain I've endured. I look forward to the future. If reincarnation is real; I'm coming back as Ivan. Is that ego? Maybe, yes. But it's an ego that knows its place and is being loved and respected. It does not try to outfuck itself. You'd be surprised how easily it lets go when you just let it be. -
BipolarGrowth replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@PopoyeSailor https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-near-death-experiences-reveal-about-the-brain/ This covers the materialist view/partial explanation of NDEs. You’re thinking on the right track for providing something we can work with to potentially disprove the idea of the brain generating consciousness. So far, no one else in this thread has brought up anything but theory about consciousness which I’m well aware of and have experienced what they describe firsthand. None of that solves anything. This line of inquiry could. Have you seen any verified accounts of any of these events happening when brain activity is completely gone? If consciousness is generated by the brain, this does not mean that modern-day materialists are at all correct about the full capabilities of the human system and brain. I have personal experiences of telepathy, the teleportation of small objects, potential alteration of space and time, and quite a few other things 99%+ of materialists or scientists would claim are completely impossible. Even many spiritual people doubt the legitimacy of such experiences. With the reincarnation example, if we’re trying to explain this within the brain generating consciousness paradigm, all we need is a link existing between brains. This could certainly be possible. How exactly? Idk. We already know that time and space do not exist from the perspective of light. We also know quantum particles can interact with each other instantly across vast distances. It’s within the realm of possibility that brains can access reality in a similar way. Of course this is all speculation. I never claimed to be able to explain how the brain does any of this. I don’t think any single human being or even group of human beings knows exactly how the brain works when firing on all cylinders. -
PopoyeSailor replied to BipolarGrowth's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If brain creates consciousness, then the senses of the body must also be limited by the brain itself. Then, why is it that People who have a NDE(Near Death Experience) sometimes accurately describe events that had happened far away from their body when they flatlined on the hospital table. How come Yogis able to to Parakaya Pravesha(Entering into another body through Pranic airs). How come people read other's minds that are far away? During a kundalini awakening, a youtuber described seeing through walls. How do you explain various reincarnation stories of children, being born with wound marks on their body, with the memory of dying because of traumatic injury at the wound mark area in their previous life? Which when verified, turns out to be true. Also CIA has released documents of experiments that they conducted which clearly talks about these phenomena. In those reports it was observed and concluded to be real by scientists as well.