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According to Richard Schwartz, who channeled Jesus and works in the field of past life regression hypnosis therapy, we plan our Life and our biggest challenges before being born. There is not just a Plan A but many. Plan B, Plan C,... The question "What would Love do?" Guides you towards the best plan.Many times the plan doesn't really work out due to free will and reincarnation occurs. We choose our parents and our names. This whole deep suffering thing remains mysterious, albeit it might aid the Soul in purification and Karma Balance which are two of its Ultimate goals. [Yesterday I read about Junko Furata's abduction from around 30 years ago, her last 44 days of existence consisted of literal torture, beatings, being burned alive serveral times, gang raped etc, so it's really questionable how one could ever agree to such.. or think of the holocaust] Not too sure what to make of the Soul council and stuff. I am almost convinced that Death will lead to instantaneous reincarnation, from this perspective anyways, unless you are like super spiritual and highly developed. Wish I had access to psychic people who could do some channeling in this regard for me
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happyhappy replied to happyhappy's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
hahaha at least their flag is! true true, AI & VR will spawn up a host of questions for those who are willing to question. I hope the evolution is headed there . sad we won't be there huh? what if we get reincarnated back in to medieval times if reincarnation exists lol.. -
Guru Peter Jordanson replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is a good question. Somehow someday this belief in reincarnation entered my mind without me even noticing that it happened. Never did i even contemplate and just uncousciously accepted it as a fact. There is this occult idea that when we hear a Truth then this will glue itself into ones own mind until it is accepted. At some level it might be a Truth but we are still all one in the end. -
Carl-Richard replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The thing that is reincarnated is the illusory identification with form (self-identity). You reincarnate every time you think a self-referential thought. That is why enlightenment is the end of reincarnation. You realize that both past life memories and current life memories are illusory. -
Breakingthewall replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Exactly. how important is reincarnation? One of the most important things that you realize with spirituality is to live in the present, to realize that the past is dead, it does not really exist. You are what you are today, nothing more, nothing less. what you were yesterday is imaginary, ego, what you were in your childhood, even more so. what were you in another life? delirium. only now you are, only now exists -
roopepa replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Take a moment to think if you would actually want that. Think about how radically it would change your life and thought patterns if Consilience would actually demonstrate that here and now. What comes to telepathy, reincarnation and such... It's a total game changer. When you actually remember your past life, just as you remember your childhood right now, and when you actually glimpse psychic phenomena directly, beyond any doubt, it's not a joke. It's real. Not some debate subject on the internet. -
Consilience replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It’s not the state itself that is anymore valid or not valid. It’s the obliteration of the ego mind’s interpretative mechanisms that allows one to see direct experience in a new way. Yes the content of direct experience is radically augmented on DMT, but specifically, one’s relationship to direct experience also shifts. Such a radical shift in one’s relationship to experience creates the possibility of insight into the nature of experience typically unavailable due to the highly biased, conceptually marred and tangled mess that is the ego mind. From this new space of direct observation (rather than biased ego mind interpretation), whether from a high dose DMT trip or rigorous meditation, insights into the nature of life or death can arise. One may see that nothing is actually dying upon physical death and just as profound, nothing was actually born to give rise to “life.” “Life” is nothing but an enormous, interconnected flow of experience; to believe this flow is somehow contingent upon the physical body is a misperception of direct experience originating from the faulty perceptions of ego mind. This ego mind being highly biased due to the fear of death and pain, addictions to pleasure of various kinds, and essentially addicted to the web of conceptual activity giving rise to suffering. The extent of this conceptual bias is unimaginably enormous, often not taken seriously until one has it ripped away either through psychedelics or high level meditation. Once the biased conceptual activity is released, one begins to observe direct experience more objectively. Through such objectivity, the actuality of what models of reincarnation point towards become increasingly clear. To reiterate, this objective observation is not about changing the content of one’s experience (“how is a DMT trip more valid?” is a misunderstanding of the true value of DMT trips), but the context in which experience is experienced. Such recontextualizations provided by DMT are completely independent of the contents of DMT. Until such objective observation of direct experience is seen, it is unlikely reincarnation will make sense, even conceptually. The real treasure, as it has always been, is the experience, or the truth. -
sholomar replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My grandmother was an atheist when she had her near death experience. She was told it was not her time, she had 4 children to raise (my mother and aunts, uncle) I remain skeptical but with an open mind. I've read the journey of souls series of books. I mean if you believe in universal consciousness, oneness, non duality, and don't just believe that a trip with DMT is due to chemical reactions in the brain, it's not a logical next step to then believe in the soul and the concept of reincarnation. Why would a DMT trip be any more valid as far as the truths you would acquire? -
Consilience replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It actually isn't about a self being preserved in a soul and leaving the body. It's about the actuality of one's direct experience, which is that experience rises and falls moment by moment by moment. Moreover, this rising and falling exists independently of the physical body which can be verified by 1) observing there is no physical body through extremely high levels of mindfulness, 2) observing the arising and passing of experiences in dream states where there is no body, or 3) taking psychedelics in which all experiential evidence of the body ceases. In any event, experience arises independently of the physical body and there is no separate self. Reincarnation, therefore, would simply be the continuation of this arising and falling of experience, moment by moment, within a seemingly new set of conditions. Yet even the distinction between sets of conditions that would give rise to the illusion of one self dying and a new self being born through the continuation of some kind of "soul" is itself empty. The idea that incarnation is a one and done deal is actually more aligned to the false perception of a separate self, however this relationship is so deeply hard-wired, most will not see it, even those that buy into the idea of reincarnation or those who have seen the illusion of self. -
Guest replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@lmfao So you do believe in a moment of death in which this apparent form will change into something different? Then you believe in reincarnation, my friend. -
Consilience replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Do you recognize that the idea that there isn't reincarnation takes just as much, if not more inference than the idea of reincarnation? Again, "incarnation" is already proved to have happened once. Seriously inquire, why wouldn't it happen again? If we know it can happen (your life is living proof of the possibility of incarnation), what possible reasoning could you use to assert it won't happen again? In many ways, reincarnation takes less faith or inference than the idea that physical death is the permanent end. -
Gesundheit2 replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It mostly comes with the new-age religion as a one package deal. A few, however, claim to have experienced it. And while I don't necessarily deny that, I still doubt the interpretations they give of what they actually experienced. I think most people who reach these experiences necessarily lack the proper metaphysical or even just logical foundation to ground their interpretations in. Most of the times the interpretations are flimsy and vague. Materialism on the other hand does not deny reincarnation. This is clear in genetics, but not exclusive to it. But what materialism denies is the concept of a soul that gets incarcerated to begin with. In a sense, it seems materialism has reached non-duality in this specific matter. -
Khan 0 replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You never born in first place realization of that is nirvana. Did you have any idea what was reincarnation before this so called life? -
KatiesKarma replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Reading Lsd and the Mind of the Universe right now, he takes reincarnation as a basic fact of nature. Then he goes on to talk about the Elderly Council and all this elaborate stuff that to me seems like nonsense because even if it were "true" (this kind of elaborate afterlife with soul groups and whatnot), it's like "you" will never really remember it (for long enough) so basically it doesn't exist or carries no relevancy, and we are always stuck in this oh so perfect reality. -
Michal__ replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Good question. Try to look at a post talking about reincarnation and ask yourself "how do they know?" "If they don't know - Are they aware it's just an assumption?" "If they are aware that it's just an assumption - why would they write what they wrote? Are they actually contemplating or just mentally masturbating?" Besides - if you can prove that you can't ever really die you still don't know whether the next experience will be a "reincarnation" similar to this one or if it's gonna be some sort of stage-blue-like heaven/hell or some crazy unimaginable shit. Astral projection can't really prove it either - I've had very intense, insane experiences of "other realms" - can't really know if it's relevant to what will come after this life. You can become conscious of whether the dreams you have at night are as real as this reality - while dreaming "normal reality" is just a concept similar to how now "a memory of the dreams I have at night" is just a thought / concept happening in my mind (nothing wrong with thoughts just it's not the same as experience through other sense doors). I don't really know whether reincarnation is real. I'd be just assuming so. I haven't even realized whether it's possible to die or not. But I've had some nice experiences of "other realms" as I said above. Always assume everything you say / anyone else says is full of shit. -
RickyFitts replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For me personally, it's a couple of things: 1) Two spiritual teachers I have a lot of respect for, the Buddha and Adyashanti, have talked about how they saw many of their past lives after they became enlightened; and 2) I've been told about many of my own past lives by two people I trust and have a lot of respect for. So I tend to believe in reincarnation, though I can't say that I know that it's a fact. I don't think it's especially important, either, I think life is all about this moment, right now, and obsessing about past lives can become just another distraction from what's really important. -
JuliusCaesar replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In an absolute sense, of course reincarnation is nonsense. Just as for example, rape is nonsense and impossible. Because we are all one and thus all have one will. So if one of us wills something, we all will it. And since you can't rape the willing, a logical consequence of that is that rape is utterly impossible. Likewise, reincarnation is also impossible because we're one(whereas reincarnation requires us to be many). But notice the perspective that believes in rape has relative validity because we're in a dream that depends on duality. Likewise, reincarnation may be valid in a relative sense, but it ultimately has to be nonsense. Because after all, if reincarnation is a real experience that just means it's something we're imagining anyway(just like all of reality). -
Khan 0 replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ego=Life=Death=Reincarnation=Thought=Knowing=Learning. God=Not knowing. -
Breakingthewall replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Everything indicates that human life is a learning process. reincarnation would be the logical step to complete the process. this is not to say that none of this is true, but it seems -
happyhappy replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
my stage yellow understanding of this, Dr. Ian Stevenson's work! he has spent his entire life scientifically documenting those who claimed past lives. and many near death experiences (NDE) reveal something about this model. and there are new-agey folks who make a living by reading past lives of people! coming on to spirituality, even Leo though not suggested directly, alludes to the past lives model in many videos. Osho and Sadhguru frankly claims this is to be the case! Eckhart Tolle also hints on reincarnation. There's Buddhist model of rebirth and karma .it is very similar to reincarnation in Hinduism and ,Jainism. Sikhism also adopts the past lives model .In Jewish mysticism, the concept of reincarnation appears on kabbalah. there is also historical evidence which says that even Jesus taught reincarnation ,whereas these teachings were banned and bibles rewritten later on. maybe , these were independent findings. it is very possible that all the masters of religions came to the same conclusions after their own findings! even after all those evidence, yess it will still be hearsay as long as we have it in our direct experience! -
RMQualtrough replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No reincarnation. Just incarnation. Check it - a baby was just born, guess who the baby is? It's us, suckaaaa. -
Guest replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
All that "reincarnation" means is change of form after (supposed) death. That's it. So either there will be a change of this apparent form at some point, or there won't. What do you think? (And if your answer is that future, change and form are nothing but mental concepts, you get an extra cookie for being a good nondual boyscout. ) -
Consilience replied to lmfao's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
At the most basic level, if a dream popped up once, why couldn't it happen again? I mean seriously... What is more likely, the 0.00000000(to infinity)1% chance that you managed to spring into existence and it's a one and done deal, or that the same mechanism where you spontaneously appeared could happen again? There's also apparently objective data giving authority to the idea of reincarnation - children recalling specific details of past lives, or how their last life ended and the researchers being able to verify that information. Overall, my thinking is why wouldn't it happen again if it already happened once? At a higher level, there is no reincarnation. The flow of experience just flows. To suggest there was ever a "life" that was "incarnated" to begin with is a misperception of perception. Therefore, when the physical body dies, this says nothing about the flow of experience already present and the fact that this flow of experience is utterly independent of the physical body. Nothing actually dies, just changes. -
happyhappy replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
soooo, why is he still not addressing the stuff in Buddhism like karma and reincarnation the way Buddha and Hindu sages did. he seems to be offering slight hints at this but still keeps away from going to details..?any reasons why ? -
CuriousityIsKey replied to CuriousityIsKey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ye, the Difference is though, Hinduism celebrates life , but Buddha wanted to wake up from the cycle of reincarnation once and for all.
