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Noo, nothing like that. The first implies a process (which there's none), and the second implies control over Will (which there's also none). Moreso this. I (as God) am creating this right now. In fact, I am this. There is no difference between me and it. Oh what joy! You = God = Imagination = Reality. A complete blending of the infinite nothingness/awareness/formlessness and form.

Yeah, like Inliytened already said, what's lacking to me is "I am God"... unless you insist that you're in a selfhood state right now and don't want to say something "ingenuine" right now? I don't know. God is in everything, God is in X, God is outside Y seems really dualistic to me. "God knows everything" also sounds weird, perhaps you can elaborate. I don't agree that this is illusion. And I don't agree that God is "beyond" physical experience. I'm thinking more about it and this "where is other?" question is actually quite a good pointer, if you understand it. I don't agree that "Avatars are concerned with what you can see, smell, touch, hear, feel". There is (or actually isn't) self, which is illusory, and then there is CONSCIOUSNESS. The "self" doesn't actually interact with anything and it's only concerned about "itself" - it's basically a state. Then, even in a self-less state, senses are experienced. Consciousness experiences itself, which includes senses. From the POV of consciousness, everything is the same; there is no "avatar" and "other avatars". But perceptions and senses are still the case (and also aren't distinct from everything else). The witness/nothingness/awareness and experience are completely one. Nothing is everything, and vice versa. And You are it (not the ego - the "real" you).

I pretty much agree with everything in this video. Yes, there is only one Dreamer*. Yes, for all intents and purposes, you should act as if there are others - this is right behaviour. I also said this before, which this guy repeats when he says that there are "egos" once you yourself see yourself as "an ego": Yes, there is ONLY Pure Awareness, which the guy states. ONE Experience, ONE Consciousness, ONE DREAM. So what the fuck is the problem? *However, I also agree with @Inliytened1 here. In fact, this is my most recent awakening. That the witness/dreamer/nothingness/awareness is the exact same as what's being perceived. There's no dreamer and observed reality. It's more like reality seeing itself. A complete oneness of formlessness and form. One "thing" witnessing itself, no duality whatsoever. God.

Not to leak too much personal info, but I once I had a client with Diogenes Syndrome. She’s in her early 30s. She has 3 apartments full of stuff to the top. After 6 hours of conversation, turns out that she was sexually abused at birth, which she actually could remember. She told me she remembered that her consciousness withdrew into pure nothingness, and she observed what was happening to her “from the outside.”, like a 3rd person perspective. She completely detached from her body. So we concluded that what happened is that her mind then created a negative association with nothingness (that “place” she found herself in during that traumatic experience), which resulted in a fear of “nothingness” (look up “kenophobia or nihilophobia”), and then she got into the habit of compulsively filling out any kind of emptiness with “stuff,” to run away from “nothing.” She filled physical emptiness with objects (and every object had a special meaning or story her mind would hold onto, to escape the absence of meaning of the objects), contributing to the compulsive hoarding. She escaped loneliness (emptiness of company) with 8 simultaneous relationships. She filled her mind with consistent, endless thoughts (what she called “ADHD”). She filled silence in conversations with endless talking. So she had to do progressive desensitisation with nothingness, break the belief that “nothing” is bad (CBT type stuff , and embrace and love “nothingness.” Two decades of therapists couldn’t help her. To this day, the most fascinating client I’ve had. When you merge proper metaphysics and spirituality with psychology, everything clicks so beautifully. She’s also fully God-awake 24/7. She speaks about all the stuff Leo speaks about from direct experience (and so much more). Our first two sessions were 6½-hour long because of how fascinated I was and how much she was getting out of it. Pretty ridiculous looking back, actually. I’m actually going to meet her in person because of how unique she is. Leo would love to interview her lol Bonus; chech out Apeirophobia, the Fear of Infinity, Sigephobia, fear of Silence or Chronophobia, the fear of the passage of time.

Consciousness as a whole is Undefined, since there is nothing to define it with/against. So it defines itself, in other words it's whatever you define it to be. It's no coincidence that the more of a blanket term you apply to Consciousness, the more accurate it gets, hence we also call it Infinity, God, Nothingness, etc.; but words will fail rather quickly so you'll have to drop them. This will all seem like self-contradictory nonsense until you get very comfortable with twisted, paradoxical thinking, which is one of the abilities of higher consciousness. Doing so requires going beyond causation, reason, language, sanity... There awaits absolute logic that resolves all contradiction, as there is no contradiction in self-definition. A ∧ ¬A is not only perfectly consistent, but necessary. 'Conscious' and 'aware' can often be used interchangeably, but not always. For instance, you can be aware of all the gossip and scheming going on at your workplace, but that doesn't make you any more conscious; neither is an animal with spatial awareness several orders of magnitude better than human more conscious than you. One can even be aware that what they're doing is wrong, but not be conscious of why it is so. Consciousness is more like self-awareness, it is not contingent on surroundings, information, knowledge, sensations (as in Ibn Sina's floating man thought experiment); higher consciousness simply means raising your self-awareness until you're fully aware that you are reality itself. Becoming more loving, truthful, present, etc. are merely consequences of this realization. A person can be "made aware" (of something, like a fact), but cannot be made conscious, only be/become conscious, i.e. it's an act only you are capable of. I can bring to your awareness that Google search and everyone replying to this thread are projections of your mind that you're using to teach stuff to yourself; however this doesn't mean you'll be capable of accepting that, and even if you were, unless you become directly conscious of it, that'll just be a belief.

@Eterno It's a deep human confrontation with impermanence, where the mind creates an ego to shield itself from the terrifying idea of ceasing to exist. Most people suppress their existential anxiety that comes with being a conscious entity aware of it’s own nothingness. Most people distract themselves in the futile attempt to mask the truth. The truth that cannot be covered with a bandaid. most people refuse to accept the real truth , and thus seek out God to assuage their existential pain. My God, why have you forsaken me. And God remained forever silent on the matter.

@Eterno Watching this video might help you understand something about your terror. What if your deepest anxiety has no object? What if the dread you feel at 3am isn't about anything in particular—not failure, rejection, or danger—but about the very structure of existence itself? Explore the anxiety that emerges when you face your own freedom, your own nothingness, your own radical responsibility to create yourself in a universe that provides no guidance.

These two contradict each other. I had to refresh my memory with both to write this correctly. So if I got something wrong by all means correct me. Pyrrhonism is all about lack of judgement. Was this decision right? I don’t know. Was it wrong? I don’t know. The lack of moral ground leaves room for inner peace. This can go meta though. Lets take “observing the mind”. The pyrrhonist sees the “mind”, observes it, but doesn’t hold the position as “observer” being neither true or false. It’s skeptical right. So any statements about observing, Nothingness, God, what have you cannot be proven or disproven. Direct experience does not equal truth. Yellow starts similar. It agrees that no moral judgement is “true” or the right or wrong one perse. It all depends on what leads to integration. How can we make the whole system function? Whatever leads to big picture understanding becomes important. We start thinking in layers instead of taking “no position”. This serves a purpose according to Yellow. I am making this post because I personally want to understand it better. How does Yellow view Pyrrhonism? When do we use which to develop ourselves beyond?

The consciousness is conscious of nothingness, but saying that there's no one to have an experience is very bold. You cannot know that.

Death will be exactly like your experience before birth. There was not even a perceiver to perceive nothingness. At first glance, this can seem scary. Until you realize that if nothing can be known on either side, the only thing that can be known is in-between. So the in-between is all that can be known - all that can exist. In other words, you must exist, because it's impossible to know non-existence.

Female genitalia is a womb, a void, a dark space. Dark space is nothingness, it is the soil on which everything can grow and be created. INFINITE potential. This is literally the most powerful thing. Without it, there is no life. If the womb creates life, then the breasts feed it. There is so much power in the feminine, given by nature. You can build the most technologically advanced city, but without mothers giving birth, it is pointless. It is a ghost city. Just because men are taller and more muscular does not mean that they are entitled to control women. The natural purpose of the male physique is to be an aid to the life created, not those who destroy it. Patriarchy is not the basic social organization, it is unnatural. It opposes nature. It fights against it. It creates artificial hierarchy and suffering. It is fueled by insecurity and fragile egos rather than truth, love, and wisdom. Natural social organization does not oppose nature the way patriarchy does. It does not destroy it. It lives in alignment with nature. It does not create poverty, it does not rape women and children, and it does not protect male superiority at the expense of anything valuable. Men who like submissive women are usually insecure and have fragile egos. They hate femininity, because they have indoctrinated under patriarchy to hate it. They can only accept femininity when it's castrated, non intimidating to their ego. NPC type patriarchy constricted femininity. Which is actually masculinity in disguise. Men gladly obey other men, even if those men are morally corrupt and delusional. Men obey patriarchy and never deconstruct it, even if it kills them. This is the highest level of obedience. It is foolishness.

My problem is mostly with the terminology, rather than Dream (which is a totally made up phenomenon), one could say Reality for a Human that is full of Illusionary circumstances, so as I said before this does not mean nothing exist, it means things exist but not as you perceive them, What You do not Perceive does not Exist for You, but does it Exist? Well Yes.. yes in the end nothingness or Shiva (That which is Not) is all that exists, but this is An Absolute perspective which is not the only perspective.. So what I find is that ppl put themselves into one of two camps, their Absolutists or Relativists. I am a Potentialist, that means all of it exists as a Potential within Your Experience, if no Experience is present then none of this exists, and Experience only happens via our Body and Mind/Brain complexes, its filtered down, so that most ppl are only Perceiving on the Survival level, we can raise that up to Enlightenment level and voila we experience Nothingness within Us. So denying Physicality, Planets and everything in between is not correct.. The Tree does make a sound when no one is around to hear it, we are spontaneously creating the sound by being their to witness the tree falling, but yes most ppl are full of lies and hallucinations and illusionary ideas in their heads, that is because no one makes the time to find out what it means to be Human!

Not just physical and not just dream-stuff but a cocktail of the two ? This is called Substance dualism . Quantum mechanics has long ago proved what all mystical traditions have said that existence is one and nondual . If you break down the "supposed " atoms which make up the universe you will get waves of energy..break down the energy and you get nothingness. Science literally knows the universe is nothing.. but the scientific community just doesn't want to let mainstream society know because people will have existential crisis If they knew that nothing actually exists. Not to mention that really nobody knows what an "atom " or "energy " or "matter" is ..just because we slap that label on it doesn't mean we actually know what existence is .and as it turns out this is to be expected because existence can't be grasped with symbols..words ..or concepts because existence is more fundamental than the words we use to describe it with . Then why say it's a dream ? You're familiar with Descartes thought experiment which goes "well how am I supposed to know whether I'm awake or dreaming at any given moment " bla bla ? But Descartes didn't get that this is not a problem at all ..because duality is illusion. Existence is dream .there is no real world and dream world...it's all one world and one thing .

@Leo Gura I disagree with your blog Post about Jesus Non Existence (if you meant it that way) I once had a vision of Jesus Christ after a rather failed 5 Meo DMT experience, where I couldnt resist and just got a terrible short trip. Right afgter that trip I saw Jesus Christ in the sky for only 5 seconds. Even if it was only 5 seconds it was the deepest reassurement of his existence, I knew immediately it is him, allthough I never had anything to do with Christianity and dont even celebrate Christmas, I had nothing to do with faith at all. Also I have watched alot of Near Death Experience Videos until now and what is most recurring in those Experiences of absolute bliss for the people is that they meet Jesus Christ in what they call Heaven or Paradise. And it doesnt even matter if they are Atheists, Jews Christians or Muslims, the majority meets Jesus Christ. So regarding these two points I do believe that Jesus has some special kind of mission here on earth what a longer meeting with him would actually be like in the afterlife is also probably a total mistery. I dont think that Death is simply ending up in nothingness because the Game needs to go on and we keep "living" in a place thats paradisical, according to Near Death Experiencers that place is totally real even though its not bound to time or space.

Because you're thinking about it. Realizing Nothingness makes it alright, even if things aren't alright.

Welcome to the forums, and thanks for sharing The "web" you see is most likely the structural geometrical patterns of reality, the fabric-matrix itself that holds the "appearing" realities together. When I first took DMT i saw the entire creation, how nothingness had a "spark" unto which a primordial vibration emerged that turned into sound that created light that created geometry, that created language, math, physics ect.. that all eventually shaped and created the reality we experience today. Like one big giant OHMMMMMM..... Another time I took DMT on a beach and I saw the whole ocean as one big sexual dance, waves became tentacles, ouroboros behaviour, very naughty, but yummy, like candy, i wanted in, i wanted to lick it, but then Buddha slapped me, and I realized, ohh... this too is "mind". Illusions dissolved. Sober, Clear, present, ahh... that's better. Who needs all that when you have this peaceful infinite space. I once looked at the stars after a long night by the fire, and saw myself looking back at myself sober. Infinite Blessings

Link to Previous Trip Report: > Dear reader; > The trip report is mostly written while I am high. > Text with the chevron “>” in front of it is text, is to point out that I wrote this as a comment afterward > I removed unnecessary filler to leave only the parts that might spark insight for you. > Things that I found particularly impactful will be in bold, underlined, or my top insights/musings will be in Green. Mushroom Trip 029 - Growth = Death Date: July 6th 2024 Time: Taken at 2:57pm Dose: 5g Wavy Caps (Psilocybe CYANESCENS, NOT your typical Psilocybe cubensis) Intention: What is Growth? Contemplations: What were the times that I grew the most in my life? When I put myself in a new challenging environment (Where I’m forced to shape-up) When I wrote the self-authoring suite. When I was writing a lot. Whenever I have a lot of suffering and fear to overcome. Thoughts on How to grow: Owning the truth. Becoming conscious of your self deceptions. Owning your corruption. > Complete Reflections and contemplations from Leo's Lectures on: Devilry, Corruption, Double Standards, Being Wrong, Avoidance of Truth, Fear. > Need to See Leo's video on real vs fake growth Start of Report: 13 minutes in: Subtle onset. - - If I feel like dying, I’m going for ego death. 18 minutes: kicking in. Wondering when I can meet Leo. This mushroom strain of Wavy Caps is very intense. It is very Ego dissolving. No wonder it went on sale. Nobody would like to use this strain for fun! Life advice for young people part 1 and 2. Watch it again Growth IS dying! Death creates real change. >At least it involves a lot of death of self/ ego-mind. Look at what other people your age are able to do. Look at the top performers, entrepreneurs, all of it. Set that as the bar for challenging yourself. And then challenge yourself to aim higher. Listen to your body, your body is deeply intelligent. If my body is telling me something, fucking take the authority OF MY BODY, and fuck any other human's authority. My body is deeply intelligent, remember that. My Gene Keys remind me of this that my body is the driver and my mind must follow. > The context I’m thinking about here is when I am in dangerous situations in Wildland Firefighting. Really gotta trust your body. Jokes are precisely where the exchange of authority happens. This is why the jester is right up there with the king. Growth happens when you know how to construct and deconstruct. Time doesn't exist! Holy shit! >That one just hit me like a brick to the back of my head. I wasn’t even going for it. I have instant access to nothingness. How the fuck do I even exist!? As the layers of ego dissolve, your access to the true nature of being deepens. At some point of the ego dissolution process, everything in your direct experience reveals itself to be nothingness. Then if you go further, you realize that this is all deeply intelligent, then going even further out becomes an overwhelming wave of love. Love being described as a traumatizing gravity that is slowly unifying and pulling reality all together. >Traumatizing oneness everybody! Reality will just wrap itself in layers of constructs in ways that you don't even know how. But this is how an ego gets constructed. An ego-self extends WAYY Beyond your body. It's like it extends out past your skin, let's say 100 m in front of you (when in reality it extends out throughout the infinite field of consciousness). The ego gets constructed by continually wrapping yourself in layers upon layers of stories, contexts and beliefs to explain away this current direct experience. > To the point where it no longer feels like a divine mystery. Learning to grow is to become conscious of what layer of constructs that you are currently wrapped in. Because throughout my entire life, it felt like trying to get myself out of A Rat's Nest. > Peeling back one layer of illusion after another, facing the truth. Owning the truth and accepting that I actually don’t know if I am going to wake up the next morning. I need to practice loving the process of falling asleep. That is a piece of therapy that I have not corrected yet. I still have fear of sleep, fear of facing whatever fucking crazy dream I am going to have next, fear of my consciousness drifting off. >Wayne Dyer said “You die every night”. I felt validated when he said that. I need to think in more terms about me being energetically correct. > This has been a big shift for me in approaching how I live my life. Oftentimes, I will energetically “feel” into a situation far faster than I have the ability to create words for it. Now I can lean into what my body is feeling and what my intuition is telling me far more. > Ask your self, “Is this [thing] energetically correct for me?” > > Examples: Career, Person, relationship, environment, food, etc. I realize I do much better with difficult conversations if I take the time to write it out. Even if I then have to read it out loud to them. I need to honor this part of my self more. > 2025 me is integrating this! > Anywhere you can have a Truthful conversation is an opportunity to gain respect. End of Report.

Nothingness can feel a lot like something. It’s essentially Infinite Potential, and when you experience it, you can’t help but wonder why it’s called Nothingness—yet somehow, it still makes perfect sense. I’m still trying to wrap my head around it. It’s basically a question of monotheism versus monism. Bernadette Roberts would argue that the creator and the created are distinct, with a Great Divide separating the Uncreated from the created. Leo, on the other hand, merges everything into one, saying God is the very thing it creates, even the ego. I’m still uncertain.

Mind body is what you are. This is just obviously irrefutable. Now you are aware of yourself, you can use the power of memory, you can remember the time before you became aware of yourself. Your language in the form of concepts was your conception? Ask yourself what were you before human conceptual language? Answer that question without using human conceptual language, okay. 👍 Mind and body is all there is, in this conception. A conceived conception is what you are right here and now. There’s no way to unconceive this conception, once the genie is out of the bottle, there’s no way back to the nothingness prior to knowledge in this conception, not now you have awakened to the truth.

yesterday never happened , experiencing fake now, thoughts or feelings are all part of script-predetermined, outside world is a projection, future is fixed even the feeling that you are enlighten is just an illusion, i am just the real-free puppet feeling happy!(in a puppet show-yes i know..i am still a jerk-could not resist that, sorry) in the prison of all prisons realisation is the tricky part.. lets move to the next chapter!!! if any!!! i want to play! can this dream be evolved? like nothing i have ever heard or imagined? another set, another show, another experience? heading into nothingness... is boring-(or is it?)(looks to me now) wow.. im such a puppet! -meant to give shows after all - and the inner child to play games (and Leo's videos.. spoiled it!-or maybe not-cant reach that far) (not too bright and wise to shift into nothingness or another "dimension")(skip the human part) i am so loser after all( and really feeling it) https://open.spotify.com/track/2aAV8orZctvbDvVJnMDlBR?si=431e68a7dc5c4ce6 feel like all i am doing right now is ...dancing with my inner child(looks like its female!) everything part of the drama! THE SHOW OF ALL SHOWS not a game for sure- that's how we(or rather-only me) experiencing it- felt it so so so so so so so so many times but not realising it! i am starting to enjoy watching only cats or stupid people performing like this.. she make my day... just for today! after a very long time.. i just need someone to give me a punch... all will be FIXED no ones coming! the smart ones .. just run to their fall lets keep the faith...so much drama for my mama

Infinite Nothingness has Infinite Power and Infinite Will, and it's willing this moment into existence. As an Infinite Mind, it can imagine anything it desires, just as your finite mind creates thoughts and ideas within the limits of its conditioned will.

how does infinite nothingness have will?

Why would a follower of Actualized.org define God in that way? God is Infinite Nothingness. Maybe loving it and accepting it are the same thing. Tell that to Jesus.

Hi everyone, Yesterday I had the strongest trip of my life. I’m still stunned, processing, integrating. Context: Three years ago I grew my own mushrooms and ate 4 dry grams alone. Six hours of brutal ego death fighting pointy “death mandalas” curled up on the floor under a blanket. I learned what real panic feels like. Forty minutes before the big one I took a 25 mg test hit of changa. Smooth, euphoric, felt like the best weed + clean MDMA ever. Got fully comfortable with the pipe and the feeling. Classic trap. The Fatal Hit: 100 mg in one deep, clean toke. Held 15 seconds. Before I even exhaled I knew I was gone forever. Laid flat on my back. Instant Blindness: Ten seconds after exhaling the same death mandalas from the mushroom trip detonated a thousand times stronger. Ceremonial, aggressive, blinding. No time to calm down. Pure hardcore panic. Fighting for Survival: For what felt like eternity I fought the visuals. Discovered that staying perfectly still made them unbearable, but if I followed strange intuitive body movements (rolling, sitting up, face-down, feet planted on the bed) the mandalas morphed into chrome-neon metallic square hyperspace structures I had never seen before. Kept saying out loud “oh my god… wtf… omg…”. Dying Like My Father: Terror peaked. Suddenly I felt I was dying the same horrible death as my dad eight years ago (alcohol addiction, agony). Deep existential grief and guilt crushed me. Cried inside “I didn’t sign up for this.” The Click of Surrender: Something shifted. The more I let go, the faster the personal self dissolved. Panic melted. Pure consciousness began expanding, the human body was no longer the center of concern. Rocket Launch: Blasted vertically out of my body and house through a tunnel of consciousness. Left Earth’s atmosphere. Brief glimpse of two colossal fractal guardians floating in hyperspace (only fragments of their mandalic structure remain in memory). Saw Earth shrink, then the Moon, then nothing. The Image of the Universe Shrinks to Nothing: Faster than any thought, the entire cosmos I was watching collapsed into a tiny point and simply vanished. One split (human) second of pure, absolute nothingness. No galaxies, no light, no container, no reference. The Absolute Last Void: That nothingness was it. No time. No space. No witness. Just the final, sourceless silence behind everything. The strongest, most undeniable sense of reality I have ever known. And there I was, conscious of it. Completely impossible. Details: Total clock time from exhale to first coherent human thought: 5 minutes and 30 seconds. I used a propper scale to measure the amount of changa precisely. This is absolutely nuts. I know I need to keep exploring this territory, I feel there's more to it, but first I have to fully integrate this hell of a trip. I never expercienced so much Awe, terror, panic, beauty, insanity, and this MASSIVE cosmic view. this experience showed me the power of the universe, how small earth is, the scope of what is possible, the infinite imagination required to give rise to all this, wtf, how is this even possible that I can even write about this !!!! I made a drawing of what I could do with the memories of the mandalas, as they got obliterated by the void, it's not so pro, but I'll share it.

The moment in deep sleep is absence of anything, but later it's presence. Both are possibilities, why the nothingness is more real than the presence? Are you now in deep sleep? Then, why it's real according to you?