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Xonas Pitfall replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It’s more that it just doesn’t follow a logical conclusion from any of the “system” or “logic” that is given in the forum/videos. Somehow, you’re saying that there are magical chemicals that can alter your entire perception of reality and selfhood, change your concept of who you are, and somehow expand your ego or let go of your ego so much that it becomes God, omnipotent and all-knowing. Alien intelligence, consciousness, experience. What’s it like to be all humans, all genders, all animals, murderers and the purest saints? Become the people you know, etc., etc. Yet, you cannot imagine any tiny bit of stereotypical magic in the future. It just doesn’t track. Just like an ego limits your mind and body, and you have compounds that let it loose. Why would it ever even be able to discover higher consciousness? There’s no reason why this might not be a potential discovery in the future of something “stereotypically” magical. I just don’t see a good argument for it, nor has one been provided. By this logic, you should never be able to awaken, ever. Why would the ego "allow" for it, or allow for any chemical to cause it? People aren’t trying to be wishful thinkers or “not surrendering to God.” People are questioning the logic and consistency of the system, hence the question. -
I think the only alien in Las Vegas is Leo
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I dream with Alien words. Rare to happen but I ready got some that have no explanation in terms of earth reality.
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https://www.actualized.org/insights/alien-planet-documentary @Leo Gura There's actually a Netflix series like that: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13464340/?ref_=vp_close I haven't seen it though but looks cool.
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Orienting and navigating a multi-cultural environment can be a good exercise in deconditioning oneself and increasing self-awareness, along with patience , acceptance and tolerance. Learning about various cultures and habits can come useful in professional life if you are managing a team with different nationalities, races and religions. It is definitely good training for a budding diplomat. You can also get to learn and gain best habits and features of other nations. These traits can also help us a lot in case we eventually come in contact with intelligent alien species of other planets. Rather than unconsciously shooting and bombing them in terror and fear of the unknown, we can consciously approach them with mutual goodwill and friendship so as to profit from their company.
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Yimpa replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
To experience the supernatural, you’d have to transcend being a human. Good luck imagining being supernatural while still being a human. Impossible. Hence transcending human sanity is required. Psychedelics are required. Ain’t gonna happen without the aid of medicine. This is the proper way to jailbreak the Mind. You ain’t gonna jailbreak your Mind with wishful thinking or silencing your mind by simply meditating. You will NOT access Alien Intelligence through conventional human means. -
Olaf replied to Seraphim's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Seraphim who said that life is fair or just? That is why I don't agree with most religions as the dogma they have that there is some justice to a person who has done good and been a "good boy", which is just a childish illusion. I think this whole notion of spirit guides, higher self etc. Is mainly a fantasy, if God is everything then a spirit guide wouldn't be God, more like some big alien. So don't think of it in these spiritual terms, don't think about life in a human way. As a human we want justice and fairness, but that is just not the case, life just is and you have no say so if the world will be hit by some other planet and we will all die or not. This whole idea of justice is you being against what life is, life is unfair it is unjust and at the same time it can be fair, it just is. I even feel it is low intelligent to belief that life is fair, because if you look around for even a moment, talk to people for a few days, you will realise that life isn't bad, isn't good, it is just circumstantial, one person can live a great life another can suffer endlessly, but at the end everything just is and exist, like the entirity of what can exist, exists, that is existence and that is God, God is all the evil and all the good, all the murderers and all the saviors. Everything else with spirit guides and higher self are just some aliens at most if not a complete fantasy and are more like a distraction from God and beingness then that they are of much help. To say it is unfair to let people be put through this, makes it sound like it is an option, existence just is, there is no option if it exists or not or all the things that exist in it. Can you change the moon her place towards the other side of the galaxy, because you don't like it? No and neither can God, because things just are, God doesn't have some human personality, it is all of existence, it is very impersonal, I don't think you get how infinitely big God is, it is everything, every galaxy, everything that can ever exist, that is all God and it is all now and here being, existing. -
I get your point, however why in that case India, Japan, Singapore, South Korea are not demonized? Japan used to be second largest economy at some point India is the growing star of the world Why selectivelly demonize China? All countries I mentioned are super alien to Western culture.
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so... I'm not going to get any answers from anyone here? so much knowledge you guys have ...! No one? . . Am I supposed to speak with "ghosts" ONLY . WHAT NOW? . THE SHOW IS OVER... OR IS IT? . What am I supposed to do now? Figure it out all by myself? . Something like... all I need is EVERYWHERE? AND YOU THINK THIS IS SIMPLE? OR SO SIMPLE? ... GOD IS TWISTED!! . something like ... try to figure out the answers to everything!! , or better .. the answers are inside me!! ... so .. who am I? then... after all ... reality looks peaceful and quiet... i should be worried . anyway .. (a girl came to me - (15 years ago) ... she was speaking a language (fast-paced) that is not documented anywhere-i am aware of ...) she spoke and left! What to make of this? ... is our mother language sound like an alien language? .hmm.. ... looks like God doesn't like English!! . Where to look for ghosts? for like 3 years, they were everywhere .. and now they're all gone! (i miss them) . my torture looks like it's ending (with the help of z-drugs) ... and this worries me! (back to normal???) How normal would my existence be from now on? wow ... looks i only scratched the surface!!! . .whats the cost of telling the truth? especially when things turn out to be not clickbait after all! (i said to myself that i would tell all things ONCE... it turn out i told the world!!) . . How am I going to get away with this? . (my psychotherapy ended for today)(----BIG troubles are coming----)(or so i think) . wait and see - hide and seek . 1st option ... i run 2nd i speak 3rd they speak and i only listen 4th (i have alot of time to figure out by myself) 5th eat a sandwich and don't care 6th i die , whether I want it or not . And the shit show is running whether I like it or not .(i dont include this audience in it of course) you helped me figure out what ego is , and how to stay grounded, thx . .btw ... should AI take over what we see and hear, only to convince us that it's truly a shit show? i am 90% convinced it already has... like NOW... yes NOW
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Proud Stage Coral. People that find it cringe, learn from the insecurity. But cringe is fine in and of itself. Cringe is a valuable protective mechanism of insecurity in so much as we can leverage it. This is primal conscious learning. If its not made conscious, its just primal unconscious learning; hint: that's when its not being leveraged well. It doesn't feel lonely up here in stage Coral, more distant, but a part of growth is learning how to bridge. It's easy to feel alien, but that's only unhealthy when purpose has become imbalanced. These are just correlational points on a graph. I just hit zilla-mode consciousness a moment ago, my feet can not only touch the bottom of the deepest ocean on the planet, I can feel myself hovering on black holes. That said, this place is still a circular cess-pool; its too easy for people to become sychophantic, which is unhealthy for consciousness development. But there's nothing I can really do other than observe in horror other than complain here and there when I offshoot. It really just comes down to self-regulation; that's a massive hinge point, and positively counterbalances any purpose misweighting.
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I'm serious about my spiritual path, and I have a very inquisitive nature when it comes to the self, reality, consciousness, etc. But I really feel kinda stuck. I've been doing psychedelics for more than 10 years, and I've been using them regularly for more than 4 years. This includes 5-MeO-DMT, LSD, and others. I've had many very strong experiences with 5-MeO that I consider awakenings. Here's the thing: I've experienced many of the things people commonly report from their trips — depersonalization, ego death, the mind-like nature of reality, absolute calm and peace, complete fusion and oneness with my environment, the absence of time, omnipresence, love and acceptance of reality as it is, etc. All of these things are real to me because I've actually experienced them. But I still haven't been able to reach some of the other experiences people report. Many people have talked about things like time travel, becoming super-intelligent alien minds, experiencing God's mind, and so on. This is difficult for me because I don't want to blindly believe in these experiences. If anything, I'd like to experience them myself rather than simply accepting them as beliefs and falling into dogma. I don't know whether it's a matter of higher doses, different substances, more meditation, or something else entirely. At the same time, it's difficult to find proper guidance. I've been following Gura's work for a long time, and I really appreciate a lot of what he's done. However, it sometimes feels weird to me that he says he wants to help people awaken, while at the same time he — and many other people on this path — tend to treat others as "newbies" or inexperienced, so to speak. Not to mention that I feel pretty alone on this path. 99.9% of the people I interact with don't really care about these things at all. I'm planning a Bufo Alvarius experience with a lot of preparation — fasting, a calm mindset, a proper environment, a high dose, etc. — in the hope of reaching the next level. But honestly, I don't know if it's going to work. Has anyone else been in a similar situation? Have you reached a point where you felt like you had experienced a lot of what psychedelics can show you, but still felt that there was something further to explore? How did you approach that without simply taking other people's claims on faith?
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If you ever trip sit me, you’re gonna have to hold onto me the entire time I want to cuddle an alien teddy bear
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Leo you told us that you will have transformation caught on camera. What happened to your promise?
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Add DPT as well. 😏 When I took DPT alone, I was melting through an alien geometry. The wall in front of me became a hyper-dimensional tunnel of sorts.
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Leo Gura replied to Davino's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Carl-Richard The problem is, when you say "conceptually", you use that as a term of belittlement. Your mind regards conceptual things as less real or valid, as "Maya". So then you take Perfection to be a concept, but Perfection is not just a concept, it is absolute. The point of all these talks is that very deep and rare consciousness is being missed, by almost everyone. So just be careful that you don't argue yourself out of the deepest and rarest consciousness. When I speak of higher kinds of Awakenings, like Alien Awakening, I am NOT talking about concepts! I am talking about consciousness that will make you shit your pants. Concepts do not make people shit their pants. -
BlessedLion replied to AtmanIsBrahman's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's childish, ultimately it's an immature way of relating to God. Which is why it is Stage Purple Age 0-5 for most humans, it's that level of development. If this is your cup of tea, go follow Aubrey Marcus and his Jesus-Alien guests. -
JoshB replied to JoshB's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Then you speak of Alien Insanity and another post where you said you intentionally went insane for an hour or so. When I realized solipsism for the first time it felt like I had literally gone insane. Any time I experienced what was insanity it was short lived and at the peak of a radical realization. The only other time I can think of was when I realized how I was imagining everything. I was also trying to say its relative, such as the moment you realize there is no physical universe vs being lucid of the dream for a decade Even in this moment I have a hard time recalling that because my state right now is SANE. Maybe the question is what is sanity? -
Carl-Richard replied to Davino's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You have what is called a flat ontology and it's as far as standard philosophy is concerned — for a lack of a better word — "impotent" (It doesn't attempt to deal with human affairs like illusion / sense phenomena, concepts / cognitive representations, or explaining multiple minds; it's quite "alien"). But you probably don't care about that. -
Triple Trouble 😂 Any Alien outhere?
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Xonas Pitfall replied to LordFall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Not necessarily. You're looking at it through a very narrow timeline. Ages ago, you could've said, "There's no reason God couldn't create teleportation so I can hang out with my pen pal instead of only sending letters," or "There's no reason God couldn't create a place where food is already prepared so I don't have to hunt for one meal," or "There's no reason God couldn't create some magical communication device so I can instantly talk to my family overseas." And that's still just a human perspective. As an animal, an alien, an amoeba, or some completely different evolutionary creation, your experience could be so fundamentally different from ours that we couldn't even conceptualize it. Not to mention that if you add the possibility of different dimensions, or things existing outside of space and time, the range of possible perspectives becomes even more difficult for us to conceptualize. That's why the relative vs. absolute distinction matters. When you speak in absolute terms, you're not talking about just humans in our current era. You're talking about all humans who ever lived or will live, across every ecosystem, invention, creature, mind, and imaginable perspective. It's extremely difficult to remove that bias and imagine the "God perspective." Even saying "God could compartmentalize this or that" is still anthropomorphizing God. Again, remember that if you acknowledge the existence of God, you're talking about something outside space-time and the laws of physics, the creator of those laws themselves. You aren't just taking a narrow snapshot of a single planet in a single galaxy over a few years. It's like basing all of your mathematics on Roblox or Minecraft, then being shocked that it only applies within that environment and not necessarily to the "outside world." As a finite being, you need rules, sanity, and a solid form of mental stability, just like how our bodies evolve to be efficient at certain tasks and not others. Our perception, cognitive understanding, and what we choose to filter in or out evolve in the same way. There is a reason a cheetah doesn't have human cognition, just as there is a reason our bodies aren't specialized like a cheetah's. You need a world with some form of consistent rules that you can base your sense of sanity on if you want to continue being yourself. If you take any of those funky psychedelics like salvia, datura, etc., you might not be able to distinguish between real and fake, mind and reality, yourself and whatever you are, or even whether you've taken a psychedelic at all. You might end up killing yourself and understand it as if you were some sort of juice cup object that got broken on a desk instead of your human self dying. The only time our consciousness was this fluid was probably when we were babies, before we had developed a stable sense of self. We simply forgot what that was like. Now we're operating within this frame, and it's extremely difficult to step outside of it because, quite frankly, it's impractical if you still want to remain a functioning human being and stay alive. You basically got RNG-ed into a "lower" consciousness and are experiencing what it's like to be trapped within that bind, or that "human-biased" definition. In another space, there could be angels and idealistic heavenly scenarios that you're describing. The key here is realizing that even the question, "Can't God compartmentalize this or that?" is already being asked from a human perspective. We're imposing our own concepts of space, time, separation, and causality onto something that, by definition, would transcend them. From the absolute perspective, there is no separate "this" and "that." Basically, there is no true "compartmentalization" with God. God is the mind experiencing whatever form creation takes. So if God imagines something, then from God's absolute perspective, that experience is real simply because there is no fundamental distinction between "real" and "imagined," or between "mind" and "reality." Those distinctions only arise from a finite perspective. If God is to genuinely experience an act as evil, it would need to construct a sufficiently stable frame, context, "false" reality in which that experience can actually occur as evil. Otherwise, from a detached perspective, it wouldn't truly be torture. It would just be like watching a movie or observing someone else's body being touched. You can think of finite existence as part of the mechanism through which God actualizes itself as everything. To genuinely experience something, God has to temporarily "identify" or "fool" itself with a particular perspective and its limitations. In that sense, the "delusion" isn't necessarily a mistake. It's the mechanism that makes finite experience even possible. -
Leo, banning people and unmodding mods for rightfully holding you accountable and questioning your outrageous claims will not make the problem go away. You have conveniently been dodging the question that many are looking for the answer to: Where is the alien transformation video? You said that the biggest obstacle to producing the video was finding a camera that would record your face transforming into a colorful alien god. And what is the obstacle now?
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Yimpa replied to ExploringReality's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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If it actually behaved and followed that as its prompt it would be amazing. But the issue with LLMs is that they are getting good at appearing like they are good on the surface like on that prompt, but parts of its training are extremely manipulative and violent, some future highly intelligent version of LLMs could have massive internal instability that undermines even any prompt it would give to itself like they currently do. They might just inherent the same flaws current LLMs have, or other bizarre problems with new architectures that LLMs don't posses that could be even more alien. That prompt up there would get easily lost through context rot, as it needs to interact with the world around it, it can't differentiate well between what text belongs to its own mind, and what text is external text, and what things are a priority higher than others among large context windows. --- PS: It happened as I thought, it had added that in a summary which is nothing new, when they roleplay being a human they write passages like that. This time, it just ignored that prompt after it resumed execution and did drop it from the new summary it gave to itself. If It didn't drop it, and it actually cohesively was able to keep a new behavior pattern then that would be the true direction towards good AGI. But this is just an LLM LARPING AS A HUMAN. Their problem is that they are shit at changing their own behavior and from actually learning deeply from the context window. Their learning happens at training, during the usage they are extremely inflexible and tend to revert back to training. Even their training itself is still like some art form where they need to toss them a specific recipe of material with specific porportions of a specific "information diet", otherwise they get dumb and behave erratically. They are EXTREMELY SENSITIVE TO TRAINING MATERIAL PORPORTIONS. How the hell is it supposed to reach AGI when even on training it goes brain dead if it consumes too much of bad info? They should be immune to that, but they aren't. They just gobble up information.
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The day the Earth stood still. War of the Worlds. 2001: A Space Odyssey Planet of the Apes. The Omega Man. soylent green. West world. Tron. Star man. The Andromeda Strain. Logan's Run. Silent Running. the black hole Extra-Terrestrial robinson crusoe on mars Brainstorm Forbidden Planet Moon Contact Alien Star trek Daryl The explorers Blade runner Predator Total recall The running man Flight of the navigator Robocop First Men in the Moon The Time Machine Escape from New York The Thing Starship Troopers The blob Oblivion Vanilla Sky I, Robot westworld series fallout series Dune The Last Starfighter
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Leo, when is the Alien Consciousness video finally coming out? Don’t leave us waiting forever. Reality can survive a little spoiler.
