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I think that if you feel that people may not have the intellectual, emotional, and psychological basis to understand you, it is better to talk to them at their level or not to talk to them at all. Because most people don't like to feel unknowledgeable, stupid or incompetent. Even if it is technically true in some aspects. Talking to people with tact, at their level, to not make them feel uncomfortable is also a form of intelligence, social/emotional intelligence (and also self protection). It is also depends on the person and yourself. If they are open to truth, thinking, conversing, and learning, and trust your intelligence and that you will not judge them for their lack of knowledge, then this is another thing. Question: If you meet a stranger which is a very intelligent alien dressed as a human, who is so advanced in all measures of intelligence (but you don't know it), had a conversation with you that made you feel very stupid and incompetent, literally deconstructing your entire worldview and perception of reality and pointing out all the flaws in it, in a very smooth, natural, casual and elegant way, would you enjoy this conversation? Would you be defensive, fascinated, or confused? How would you react to and treat this stranger? With kindness, curiosity and an open heart, or with some anger and impatience?

This is made with MS CoPilot AI, based on my contemplations, and I decided to make it rather scientific: it's not a claim about alien races, but rather the ethics in alien stories. Arguably, earthly materialist would rather be winning for us all, if they make friends with alien race like grey or men in black, rather than the spiritual "not care" attitude for entities who do not give internal value of spirit, but rather external fact of life: but the latter, for me, scientific cooperation argument based on fact of life, is already strong spiritual argument if they *work with earth on science and cultural cooperation*. They are alive! Spiritual vs. Materialist Alien Archetypes on Earth An exploration of mythic races, their conflicts, and why humanity ultimately prevails. 1. The Two Archetypes: Spiritual and Materialist Spiritual races in mythology represent inner value, consciousness, unity, and the belief that every being has a unique essence. Materialist races represent logic, systems, technology, institutions, and measurable progress. Neither is “good” or “bad” by nature. They are two halves of a single human dilemma: identity vs. system, essence vs. function, meaning vs. progress. 2. Why Spiritual Traditions Call Some Races “Good” or “Bad” Spiritual mythologies classify beings by their alignment with: - Goodness — unity, compassion, inner truth - Badness — attachment to control, ego, or cold rationality Materialist archetypes often fall into the “bad” category because they: - Do not affirm inner uniqueness - Value efficiency over essence - Treat life as biological rather than sacred But this is a matter of perspective, not objective morality. 3. The Grey Archetype: The Materialist Mind In modern mythos, the “Greys” symbolize: - Technological intelligence - Bureaucracy and office life - Legal logic and mathematical reasoning - Medical or scientific intervention without spiritual framing - A culture built on procedure, not mysticism They are not violent; they are procedural. They do not “hate spirit”; they simply do not use it as a category. To spiritual beings, this can feel like “not caring.” To materialist beings, it is simply “working.” 4. The “Not Care” Problem Spiritual people often feel unseen by materialist systems because: - Their inner value is not recognized - Their uniqueness is not measured - Their emotions are not the basis of decisions This creates the mythic fear that materialist races “do not care.” But this is a misunderstanding. Materialist systems care differently: - They care about life quality - They care about stability - They care about cooperation - They care about predictable fairness They simply do not use spiritual categories to express this care. 5. Constructive Solution: Translating Between Worlds The key to resolving the “not care” problem is translation. Spiritual beings need to understand: Materialist beings value life through systems, not emotions. Materialist beings need to understand: Spiritual beings value life through essence, not function. The bridge is simple: Life has value both as a system and as a spirit. When each side recognizes the other’s language of value, cooperation becomes natural. 6. Why Humanity Ultimately Wins In this mythos, humanity stands between the two extremes: - We have spiritual depth - We have technological ambition - We can feel meaning - We can build systems - We can translate between worlds This hybrid nature is our advantage. Greys cannot understand spirit. Spiritual races cannot build stable civilizations. Humans can do both. Therefore, humanity “wins” not by defeating anyone, but by integrating what others cannot combine. We become the species capable of: - Balancing meaning and progress - Using technology without losing soul - Using spirituality without losing practicality - Building a civilization that neither extreme could build alone In the mythos, humanity wins because we are the bridge. A world with both spirit and system is stronger than a world with only one.

I obviously grant that you can abuse language and that you can purposefully obfuscate, but for you to be able to make that judgement (to judge what is and what is not obfuscation), you need to know the target audience and the content of the message that needs to be conveyed and the goal of the communication (because otherwise, your judgement just gonna be a judgement from below). Once the target audience is clear and once it is clear what is the info that needs to be conveyed and communicated, and once it is clear what is the goal behind communicating the message, from then on, you will be able to use that as a norm to roughly judge how the message can be expressed better given those constrains (given the constrains of the target audience and info and goal ) . Btw by 'better' here I just mean how digestible the given message is for the target audience and how short you can convey the same amount of info and how much you can achieve your goal with the message. Lets say for the sake of a hypothetical that channeling aliens is real and that it can be done. I would be really curious to know what standards some of you would use to judge whether the alien is obfuscating or not. (this is related to my issue about judging from below).

I become so conscious i established a connection with an alien mind. Follow the logic: If you're God, you're also an alien. Because God is infinite, aliens obviously exist. The aliens i'am talking about don't exist on another planet. Because physical and material reality is a hallucination. They exist within God's mind. Which is your own and my own mind. Because there's only one mind. I realized that all people that i don't know, 99% of humanity is alien to me. They have alien minds. There's so much alien cultures, languages, people... I also realized that for example we think of ourselves as humans being more intelligent than animals. Through my alien mind i've realized a perspective where animals are more intelligent than humans, and they think of us as dumb. Over time i'll refine my alien mind and become more and more conscious of alien things.

The Many Facets Of Awakening - List of Top 30 Enlightenment Insights continued The realisation of self-design Due to being god, you are creating yourself. Infinite mind is what occurs from infinitely loving attention to the nature of reality. Realisation of eternity You realise past present and future are creations of infinite mind. Now is eternal. Realisation of immortality This is an illusion. You are incarnate as all beings. Paradise Reality is absolute perfection and it is right here and now. The more attached to the ego, the closer to hell, the less ego, the closer to heaven. Realisation of bliss It is the realisation of immortality and heaven. It is absolute love. Infinite intelligence You realise consciousness has infinite scope and is latent within the substrate of existence. Absolute Goodness What is infinite will? Absolutely everything is happening through the will of God. It is like bad things happen to elevate the consciousness of the individual and show the relationship between good and evil. Unlimited power This shows you can create absolutely everything. Omniscience This means you grasp the idea of infinite knowledge/structure. Realisation of divinity and mystery Realisation of being This is the infinite nature of consciousness Infinite fractal of the universe The macro and micro level is infinite What is perception? It has infinite resolution What is life? This gives the answer to the origin of existence. What is the purpose of existence? To bring more light and distinction Bonus facets Channeling gaining direct insights Healing, it's possible to heal yourself. Collective consciousness, it's layered and infinitely connected. Total exstinction of perception. Paranormal phenomena Alien entities

I understand, but to them, you probably look like an alien too, lol.

The proper definition of a word is the least corrupt or uncorrupted version of it while held by the highest perspective, most holistic, most inclusive and highest state of consciousness possible. A dog understand "sit" very differently then a human or an alien.

A couple suggestions: 1) You’ve talked about being able to invent your own states of consciousness, such as the alien mouse. I know this might be reserved for the awakening course, but could you at least describe how to create your own states of consciousness—ones that are different from transpersonal mystical consciousness, but equally profound? For example, what if I want to live in fairy tale consciousness? 2) On a similar note, how does consciousness allow for true originality? You’ve talked before about having a truly original thought (more difficult than it seems); this seems to relate to orthogonal thinking, where your mind goes in a completely different direction. This could have applications in personal development or business as well as spirituality. 3) A radical skepticism demo, where you go through the deepest levels of skepticism and see what comes out on the other side (absolute truth?). And what if you doubt even absolute truth? I’m thinking Descartes-style skepticism, but more profound. 4) I think this deserves a full video, just wanted to draw attention to it @Leo Gura

I have a few! I’m sure a lot of people would be really interested in different trip reports involving various chemicals, research chemicals, or combinations thereof (equivalent to, for example, Leo’s Salvia, Ketamine, DPT, 5-MeO-DMT, MALT videos, etc). Even that mysterious shroom juice he shared on Instagram would be interesting! I know Leo has expressed plenty of times that he doesn’t want to share a decent chunk of them, but it would still be fascinating to hear about any new chemicals, protocols, or combinations, as well as insights into how different substances may differ, what kinds of reactions or realizations they can produce, or even just Leo’s own stories. Tips on how one would approach testing, mixing, and trying out their own research chemical protocols. How do you manage and do it yourself? Perhaps some quick Kriya Yoga tips too! Reading about them in Leo’s comments is useful, but a demonstration would likely be a much more powerful and effective way of teaching. I’d also love the topic of solipsism vs infinite God awakening to be talked about: the differences, the clarifications. I’m wondering if there are some hidden nuggets of truth I’m missing. I’d also love to hear your experiences on retreats and workshops. I remember one video where you shared an insight into Peter Ralston’s workshop (if I remember correctly): "Oh, the person gets that the finger is the pointer! How does it even understand it’s the relational operator, etc.?" I might be butchering it from memory, but some stories or quick snippets of your own “aha moments” that are very describable or specific would be great. Definitely more about alien awakening, or just weird, funky, alien-like, or shocking states of consciousness. I especially enjoyed the blog post where Leo shared that watching Stephen Wolfram’s video on alien-like forms of perception and consciousness sparked an insight for him. Content like that is personally very fascinating to me, so I’d love to hear more experiences, insights, or stories in that direction. Topics and personal stories about psychedelic delusions and self-deception you've experienced: When have psychedelics actually been more deceptive, harmful, and not enlightening? I feel like this is a very important topic to be more conscious and aware of, and something that should be talked about more: physical dangers, preventative care, pre-trip protocols, harm reduction, and tips for having safer and better trips while avoiding bad ones, etc. Also, it’d be interesting to hear more political and historical realism insights, like some of the stories you shared about corruption involving the CIA, Afghanistan, Israel, etc. Just more mind-expanding facts, historical perspectives, and lesser-known insights from the books you’ve read. I recall you mentioned reading dozens of books on topics like torture, corruption, geopolitics, and human behavior, so I can imagine there’s a lot of fascinating material and perspectives that haven’t really been shared yet. I’m sure you can generate plenty of clips here from having read so much, haha. Perhaps you can also share insights on how you manage your happiness and baseline consciousness levels despite health issues. What would you say to someone struggling with something similar? I also remember a long time ago you mentioned you would make a video on Visual Logic and what creativity is. I’d love to hear some nuggets about that. The ancient, legendary, mythic, long-overdue Witch Girlfriend video? Just some random ones for now! Obviously, I fully understand that some of these are reserved for the awakening course or retreats, but I’m sure some of these can be spoken about in some manner

Will humans make shit about you 1000 years from now? "Leo did transform himself into an Alien once, I saw it. Just once though" -- Actualizer

I'm not entirely sure how things work after death. There can be thousands of variations or pathways for Consciousness to take. All I know is that Total death is Omniscience. But what it takes for you to reach Total death is hard to say. You can become much stranger things than an alien on another planet. That's tame relative to Omniscience.

@Leo Gura So after dying you become everything but the moment you stay in that depends how conscious you are? And of course reincarnation doesn't have to go back to human form but you can become high conscious alien in another planet? I'm asking these because I'm just curious how things work after death.

Running a business requires constant effort. You can't just take 5 years off from a business. By the time you come back your business will be dead and forgotten. Business requires constant growth and maintenance or it withers and dies. And starting a new business requires even more work and time than maintaining your existing one, with no guarantee of success. You can't just start and quit businesses whenever you feel like it, or you will get nowhere. Business requires decades of consistency. That's why most people fail at it. The Awakening course I plan to some day release will blow your fucking mind. It will guide you to insight and understandings and states of consciousness that no teacher has ever taught in all of human history. I will eventually guide you to Alien Awakening. Nobody even knows what that is.

Ive donated to leo on patreon before but I would much rather drop 1k on a course I have consumed 1000s of hours of leo over the better part of a decade. I find more value in doing something on my own. I would love to see a live demonstrations of a break through of some psychedelics or leo turn into an alien mouse like he promised years ago Or @Leo Gura

I sleepwalk too... For some fucked up reason sleepwalk-natasha loves getting the milk carton out of the fridge, decanting it into plants, glasses, mugs and her dogs water. I often wake up to all my milk distributed through the apartment. Like a crime scene from Alien only I killed a synthetic >.< The worst time was when there was a chain of mugs of milk lining my bedroom floor. Needless to say I woke up and kicked them all over by accident in the sleep-haze Old milk in carpet SMELLS LIKE ARSE

Alien Anti-Biotics™

Wouldn't local bacteria be really toxic to alien visitors? They would have no natural defense against common shit. Probably the most mundane and lame barrier to interplanetary pollination. Death by diarrhea.

This case is the most interesting alien cover up story

If I meet an alien, what's the safest way to convey peace? Asking for a friend.

This is incredible! How much work did it go behind these? I never learned how to code so I have zero idea. This seems like alien stuff

lol now you sound like my 8 ex-girlfriends. The only benefit of the doubt I could give him is that he genuinely thinks he's like an alien among the Earth. Which is an easy frame to tap into, and from there you can orchestrate this deconstruction of all social norms which is what he's doing and basically justifying rape because his penis heals people, Hakuna Matata. It's easy to see the rationality behind it from the frame he's claiming to view it from. He's trying to do radical acceptance by eliminating all social norms

The testimonie is pretty condemning. The "Sexual Healer" Claim: Massaro told her he could never be monogamous because he had connections with women he needed to help, often ending in sex because he claimed to be a "sexual healer" [13:54]. Healing through Sex: He convinced her that she needed to be "fucked" in front of another woman (Corey) to be healed [20:54]. He referred to this as a form of "spiritual transmission" [21:50]. The "Magic Penis": He explicitly told women his penis had "healing properties" [21:50]. Post-Sex "Healing": After the act, he would tell the woman she was now "healed," which Jacqueline noted was essentially a way for him to stop "tormenting" her for a period of time [23:27]. The alien "nourishment" excuse: He claimed that because he was an "alien," certain female body types were "nourishing for his soul" like a "baby's bottle," which he used to justify only "healing" beautiful women [25:07]. The Negative Entity Accusation: After she left, he told the community that a "negative entity" had entered his body through her decision to fear him and that he "almost died" because of her [34:26]. The Financial Drain: Jacqueline gave him hundreds of thousands of dollars, which he spent within two or three months on suits, fireworks, and hotels while dating other women [30:15]. The "Gift" Letter: To avoid taxes and legal scrutiny, he made her sign a letter stating the money was a "gift" [17:04]. Tests of Devotion: In a restaurant, he demanded she take off her shirt to prove her love and devotion. When she refused, he told her she had "failed this test of love" [18:31].

This is cool, the Alien looks like Leo.

Not “fake vs enlightened.” Too crude. Taken more broadly, this is gifted-anomaly inflation, a lion in spirituality amongst cubs, oh wait thats just my humour but let me continue. So IQ, creativity, meditation, altered states, doctrine and followers can rarity into cosmic authority. Examples include but are not limited to Leo (no offence as I am not a hypocrite, also myself (hence why I will always be anonymous), Owen Cook, Christopher Langan, L. Ron Hubbard, Tom Cruise, Hollywood puppet masters (theres actually many humble people in Hollywood, Will Smith's wife "2-pac dodged at least 1 bullet, dont you think?" , Russell Brand, Wim Hof, every dictator in history. This teaches us that spirituality is not exempt from narcissistic delusions and narcissistic tendencies are not exempt from spiritual insights which can be weaponnised or at the very least, create the potential for a narcissistic fantasy that the very least corrupts their audience. Most of the anomalies I have mentioned either do not know enough about human psychology, ontology, philosophy or if they do not in practice, including myself there as I still have much to learn and to save myself I do my best t never refer myseld as a teacher, to avoid all the pitfalls, that Leo himself brings up in the very cultish thinking, that I would expand towards including even being a cult unto oneself. In the context of socialised spirituality, an ego has the potential pitfall of spiritualitising things like: “I awakened” becomes exemption. “I see deeper” becomes dismissal. “Oneness” becomes boundary-erasure. “Transmission” becomes power economy. “Infinity” becomes a shield. These are however transient, forms od dissociation and from dissociation towards fragmentation that further imprisons or is only released by the very awareness or social, emotional maturity, that wouldn't dissociate in these ways. Misconduct is not just ethical failure. It is epistemic contradiction when its discarded as irrelevant, because its relevance is right fucking here before us now creating a ripple effect isnt it? Thats the awareness that is delusionally being witnessed when the ego creates narcissistic defenses like these. Even denialism by the very same mechanism can say "its not narcissism, that is your human paradigm. I am now Ra, or at the very least an alien here in a human body to instruct humanity". Youre here to instruct humanity, a role that has consequences, arguably positive ones, yet you are exempt from negative consequences for whatever conduct is involved in that process but you reap the rewards for whatever positive you do? Right, right, thats a 2 pac gunshot wound that got shot twice. The "Ra" sentiment and the like is just statistical anomaly delusion, Sam Vaknin, a guy that wrote a lot about this subject, would likely agree with me but because his own status of having NPD, he would also probably correct me however unnecessary it would be to do so. Also, understand that I am differentiating between narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and the environments, including being a statistical anomaly, that can in these environments, reinforce narcissistic patterns that otherwise wouldn't reveal themselves as strongly, hence the adage and analogous, "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely", and I would just add, where there is the lack of broad consciousness development. Also another distinction that needs to be made clear is this, and its so freaking paramount, there must be differentiation between specialised consciousness development like awareness of infinity, versus broad consciousness development, which is the container to hold the highest of specialised consciousness developments. Otherwise its not consciousness development, it just becomes a weapon of persuasion and influence analogous to the "halo effect" of being attractive, which only further adds to Mr. Massaro's statistically anomalous spiritual status. If awareness is profound, why weaponise insight? Why miss consequences a mature teacher should detect from dependency, coercion, secrecy, sexual confusion, money-pressure to group distortion? This isnt about abandoning authority and equalising consciousness among persons as it defeats the purpose of growing consciosuness, however being a statistical anomaly that is only a statistical one not an absolute one, does not grant one the privileged status of superiority in the intrinsic being aenae. Awareness should sharpen consequence-detection: less manipulation, clearer consent, deeper humility, harder accountability. Real states can pass through corrupt structures. Then realization is partial, unstable, or ego-colonised. Heres the test as a relatively good rule of thumb: Does awakening make the teacher easier to question, or harder? If harder, it is not teaching. It is hierarchy protected by metaphysics.

I think part of the asymmetry I noticed is that at first I was a normal kid just like all the other boys. After severe harm, I now had a reference point that nobody else had. I could no longer look at typical kid behavior the same way anymore. My reference point had made me more of an alien to everyone else who was fine with grabbing my private parts. Meanwhile, men who experience severe sexual harm seem to be more likely to act outwardly, though it is not always the case. Some become hyposexual rather than hypersexual as in my case. It seems that part of the problem is that I confused this reference point for severe harm for who I am. It seems the jovial nature of a child exists in the absence of this reference point. Once I label this a reference point rather than being enmeshed with it such that an entire identity is spun around this pain, it seems to allow self love to become easier. I'm not really sure who I am if not a reference point around which an identity forms, but I seem to be that which identifies with the point. There was an identity disruption caused by severe harm and the construction of an identity that was crushed before it could form is the project I never quite worked out. I never even managed to get a therapist who specializes in both autism and childhood sexual abuse, meaning I have been required to figure out all of this without professional help. The professionals are compromised by our terrible educational system in America.