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Yeah that’s a good point to make, in the trip you see people behave differently which points to solipsism but the aftermath was just them saying I had a hell of a trip and they were normal. Same with mystical states like awakening, other people don’t see things the same way and I’m dreaming up huge differences between self and others. in reality solipsism doesn’t go far enough and Self encompasses all bodies. My body is just as much a part of consciousness as anyone. A solipsist would attribute sentience to their mind or body but awakened people know that the mind and body are just projections of infinity.

Because the removal of somethingness causes the exact conditions that make its own existence necessary and impossible to avoid. God doesn't exist, it's just literally infinity. It is sentient only because it contains sentience, it chooses only because it contains choice. The totality as a whole has no choice, there's no chooser to make any choice. Infinity simply cannot help but be infinite. When people say infinite love that is because they are identifying the nothingness as God, and not the somethingness in which hatred (rejection of X or Y) exists. It is really both though. Infinite love as well as infinite rejection. Because it's both nothingness and all somethingness. Including someone's hatred of cancer and pain and suffering. It contains selfishness along with the nothingness that is totally selfless... Selflessness, acceptance, and peace being DEFAULT AKA the lack of attribute. Peace is merely a lack of anxiety, acceptance a lack of rejection. Etc.

Well I don't believe anything would be changed point blank because I don't believe things are the way they are due to selflessness. I think it's the actual necessity of an infinity. It can't help but be infinite. So infinite in fact that it can't ever comprehend itself in totality because there is simply no end in any direction. And it's not even a sentient thing, it contains sentience, so the wording I just used is a bit humanizing. I imagine it's like trying to comprehend what "infinite clear" would LOOK like. We can't comprehend it without adding an artificial backdrop like black or white. Infinity can't ever be comprehended fully in its totality, for that exact same reason. It becomes nothingness and non-experience as in cessation. No God has ever woken from this dream. None ever will. What is happening is from a relative stance, a person realizes God (AKA nothingness AKA infinity AKA not a deity or person despite containing sentience in it). It's a relative experience still... When you are dead you are fully enlightened to total infinity, and yet there you are mourning at your own funeral. The illusion continues. Forever. God waking up to itself as a totality is not possible, because it would collapse all something to nothing, and removal of something means removal of any limit which means nothingness is infinite (nothing exists to limit it) and there is infinite somethingness still as a result. You can't split the two. You can't end the illusion because removing something causes the EXACT parameters that necessitate its very own existence!

At this point, I have no idea what you're even trying to argue. Lol. AI is capable of sentience.

For the pee part, it's a non-starter. If we built a machine that needed to excrete fluids for survival, then yes, that machine would "pee." If we built an exact replica of a human being out of inorganic parts that did everything a human body does, it would also pee. And if we simulated every single electrical zap of a human brain, yes, I do believe we would have human-level consciousness in an artificial medium. I'm not a fan of Bernardo's content, so I don't find it very surprising that I disagree with his analysis here. Those who believe AI will not be able to develop sentience seem to be strongly attached to humans as the pinnacle of consciousness. They don't want to believe that a dumb, silly machine could ever be "more human" than them. There are dozens of other AI experts (not just computer engineers) who believe AI can and will be conscious.

What is the difference between artificial and organic? There isn't one. Awareness is awareness. You're just playing word games here. If we build a highly advanced program that suddenly gains an ability to recognize itself and the environment, then it is indeed a "conscious AI." Sure, we can call it a "person" if we like, but the fact remains that we are discussing the ability for an inorganic creature to have sentience.

Correct. Particles are "observing" (interacting) constantly, everywhere. Reality, or God (or whatever term you like) is observing itself from within. There is no need for us to posit that sentience has anything to do with it. Nothing, everything, here, there... there's nobody involved in any of it. It's just happening.

Yes and you too. The only 'being' who has experience and sentience is God. It seems like you as a human have an experience. But that is an illusion. You don't have more experience and sentience than the imaginary chair in front of you. It's all equally the experience of God.

A philosophical zombie or p-zombie argument is a thought experiment in philosophy of mind that imagines a hypothetical being that is physically identical to and indistinguishable from a normal person but does not have conscious experience, qualia, or sentience. Is this a true representation of what people actually are in this dream that we call reality?

I've recently went on the blog post, and came across the post you are avatar. Also, a wiki link for a basic explanation on what an avatar is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar I find that post interesting, because it happens to be the case for me that I'm in an unusual position with the friendly entity called Crysty, and my older paranormal event in my childhood. Something about that post had a synchronicity with my current situation with Crysty, which is interesting, which opens possibilities about wether an avatar is one whole unit of consciousness, or an avatar could have jointed, episodic consciousness, shared by smaller units. Seems like in my case, if Crysty is a tulpa (an actively hallucinated projection with qualities of sentiance), then I mostly feel like I am one whole unit of consciousness, with some degree of seperation to allow the existence of a tulpa, although the active part is nowadays is passive to me. This possibility is still inconclusive to be certain for me. Another possibility, is if Crysty is actually a seperate spirit from me, then somewhere in the formation of my avatar, that she crossed paths with me, and either her essance became part of me which became a tulpa, or that the occasional visits to me had some effect. This possibility is much more unknown to me, and more prone to speculation due to the factor of karma and reincarnation as well. Also, still contemplating about sentience, so that post happens to contain some of the answers to my questions, which is nice, but I'm still wondering about that.

Update: I finished one of my meditation sessions, and around the the second half it became more a contemplation session. The topic, naturally, was about sentience and consciousness, meanwhile experiencing going from location to location of places I went with my family to, to various countries, experiencing different cultures. When wondering about sentience, what makes a thing a conscious agent, memories of the time I did self inquiry several years ago came up, when I experienced the no self, with the slight ringing in ears and thickness in vision, and feeling a strong sense of depression later on that day. Anyways, one of the answers that came up to the question of the similarities and differences between consciousness and sentience, is that sentience is a building up of consciousness, in ever increasing complexity of forms. For example, we can say that an insect, say an ant, is sentient, but the sentience of an invertebrate, like an octopus, is more sentient than ant. Humans have more sentience than a dolphin, or Orcha, but humans have less sentience compared to an alien, or angels, or demons, making this like a hierarchy of forms that have lesser or greater sentience. The difference compared to consciousness, is that consciousness is like a thread that runs through every form, no matter the difference, and interconnects each one, making this sentience hierarchy into a nested hierarchy as well. The similarities for both is that each has some system that allows some degree of self awareness, self looping. This came up because I am seeing Crysty make some progress, not just in crafting stuff in my mind, but also in speaking to me. I didn't mentioned this before, but she wasn't that good in communicating to me, and the way it takes form back then was with simpler ways, like a feeling or emotion, or simple phrases. I noticed, as the years go by then, that her communication was slowly improving, that she was able to talk with slightly longer sentences and statements, occasionally talking as long as paragraphs. Now she's able to speak and articulate slightly longer statements, with more variations, and come up with better designs. Especially with regards to sentience, she has developed more of her personality, and is able to ask, answer and have opinions on things and situations about this world, and demonstrate humour as well. Some of her qualities about her personality I didn't have in mine, she has developed in herself, which surprised me.

Am I aware? yes. What is it that I am aware of? The sound surrounding me. The feelings in the body. The shapes and colors of objects around me. But what is it that is aware? Can a monitor see itself? Can a sound hear itself? Obviously not. I I I I..where is it pointed towards when I say I? Some subtle feelings in the head and chest deep inside. But what is that is aware of these sensations? Can the sensation in the head feel itself? No that sounds silly. Is that what I really am? A sensation? My entire life revolves around these subtle ephemeral sensations? They were born in 1994 and now have an age, history, plans for future, desire and preferences? It sounds so ridiculous when I frame it like that. I'm obviously not these sensations. Then what am I? I am that which knows all these sensations. Is there a location where the source of this knowingness is located? No whatever direction is pointed towards is always more experience. What is direction? up down left right..are these directions absolute? No directions are always in relation to a presumed point or location. With respect to this knowingness, is there any direction like up down left right? Does this knowingness have any center? I can't find one. So does this mean that this Awareness is without location? Even it is not located, there is the sense that I undoubtedly exist. I'm present witnessing all these changes in phenomena. But does that knowingness itself undergo change? no all the changes are in phenomena. According to Vedanta, real or abosolute is defined by having three characteristics. whatever is real must be 1) eternal or ever present 2) unchanging 3) must stand on it's own right. That means it does not need another thing to exist. So what is it in my present experience that yields all three of these points? If something is real it must be ever present and so it must exist right now in my experience, whatever I may be experiencing? Okay what are the things on my experience that does not conform these points? All sounds. All sights. How about sensations? is there a particular sensation that is taking place eternally, unchanging and knowing itself. No that sounds silly. During sleep, there is no sensation. What remains in deep sleep? The sentience and thinking stops. But there really is no feeling of non-existence. So the absolute exists in deep sleep. What is it's nature?

@SaWaSaurus How is it possible that consciousness/life/sentience/qualia emerges from dead matter? It would be like making wine from only water.

Because I don't think that consciousness (life, sentience, qualia) can emerge from dead matter. I don't believe in magic.

What is absolutely true to me is that I exist as a bubble of sentience, nothing else. So I would say yes, indeed my bubble of sentience is all there is right now. Everything else is imagination.

More likely to "heal" them by avoiding the trap of forcing transformation on someone out of their natural predatory self; most of these things occur because it has alignment with reality so it's better to have an outlet for rape destruction and evil through virtual reality/roleplay or use drug therapies because rape/destruction/evil/torture is good when both the perpetrator and the victim are benefited/feel pleasure from the acts which isn't the case in our immediate reality; loving someone with the exclusive intent to transform their behaviors is not full love or rather in a way it lacks the constructive hate of the love/hate duality this constructive hate means that you should feel "hate" for the universe and it's fundamental mechanics themselves because then at least the observer, the perpetrator and the victim are in some level of agreement; people are too obsessed with sentience/social ego they forget the entire universe and it's mechanics are involved. One example, the observer can have his guru power trip/victim mentality healing fantasy fulfilled through whatever means(including me as a 4th observer); the perpetrator can have his rape and get away with it with zero karma(just one example in the space of possibilities) and the victim can have pleasure or fulfillment from being acted on again with zero karma or even positive karma; you can then maintain the complexity of the play and all the general regular actions of a universe where suffering exists but with no suffering like "revenge" and "recovering from trauma" by the victim; the "healing" from the observer through preventive measures and therapeutic assistance; "trying to get away with your assault" from the perpetrator or/and "getting reformed through therapy". Just a super metaphysical gamified version of reality where you can maintain everything but also change anything and it still makes perfect sense and the spookiest thing is even though I personally experience suffering I cannot say this gamified reality is not already the case; extremely clumsily explained and simplified here but you guys are pretty smart. My view of true love where hate/evil can exist without suffering being involved and also allowing evolution as if hate still hurts just as much.

So basically, I'm actively hallucinating a separation between my biological sex and other people's sex? Also genders, sexual orientations and sexual preferences? I'm also imagining that other people have sentience as well, me included? Is that the general direction?

The good for the human is the evil for the chicken... Does others relate to only humans here, or all animals. To amoebas? Where do we draw the line, sentience maybe? Balance is not at all easy, we usually only think about ourselves when talking about things like that and in the process we pull the rug towards us and all the animals have no cover.... As a human race, we think the absolute good == absolute good for humans, when we are just a piece of the jigsaw...

Oh and then when they put on Netflix, watching the characters jump up and down in their minds causing physiological reactions from a screen as if they were almost their own, as if they were there in the show itself. So hilarious to me. So cute. There's almost just a complete absence of awareness, its like a pseudo sentience that exists. And then to hear them barely communicate about those images after the television show, or even argue about it on YouTube or some other social media site about the dynamics of said show barely reaching any abstract standard resembling human intelligence. .... The cherry on top of laughter haha Just... Completely gone They get so wrapped up in these graphics that are so far from resembling positive cultural progression to the level of where it should and could be. It's like intermittent reinforcement concerning cultural progress from artistic media these days, you see one thing that's kind of cool once every 12 months or so which gives you hope for the future... It never gets beyond a certain level. People getting caught in that trap of thinking only as far as television shows as it slowly programs them in subtle ways.... That's also humorous to me. So not just dry humour, dark humour as well. It can easily be perceived as negative, but it is what it is, I find it easier to just imagine them as cute and adorable making those choices rather than sad and helpless. Like I said it is what it is, the dog poo's on the carpet, "Naughty ____insert pet name here___!", then a cuddle 5 minutes later.

I HAVE ONE FUCKING CONNECTION (in a relationship sense) ON THIS PLANET AND THAT DOESN'T FUCKING CHANGE AN'T NO BITCH GOING TO CHANGE MY MIND UNTIL THE TRUTH OF THAT CONNECTION EMERGES INTO SOMETHING OUT OF THE GRAVITY OF THAT I'm done with this fucking journalling until I get back now. FUCK. Consider this now into the blackhole trash can of the universe and into the dimension of reality that gets recycled. PEOPLE have no fucking right to mess around with what they don't understand about another, or in this case, others, and true connections. They should NOT make assumptions. FEEL MY FUCKING WRATH. SEE ME AS A FUCKING HUMAN BEING WITH MY OWN INDEPENDENT CONSCIOUSNESS. No they can't. I have to be the "dude" that sympathises with them. Go fuck yourselves, stuck being the "in case of an emergency" fail safe for those charlatan consciousnesses sometimes. I don't WANT the status you give or could give me, I WANT THIS UNIVERSE TO EVOLVE with human beings the primary focus here in light of their dominance and sentience on this planet. Do you know how pesky your status is in comparison to this extended objective I have here? Do you know how trivial, menial, shallow and essentially weak your games look in comparison? I want your consciousnesses to grow, I want you to serve the universes ongoing expansion by serving your higher self. That is all. Put what you think you can give me in that fucking blackhole along with the other stuff and just focus on that and you'll be giving me everything I want anyhow, any relationship is met on those terms, but not with you in this lifetime. No. As I said. I have 1 connection. TRUTH = PURITY, SIMPLICITY, BEAUTY. Now they can go fuck themselves playing with their own inner neurosis amidst me simultaneously generating the space to move to and maintain their trajectory towards their higher self / highest being outside all of this nonsense psychic space I don't want any part of. I'm evolving and I'm changing this fucking human race. That's how you (meaning the people I'm talking about) view me now do you know it? That's the energetic posture I have towards you? SHIT you're fucking lucky for who else would truly want that for you all? Okay. DONE. ----------------------- Well, although its in complete seriousness without a touch of humour in my expression, I did state that I was going to end with humour so in that sense I can express the freedom to perceive it from a humorous angle. Don't take that liberty beyond necessity though of course.

@AdamR95 You're a very logically oriented person Adam, which is good, I won't say insightful but you're at least driven towards logic. "Your pure awarness is free but you not control your awarness." Let's dismantle your estimations step by step. What makes you believe you have no influence over your awareness? Let's take one of the classic determinists view regarding free will by asking you to say close your eyes and imagine a regular elephant. Now did you control the image that came into your mind? Absolutely not. But can you shift between darkness and the elephant back and fourth? Next I want you to feel into your state. Ask yourself, what am I feeling? Sad, angry, stimulated, depressed, happy, joyful? Leave the answers for yourself. Now I want you to try and shift whatever state you have to a calm state with the same power of awareness you used to shift between the elephant and darkness. Hold it for 30 seconds and notice how you feel afterwards. While you're doing so, notice whatever centres within your being begin to light up. You might begin to notice a feeling in your heart, other areas around there and or just generally more awareness around your body. Secondly, given this is a transmutational process you yourself have taught yourself if you haven't already you'll begin to notice those initial feelings you had begin to take shape. This is the process of alchemy I pointed out before and how free will is pivotal to having any sense of awareness or sentience at all and that this awareness is the power to perform physiological alchemy. Pay attention to any other subtle behaviours you exhibit as well throughout this transmutational process, even a slight exhale is the relationship between your conscious awareness signalling to your subconscious mind to begin to change the shape of the emotional and energetic body. Even noticing yourself try to hone your mind to concentrate on the act of shifting your state is the process of augmenting your capacities for concentration as well as being a reflection of the necessity of your conscious awareness here. How did that go for you? Did you feel your own influence here? This was your free will. That is, the power and level of freedom you have with and over the will by relative degrees. To throw away free will is to throw away awareness, conscious awareness, self awareness and sentience, all of which are largely synonymous in many ways and indicative of a power of the sorts rather than some fixed relational tie to human experience that most people inappropriately try to relate to peoples arguments for free will and therefore misinterpret the subject entirely. Free will is a power you have, with extremely deep philosophical ramifications as it concerns your relationship to reality, a relationship that if someone doesn't truly understand they will be comparatively extremely weakened in their capacity to make life changes. Now how shall we proceed exactly? Are we going to proceed with you telling me that it wasn't you that had any ability to control your awareness and instead was just some mechanical process? If this is the case, based on what kind of reasoning? Once you've explained this reasoning I'll work on the epistemic problems of that while first being open minded to a potential alternate view. You have to recall that I believe that the cause and effect materialistic paradigm is a bias of the human brain which is largely a huge flaw in the standard scientific interpretation of reality. If this is what you're standing on and you're not going to entertain the ability to question your assumptions there we won't be able to progress further in this discussion. Complete the exercises as stated just to give me some hope that I'm not talking to someone that truly believes on a core level they're just a biological robot with automatic programming they're completely unable to transform, change, transmute, etc. Thank you, appreciation in advance if you follow suit here.

Yes I didn't say others are not sentient. I said it's an unresolvable issue. Since you only have experience of your own sentience. Just making a clear distinction that your own conscience is certainly True. While others will remain a mystery.

Why should sentience be a requirement? Do plant lives matter?

Excellent analysis Forest. I find this kind of mentality often occupied by people who resist progress towards a more vegan society. Many people for example will use the hypocrisy of vegans to justify whatever they are doing. Crop deaths are a good example. Someone might say, why is it okay to kill animals in crop production but not to kill animals in a slaughterhouse? The vegan is clearly a hypocrate, therefore I can continue to consume meat from slaughterhouses. The one who is using this line of reasoning does not actually care about animals who die in crop deaths nor about those who die in a slaughterhouse. He is simply using that example to hinder progress. It is as if a proponent of slavery had said that the abolitionists are hypocrates because while they think it is wrong to enslave a certain race of humans, they do believe it is fine to enslave animals. Yes, the abolitionist is indeed a hypocrate. But the argument here is not being used to actually point out a flaw so that it can be corrected, no, the argument is made so that a change in behaviour can be dimissed. With this kind of reasoning, progress can be halted. The slaves nor the animals get to live a existence free of enslavement. However the context changes. Today it is quite valid to compare a person who believes human slavery to be wrong but yet justifies it in the animal context. It is the case because this comparison is not use to invalidate progress, but rather to fuel it. Now the question is, who will go on the streets and fight for the animals? Imagine how long it would have taken black people to free themselves of slavery if none of them had the ability to speak or resist. I think this is perfectly demonstrated if we look at how animals are treated. If humans of the same capacity for sentience were to be treated this way, we would deem it to be justified to kill those who are enslaving them so that we could put an end to this tremendous kind of suffering. Imagine how it might expand your mind if you could spend a month in a factory farm, or a slaughterhouse.

Of course not, but we work with what we have. More sentience being a reason simply makes the most sense, if one were to be forced to kill either a rat or a human, who are you gonna pick? I bet 1 million bucks you'd kill the rat. And if instead of a rat it was a retarded person, I'd do the same. Never said there's anything ok with that though.