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Well, you need to open your mind to the possibility of accessing raw, absolute truth unmediated by any interprations or perceptions or science or anything. Pure TRUTH exists. You can access it. But you cannot access it while believing in science, brains, perception, and other such nonsense. Love and Truth is everything that every could be experienced. But bliss is like a feeling. It comes and goes. Most of your life will not be spent in feelings of bliss. Even if you are being tortured it is Truth/Love, but not bliss. Yes, your true nature is peace because it is Nothing. Happiness is more of an emotion that comes and goes.

That pain is itself Love, because Love does not exclude any feeling. But it’s hard to call that pain bliss, wouldn’t you agree?

@How to be wise When you imagine yourself to be a body and a character you're also free to imagine all kinds of horrible things happening to them, or to imagine them doing horrible things. Realizing the very Source of this freedom is bliss. This freedom never forces itself on you though, you have to go to it willingly. And being away from it, imagining yourself as nothing but a vulnerable or bad or in whatever way lacking character, that hurts like hell. Cause that's not what you really are.

Getting raped is Love. But is it bliss?

What??!! This made me confused. I have always sought the Truth because it feels good, If God doesn't equal Bliss then How does it even be? If the Truth doesn't feel good, who will seek it?

@Leo Gura What's the difference between Love and Bliss? Not the thought of it, but the experience? Is Love not Consciousness Itself? Is Truth a thought?

Never What kind of fool do you take me for? The truth is rarely bliss. Like I said, that is merely a side-effect. Like smoke from a fire.

Don't you chase the truth because it feels Good? Isn't the Truth = Bliss? So you are actually chasing bliss?

False? Lol. That's nonsense. It's Absolute Truth. But you miss the point. It's not about the bliss. You're not chasing that bliss, you're simply becoming conscious of Absolute Truth and the bliss is just a side-effect of that. When you are infinitely conscious it's just natural that bliss occurs. I never do psychedelics for the purpose of pleasure. But if pleasure comes, I won't say no. Him is the construct. Infinite Consciousness/Love is the true "him". It's just that he needs to peddle human bullshit to his followers. Bentinho can't tell his followers that they will never reach Infinite Consciousness without DMT or they would leave him. You will NEVER reach DMT levels of consciousnesses through self-inquiry or meditation. That is the truth. What these self-inquiry people are teaching you is something far less than that because they don't know how to get you access to DMT levels of consciousness. Psychedelics are not about bliss, they are about increasing one's consciousness. That he doesn't get this is sad.

I have taken the life purpose course, and have a clearer idea of what my life purpose is. The first step to achieving this purpose is research and embody all of the topics covered in actualized.org plus some. As you probably know, THERE ARE A SHITTON OF TOPICS. I do not know where to start. I keep finding one topic to focus and study and work with then another one sparks "my bliss" or whatever and I keep jumping from topic to topic. How do you know where the best place to start is? Or is it just a leap of faith?

@AuthenticSelf Yes, not saying you don't, just the real You is not attached to it. Nothing is always here and now, infinite bliss is here and now, there is nothing to end. There is no where to go, there is not a difference between life & death. There isn't an after there is only Now. There is nothing outside Now.

I absolutely agree. I'm enlightened but I'm still working the same job as I was before - for now. No magic superpowers either . Hence why I created this thread to see how I can apply it to improve my egoic life. I can see how I kind of derailed my own thread by not making that more clear. It's simply like acquiring a new lens for your life. I was asking other users of said lens on how to tune it best to enjoy the view. Is it a better lens than the default that my life came with? No question. I didn't know it was possible to feel bliss all the time, or on queue when you want it. I wasn't even looking for enlightenment. I don't mean to sound like I'm unappreciative of it, while others are still trying to achieve it. It's definitely possible for everyone seeking, and not even that hard in retrospect. It's one of those simple but not easy things.

Hello! I am new here and am grateful to be a part of this community. I started meditating couple of years ago to ease my rumination. In the beginning I used to forcibly push away my thoughts because my view on meditation was that of being in a state of bliss. As time went on I came to the realization that by not accepting my thoughts I only make it worse. My mind is in a better place now. In a way I am new to thoughts and would like to learn more about it. My question is: How do you use meditation for constructive and analytical thinking and how do you apply it in your relationships, work and life overall? Thank you!

No thought or idea is ultimate. What is ultimate/absolute must by definition be what is already, unknowable because it is every object in appearance. There can be no real seperation from all there is. All realizations are what is, but revealed in them is not more what is than what is. The belief that an ultimate truth will ever be realized or achieved is a sign of the dream, it is a belief that you are seperate and that you need answers to become whole or to find home. All there is already is home, and it is appearing as this. It never moves and is simultaneously ever changing. It is not bliss, it is this. Reaaaally disappointing for the seeker, haha. People really can't hear that enlightenment isn't about them, somewhere there is an expectation in every seeker that some end or final state of endless happiness will come and fireworks will go off and they'll know for sure that they've made it. See how obvious it is that even you don't know what you are seeking, nothing you can come up with is satisfying forever, it is a dream based on false hope.

In this video, between 1:01:12 and 1:02:19, Bentinho describes this painfully intense Universal Bliss that he felt during his last DMT trip, just like Leo described in his last blog update. And he goes on to say that he doesn't want that, because it's not Him, but a construct. And the reason that it's painful is because it is false. That everything is below YOU and only that, which is below, can be amplified. My contemplation tells me that he is accurate about ME being above anything that can appear or that can have a description, but psychedelic experiences offer contrast/learning for being in the human experience, so they have value on multiple levels, including but not being limited to, selfish/survival needs all the way to Pure Understanding and levels of consciousness. I'm wondering of your thoughts about this

Law of Attraction points to the experience of your "reality" being far stranger than you think. It goes beyond ideas of legit or not. It's more "true" than most things we consider true though. It deals with the truth we create for ourselves and shows us how to create it consciously. The law of attraction is about having greater awareness and focus, and recognizing that the core of every desire is the desire to feel better. This becomes your focus, over believing your thoughts blindly and continually noticing that you are now where you want to be. It is the basis for change. It is the realization that when we feel amazing, we notice amazing things, and good things and thoughts come to us. When we drop resistance and stop noticing what is thoughts we've never had can come in. An insight is a just a thought you've never had before. Law of attraction would teach you that this approach might be off, if you focus on your blockages and limiting beliefs thinking you need to get rid of them before you are free to create your life, your focus on your limitations is actually holding them in place. Making intentions or rather, allowing your desires, is what bring the blocks into light and is the power and momentum you need to blow through them. Awareness over your thoughts of control reveals your true power. "Purer" is a thought that limits and gets into judgement and good and bad and what other people thing territory. The better feeling your ideas the faster you will attract them into your experience. This is how you and only you measure the purity of them. It's beyond choice and not choice. Allowing desires is also like surrendering them. When you really, really know what you want, there's' no choice at all. For example if I offer you the choice between your favorite desert and your least favorite food, you'd say "it's no choice". It IS but you're just VERY clear about what you want. The awareness that the law of attraction "teaches" makes you very clear about you want in the same way, it's a choice but also at the same time it's not because you're so clear about it. If you're interested in learning more check out Abraham Hicks, she is AMAZING. It's also amazing to see how this all fits in with all this other consciousness work stuff, meditation and nonduality, etc. Not to mention the bliss and happiness, forgiveness, understanding and abundance of new possibility, creativity and ideas that floods in.

Perpetual existential cosmic orgasmic bliss unfathomable by the human mind then it keeps getting more orgasmic and blissful then keeps going thenkeeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going then keeps going... ?

As an observation from the point of view of someone who has had individuals in my family and around my abuse hard drugs a lot in my early life and for prolonged periods of time; I think hard drugs increase self-deception by a huge amount in some people. Sometimes uncontrollably. Bliss isn't always a given with these drugs, I think it perpetuates the notion that you as yourself have something missing and that you need something to fill an emptiness. And from my perspective I would say permanently. (even my sister has become deluded via hard drugs). She doesn't aspire to anything. In the UK we have qualifications in school that are taken by 15-16 year old called GCSEs. She's 29 with none of those. Doesn't want a job, doesn't want any form of education, wouldn't want to return, feeds off of the welfare and benefits we have here in UK. Just a 'need' to do hard drugs. Alcohol, cocaine, heroin, pretty much anything, sometimes putting her young childrens' mental health on the line. The use of drugs lead her to create issues in the community and within other individuals. She is also not blissed out constantly. She comes down to a level of 'bliss' that is precisely the reverse of what she had felt on the drugs. With psychedelics I'm much more certain the 'bliss' and lessons learned from the trip can be integrated and slowly coaxed into being revealed to the sober mind.

Other drugs can also show you that. The bliss you experience on psychedelics is different from drugs like heroin/cocaine/ketamine etc., you could say the bliss is more rewarding in a way. With psychedelics it's not guaranteed that you will have a good time, while hard drugs will always feel good (if you dont do them to much). The main difference for me is after you take 'hard drugs' you will feel bad after the effects wear off and lots of times you dont feel good for a week or so. But when I have an amazing psychedelic experience, for the next two weeks I feel better then I do usually and there is no down. So you could say the price you pay for psychedelics is different compared to 'hard drugs'

Yeap, can only recommend psychedelics. Hard drugs are a waste of time and if you are not careful you can wreck your life with them. All the bliss that hard drugs provide you can get with psychedelics. It just that it will demand more responsibility of you. But it's the only intelligent way.

Psychedelics produce bliss and euphoria too, but it usually comes at the price of high vulnerability. In more vulgar words, I would say with normal drugs you always have control, in psychedelics the higher you go the less control you usually have. I think this difference it's makes 'hard drugs' easy to abuse, while with psychedelics not.

Isnt that they both produce the mind dissolving effects which leads to bliss?

I did. I will admit perhaps I sound unimpressed with my own enlightenment because I haven't yet satisfied my egoic goals. Trite, but even Buddha got to be a Prince first before his enlightenment. Yes it's absolutely incredible to feel bliss of being the infinite consciousness behind the ego, but after that... what? If I wanted to feel it I'd just off myself, rejoin the infinite consciousness and feel enlightenment for eternity. I don't understand - though respect their choice - people who shun the world and just mainly chill in their human enlightenment. I am driven to leave a dent in the egoic world with my life purpose, that's just the game I feel called for, being that the only meaning available in life is the one I give it.

Well, I did some tests based on my previous posts about involvement, I am far from conclusions and there is lot more to be done to clarify stuff, know how it works and how to get there in easy way and it for sure will not fix your ego problems. Don't want to make any claims and will just put it as I understand it at this moment. There are things like overlays of experience that encompass rest of things that happen in experience, might be just brain chemical but who cares, main thing is it changes how you connect to same behaviours ,actions, ego talk and so on. So this involvement, or love changes this overlay of experience and encompass you with different energy, thing with this energy is that it does not care what you do it is sorta like bliss, you are good no matter what, but , it is also dangerous to navigate for reasons. And yes it is completely sustainable, not 1 h, 1 day thing.

You aren't going crazy. Just the opposite, in fact Nothing in excess, including enlightenment. It is an upward spiral of awakenings, accompanied by ego battles, because the ego knows that truth will destroy it. Continue your spiritual practice, staying present as much as you can, and realize that the battle has just begun. The bliss will be followed by dark nights of the soul, like a train moving through a sequence of tunnels, punctuated by soul-searing light.