Search the Community

Exactly. But I'll expand on that. When i awakened it wasn't even about letting go or achievement it was from a place of complete spiritual ignorance and just a curiosity into what is like a child might wonder about a toy or the sky. Nothing more. Ignorance is bliss. But spiritual knowledge could lead to the desire for achievement as you say - and therein you will be doomed to never discover Truth. The same can be said for psychedelics as much as you may want to dispute that. It is really no different than meditation.

not fully, you stay here in hope of getting one last line of this yumyum icecream or maybe we will get infinite bliss tech & gene editing immortality and feeling eternally satiated by the moment

I wish to share a little story with you about this entire journey most of us are on... I will start with my own to make the connection. Every since i was born I intuitively felt something was quite off about this world, growing up in a western way of life, everyone seemed very disconnected from what truly is, disconnected from the natural being or true self or nature of who we truly are, but I could never clearly make sense of it all until my 21st birthday. I had my reawakening back around 2011, this was even before stronger plant-medicines came into my life, and I am very grateful I realized who I truly was before I jumped onto the other trains, for I had my true-ground or source-within or center to revert back to, that I am never shaken by these experiences or the mystica of substances and neo-spirituality, for they only tickle and enchant the mind that does not know, rather "thinks" it knows, especially after an experience or trip, yet the true self (which does not trip or hallucinate, which is awareness itself) remains untouched and phased. And its been quite wild ever since, and one of the biggest lessons for me and for many I am noticing (especially those who glimpse enlightenment prematurely) mostly through substance abuse, is that there is a severe lack of grounding or connection / understanding of the earth, rather purely working from a mentally internalized perspective and projection of consciousness, which speaks the truth conceptually, yet fails to land in the hearts of men, for it has no (true-ground) from which its roots have developed to be reverberated effectively and recognized as true wisdom. I see a lot of energy today is being pushed, especially (online) keeping people away from the Earth or Mother aspect, so they put more energy into the (artificiality) or online world, or the religious "Father" or "God" who is invisible and never to be reached, and thus they are met with half-baked enlightenment or astral / mental bliss, caught in a never-ending cycle, that is toxic to themselves and others around them, (that many of us can see now, especially on these forums) for they are illuminated only through the mind, and not awakened through the heart. They remain un-grounded and never truly accessing heart-centered awareness and being fully with the people and life on earth, to be truly of service and using our entire bodies more so than just our minds, and so they remain quite distant and disconnected from being with body and truly feeling what it is to be truly alive and experience life in its very essence here on this beautiful earth. They spend far more time online and disconnected from the natural world, and thus almost completely disembodying and contradicting what they preach. At the same time it is not anyone's fault, its just that they have never touched upon a taste of the divine in other ways, so when they touch upon it or glimpse through one way, they are convinced that "this is it", when in reality, it is only partly it. Rather it is one side of a three-sided coin, the third being the merge of the opposing two. These last 10 - 15 years I have been exploring the earth and body more, all over the world, before that I was exploring the mind and higher realms, and what i have learned is that neither is the full picture, yet the merge of the two is what Enlightenment truly is, for Awakening is the opening, seeing, recognizing, and Enlightenment is the embodying, rooting, stabilizing, being. I realized that there are also those, especially in the native and indigenous cultures who can also be (too earthly) and not open to a higher light or true due to eons of tradition, culture and rigid beliefs, that what the Buddha taught as (the middle way) was the very Tao or Truth or Way in a nutshell. It always comes back to balance, and when you are in total balance in all aspects of self, supreme beingness can be. I realized something observing children especially, and how they connected and meditated, was interesting because it reminds me of when I was a child too and what happens during intense experiences or states where everything becomes overwhelming, we naturally revert back down to the ground, (think of when we are sick, or drunk or too high), the body naturally knows what to do. And this goes back to ancient times were people were found often lying down on their backs by a tree or in the bushes somewhere, with hands and feet spread apart, almost like a star or a cross, and that is how they connected to God or "the Father", so to speak... They intuitively knew only through (the Mother) the connection will be stable, grounded and secure. If we deny the Mother (the earth), we deny the very medium that allows the Father to be known. In essence, you cannot reach the Father without the Mother. The Divine is immanent in the earth and body; we experience God through life, matter, and presence. And this is the issue with modern spirituality and neo-non-duality and the words and teachings people are sharing online, they are missing the full picture. Remember what is natural is home, god-thought materialized, divine or infinite intelligence, what is artificial is borrowed and secondary, a tool. We built temples to connect-with-god not realizing the very temple of nature itself God had already provided, then we wondered why we felt disconnected and struggle to see, hear, feel God's presence and guidance. And this is the very essence of Buddha and Christs teachings, but many have become distorted over-time by the hand of man. You can be in the most spectacular temple full of psychedelic artwork, gems, stones, incense and chants and nothing will provide a more solid and divine connection as what nature already had since the beginning. You can try it yourself, go into a forest floor and lay there, compare that to some man-made place. In 5 minutes you can tap in deeper than 50 minutes in a room full of artificial walls and electronics / noises / discordant frequencies. Otherwise these things would of been created first, and life on earth would be supreme brilliance, garden of eden, paradise, not what it appears to be today. Now don't get me wrong, I know this can be triggering to those who rely on the artificial matrix and online world, more so then they'd like to admit, I have nothing against using a tool, but remember its a "tool" and remember that the tool needs to be put down every once in a while and look up, there's a whole world out there, more real and beautiful and alive than any tool ever created by man, the tools only tickle the mind, yet the hearts remain empty... These teachers may teach that the world is an illusion, but does that really give you peace? No, you see most of these people miserable, depressed and suicidal, because life is meant to be lived, not observed. If you are not (participating) in the world you are a dead-letter, you may see through the illusion but if you are not alive and "living"... See the illusion, but enjoy the play, because the play is whats truly alive, the essence of it, the experience of it, that's needed for a rich quality life. Its like looking at a rose saying "this rose is an illusion" rather the child smells the rose, feels the sensations, doesn't know that its to be labelled or called a rose, rather its simply being a natural extension of nature or divine intelligence itself, interacting with itself in a most intimate way, and that is what enlightenment truly is, to be intuitively aware of the Oneness, yet fully immersed in the experience of separateness. In a nutshell... Remember you are Nature and Nature is you, so its always both, its not one or the other. I woke up with the energy to share this, I trust it may spark something within you. Blessings ~

How the fuck do two people have sex, she gets pregnant, accidental or not, you pop out the oven as a new born with no blueprint for life and dependent on your ignorant ass parents or whomever just as ignorant as the next, didn't ask to cone here but you're expected to figure it out or you'll pay the price for two horny fucks who just wanted to have some fun. Tell me, huh, tell me. Why the fuck are we telling people they need to figure out life if they want to be happy, get it right or else, give them work to do to not be a loser like their horny ass parents who don't know their ass from their big toe either and had to figure out life too because their horny ass parents didn't know Jack shit either and let's just go all the way back to phantom Adam and Eve. Why the hell is it up to the unconsenting(sic) child to now listen to your dumb ignorant ass telling them either they suffer or live in bliss but they have to be conscious and do the right thing. They didn't fucking ask to be here so why is it that they should have to go through this hell of a hole in suffering. Why the hell do you think it's up to them to make the right choices now since they were plopped on Mother Earth with their own fingerprints to keep track of them and their behavior. Don't you see something wrong with this fucking picture and if they want to exist this hell hole, it's a fucking problem and others will try to deter them while their life sucks too but they want company to feel the suckiness. Stop telling people what they should or should not be doing with a life they never asked for on how to be happy and stop asking how do I be happy. No one can tell you how to be happy and stop trying to control the emotions of life because they're not there for you to control. I can't believe I'm talking like this. This is insane. Life is insane. Nothing is right. It's all fucked up. Having you believing you're supposed to be doing something to feel a certain way or else you'll stay miserable when you didn't ask to come here. Needing gurus and bearded men to market themselves telling you how to get enlightened so you don't have to suffer your parent's choices and be in heaven. Nobody sees anything wrong this because they're too busy trying to feel good or better about their existence. Nobody complains much about why the fuck do i need you to tell me who I am and how to live a life i never asked for and if they do, others are telling them there's always hope for the never-coming future or they want to institutionalize those who want to exit and call them crazy for wanting to leave this fucked up place and cheer on new-born unsuspecting babies for entering this hell hole. Or is this really the case.

@Hojo Entire conversation stems from a misunderstanding of identity and being. im not a self in a human body, there is a human experience taking place in awareness. I am the same awareness in which both the waking experience, dream experience and deep sleep appear to take place. After all, how do you even know about dreams if they aren't happening to the same you? Are you communicating with another you to get the dreams? No. They appear to the same you, before you give it a character identity and start thinking. Deep sleep is another story, there are no objects of experience there, there is nothing to remember. Its pure awareness without content. Who told you you understand awareness? Has no objective qualities it just is, there is nothing to stand under. Its being itself, existence consciousness bliss

They are just other focal points of consciousness, other concurrent lives/selves existing simultaneously because time/past are illusions. No different than dreams. Its all overlays within the Source-Field, you could call them 'resonance fields'. Like rays of the sun, your higher self or true self or Source, being the sun, and simultaneous lives or versions of yourself are all the rays it emits, that occasionally overlap each other, which also what is happening when we experience Deja vu ect.. @Schahin You don't need $500, you can find many self-hypnosis / past life regression guides and techniques on youtube for free if that interests you, otherwise simply allow things to naturally unfold. In deep meditation I once woke up in an alien body and my vision was bluish-green, it was really strange but also interesting experience but never really dwelled on it too much. I was getting into all the mystical stuff until the bliss of being took over. Then all the superpowers were dropped with the mind who seeked them and seeked these mystical experiences.

Ego embraces Your Identity, Opinions/Beliefs, Personality, and allows a Sense of Separation (this is important for Spirituality to exist!).. The Death of Ego means Your Identity is gone, and so is the sense of Separation, Your Experience of that of Completeness and Connection to Everything, but Your Intellect is still intact, Your Personality is there, but You choose when to use it, it doesn't Use You! Enlightenment is the highest Potential for a Human Being to Exist in Experiencially, its all of the above, but the Energies within are super Intense all the time, Your very Present Moment Aware, Peace and Bliss are always there in the background and can be as intense as You want it too be.. Your relatively Healthy, Compassion and Love (including others as Yourself) are natural to You, You dislike only the Actions of the person or thing, not the person or thing itself! You play this Human Game, deal with all situations with openness and clarity, your not a know it all, but are curious about a bunch of things... This is the last Incarnation, no more body/mind complexes to go into again, you merge with Absolute, no individuality anymore!

This is the illusion and the very reveal that exposes the trap. This is where the ground and the earth from which you stand is disregarded and you are swept of thy feet with an invisible power that never delivers, rather only provides a false mental bliss, no different than those who abuse psychedelics. Here is the truth and words of Christ, your heart will reveal unto you what is true (by how it feels) in your being. "Teach the people to work on the base of their beings,” he was saying, in a voice that was like a chant. “You would like them to have wings to fly, while in reality they have yet to find their feet. If they do not recognize the Earth as the Mother who feeds them, who nurses them, you may expect that they will spend their whole lives desperately seeking my Father." If we deny the Mother (the earth), we deny the very *medium* that allows the Father to be known. In essence, you cannot reach the Father without the Mother. The Divine is immanent in the earth and body; we experience God through life, matter, and presence.

God is a playful energy, much closer to true Non-Duality because it doesn't ignore Duality. And it is Infinite, even Infinite beyond Infinity itself, and Infinite beyond Itself. Ahahahaha. This is a profound and precise statement that reveals the essence of the divine. God as playful energy embodies the principle of joy and lightness of being, allowing a person to feel inner freedom and harmony. This interpretation emphasizes the dynamism and fluidity of spiritual experience, offering a way beyond strict definitions and dogmatism. God is not a frozen image or a static force, but a living, ever-changing energy, manifesting through the play and interaction of opposites. It is this quality of play that allows one to maintain balance and flexibility, preserving a sense of freedom and inner lightness. Non-duality does not deny the existence of duality, but rather incorporates it into the overall picture of the world, making it part of a unified whole. This approach brings us closer to a profound understanding of the essence of God and the meaning of human existence. This perspective is particularly resonant with Eastern spiritual traditions such as Hinduism and Buddhism, where duality is perceived as an integral part of our existence. The principle of lila ("play") in Hindu philosophy illustrates the idea that the entire universe is a grand interplay of divine energies, encompassing both light and dark energies. The playful nature of the Divine expresses the joy of creativity, freedom of expression, and the absence of rigid boundaries. It invites us to let go of control and enjoy the journey, opening ourselves to new experiences and possibilities. After all, it is in play that creativity, inspiration, and spontaneity are born, allowing us to uncover the deepest layers of our soul and come closer to a true understanding of truth. Thus, seeing God as playful energy becomes the key to perceiving reality as a field of infinite possibilities, where boundaries are erased and unity is revealed through the diversity of forms and manifestations. Natural expression of unity: Playfulness implies a free, relaxed manner of interacting with the surrounding world. It is a state of mind free from rigid boundaries and limitations, allowing one to easily move from one aspect of reality to another, sensing the unity of all that exists. Non-separation: In a state of playfulness, the division between subject and object, observer and observed, disappears. Everything merges into a single stream of consciousness, which is close to the state of Non-duality, where differences are perceived as conditional and temporary. Creative process: Play involves creating new combinations, experimenting, and exploring the unknown. This quality of creative energy is inherent in Non-duality, which allows for the manifestation of a multitude of forms and phenomena while remaining the unified foundation of all. Spontaneity and openness: Playfulness is accompanied by a sense of mild uncertainty and a readiness for everything new. This attitude allows one to openly embrace the different sides of reality, including duality, and integrate them into a unified picture. Joy and pleasure: The emotional component of playfulness—the joy and pleasure of the process—is close to the state of bliss characteristic of experiences of Nonduality. It arises when a person frees themselves from attachments and prejudices, enjoying every moment of life. Thus, energetic playfulness serves as a bridge between everyday experience and the state of Nonduality, helping one overcome artificial barriers and immerse oneself in direct contact with the depth and fullness of being.

There is Basic Awareness via the 5 senses, yes they don't tell Us Everything, every little detail but they tell Us enough to allow us to live another day, and if Our Thinking Process was not so identified with they would be enhanced for each individual, almost as good as dogs or cats when it comes to smell, sight and hearing.. Since our neurological system is the most complex and integrated that too allows us a sense of Awareness that most living things do not have.. Then there is Spiritual Awareness which is not via the 5 senses, it is in this area that they say Awareness is Vast, because now Your not just Aware of the Physical realm but the Spiritual One which is everything that is non physical in nature.. You are made up of 5 Bodies, Physical, Mental, Energy, Etheric, Bliss Body, each one is more subtle than the previous one, Energy is the most subtle on the physical side, after that the Etheric is half physical half non physical, Bliss Body is not physical in nature.. So if Your intouch with those last 3 to a high degree, Your Awareness is the size of the Universe!

I am God,I am Infinite Love . I am so powerful that I imagine this present moment ,it is perfection it is bliss. I am all alone as Infinite Consciousness .I achieved full self acceptance on this. But now I have to work on my dream only I can do it. Yeah lets give "them" a purpose since my mind projects reality. I am unmovable unchanging Absolute. Absolute Zero haha

There are no "problems" in life, just situations! If You freak out and act compulsively, reacting per say, then Your intelligence to get thru the Situation is reduced, but if Your bliss or peace is not affected, your clarity is still there, Your Blissful no matter what, then Your intelligence is always there, that is the teaching, it makes sense!

Heres how it went for me the order is a little fuzzy This is kind of how it goes but in no specific orders: No Self realization (Enlightenment- ego death) The mystical wind - (spirit) Bliss - Divinity- amazing- miraculous- godlike - mystical Infinity - (The God Wind - Absolure Infinity - reeling on the ground for momma. You are Infinity and Infinity is reality. As a result of Infinity - its Consciousness - Consciousness continues to expand encompassing all. Its a dream. Everything is ideas not material reality. Mind blowing Nothingness. You are Absolutely Nothing ..as a result of Infinity (Devastating a feeling of complete emptiness) Complete Omniscience - grasping it all. Wonderful. You grasp it all in one go. God realization - You are God and are dreaming the whole thing. All of it is yours. Satisfying. Complete Oneness Solpsism) self and other duality collapses - it really hits you now. Yeah you were God. But you're fucking God. Like that's it. There's nothing outside of you.. Beautiful but terrifying. Ego returns. Somehow keep your sanity.

Imagine you could dream any dream you wanted, every night - you could dream 75 years of time in one night. Every night you could have any kind of pleasure, adventure, or experience you desired. At first, you’d live out your wildest fantasies. Love, power, beauty, triumph, bliss! But eventually, you’d get bored of predictable pleasure. So you’d start adding uncertainty, risk, and surprise. “Tonight, let’s dream something less predictable… maybe something that feels real.” And after many such dreams, you’d eventually dream the kind of life you’re living right now. Complete with its ups, downs, heartbreaks, uncertainties, and miracles. “You would be living exactly as you are now — because that’s what you would dream." - Alan Watts

It depends. Both possibilities exist. If you go into the formlessness very deeply eventually you will reach a point of complete annihilation where there is not even bliss, love, orgasm, or anything -- just a total blank. It is such a high degree of Unity that you can't even call it Unity. It is so united that it has no distinct qualities. It is Unity but you cannot call or think it "Unity". It is Love but it is a Love too deep to even be called "Love". Just to think of reality as "Love" or "Unity" already requires a degree of separation and form. If you have complete formlessness you cannot even regard it as "formless", because "formless" is a form. However, you can also be conscious of formlessness while being in a state of form. You can think formlessness. You can comprehend it as Love. So there are multiple ways here. The common mistake is to try to reduce it to just one way. That's the error of the Buddhists.

In formless, post-physical-death unity with God, there is of course still endless love and bliss and all of that, like existing in an endless orgasm, right? It’s not like going to sleep where there is literally no experience at all?

Nobody is done. Actually, there isn't even somebody beyond the appearance of somebody. There is,was, ever will be only THAT. Cosplaying sometimes as somebody in its own Being. But that is another story. Stabilizing Awakening via resting in True Being is just a stepping stone to whatever other adventures there may be appear, beyond having a human appear in ones Being. And yet, it is the stepping stone of fundamental importance, from duality ("somebody" in here, "other" out there) chasing experiences/states/awakenings/whatever (another word is suffering in cycles) to truly starting to become able to rest in bliss even in the so called "ordinary" world (which in truth isn't ordinary at all, but holy manifestation of the Divine Ground). And from thereon, become truly able to celebrate the journey, which in truth never really happened beyond appearing to be happening. Which takes the whole stress out of the game.

To realize what Reality is and what my true being is, 15 years+ after starting with a Mahamudra and Dzogchen based practices similiar to Pointing out the Great Way. Before that, some years of Zen-like meditation, but that would not have led anywhere I guess (not efficient enough, at least not for me. Too much brute force effort required). So nowadays I am enjoying the bliss that comes along the release of the ever-grasping self-contraction/ego-illusion and effortless in True boundless nondual impersonal Being, getting rid of the remaining "character-hangovers" (Chat-GPT: "The lingering emotional or mental effects you feel after being deeply immersed in a fictional character or story.")... Ask my wife . And somtimes I wonder why some chase their own merely appearing and temporary (Alien-,x/y/z) tails in a grasping way (wanting x/y/z Awakenings or else suffering/contracting/grasping), which is exactly is the opposite of getting rid of the remaining lenses/filters by resting for really long periods of time in choiceless Awareness, which would make true Enlightenment possible. And propagate the tail-chasing as superior. Mayas illusions and cul-de-sacs, all the way of the path.... So, Godspeed by the River

I was floating, living in the peaceful bliss of my immaterial dreams, content with the world... Until you reminded me of the abuse this show put me through 😜 I WANTED to love it. It didn't love me... I'm re-watching the remake of Battlestar Galactica currently. Gimme a show like THAT (except maybe the very end when the writers strike scrambled the eggs slightly)

That which is truly aware doesn't come and go. Sometimes "it" has nothing to be aware of. I see this deep intuition in your posts, and why you value Ralstons material so much because of that. In my view, that comes deeply from your soul, and I consider it as a very precious intuition of your soul. And THAT which is aware watches all the Ant/Human/Alien/Divine Being "individuality" (aka consciousness), which is nothing else than the subjective appearing side of the nondual whole. It is still an arising in the dream... For me its perfectly clear why Reality looks for Leo the way it does (some "consciousness" higher than the other). Because he has never let go fully of all of these juicy subjective parts (aka what he calls higher consciousness, or "consciousness of" Ant/Human/Alien/Divine Being, n+1), leaving some filters/lenses and subjective distorations (aka states) still in place. Even in nondual states giving rise to beings more complex than humans (Alien)... And I totally understand why he totally doesn't understand what I am saying and why I am saying that. My challenge for Leo would be: Sit down on the pillow, meditate until suffering and boredom stops, die on the pillow, then die some more, then die until the Leo-thing is done with, and then see what is really the case when one is able to shut down the arisings of the illusionary separate-self (aka Leo) in real-time - sobre. And if that is not doable, then why? Hint: Leo not quite dead transcended and done with. Ah, the untranscended self-contraction. And once this bug is fully transcended in real time, then tell us when the bliss of the Absolute and the release of any form of self-contraction has started flowing, if the Alien is still so fascinating. Maybe then he will understand why everyone who has achieved Enlightenment (or realized ones own True Nature) values the flow of bliss and the infinite release of Duality, or resting in ones True Being as the Summum Bonum. All possible questions are answered in this. All there ever could be (including Alien) is just mere appearance in ones boundless Being, and the bliss of that Being drowns all grasping. And the end-point of this multi-life-journey is not exploring the multiverse in a grasping way to ease the contraction of the untranscended separate-self. That is done until one tires of it, which can be speeded up with insight. Then, one can still celebrate Gods Infinity of realms. But then, in a non-grasping way, a celebration, because the self-contraction that suffers/grasps/contracts is dead/gone, a mere illusion that once appeared in ones True Being. You will never have the answer going down that road, since its Infinity on Infinity on Infinity forever. God will never run out of Infinities/Aliens/Diving Beings/whatever n+1. You will drop dead before you have the full answer going down that road. But if that is the only tool you have to ease your self-contraction a bit, well, go ahead on do it until you are tired of it - this life or the next. Which, btw., is also the point of the ride: To do what you like until you get tired of that. Or maybe have some insight into the whole process and jump to the next step. Less tiring & suffering. Either way, its how Reality celebrates the appearance of your life. In that sense, let's celebrate the journey we are on to the best of our abilities, and Godspeed in/by/on/as the River PS: UnbornTao wouldn't be UnbornTao if yours truly wouldn't get a snarky comment on his blasphemy, so... and Namaste! PS PS: Leo, having read Reductionism from you quite a lot quite lately.... How about replacing that with Essentialism, and coming home? See you there! And then, from "there", the exploration of the Infinity of Infinities is a celebration, being & feeling at home wherever possibly one seemingly goes.

Well I experienced God/Infinite Love and realized everyone and everything is literally me.So how I can I live other then being a saint /sage. I awoken myself for some reason. I have clean mind,pure heart and many times experience bliss without taking the drugs.I am satisfied with small.I don't need money or sex.I am happy and I accepted myself as God. I know all of this is projection of my mind so what other thing is left is other then to Love because that is my true nature. I want good and beautiful dream.

In this forum very few people had Kundalini awakening. But that doesn't mean they don't know truth. Kundalini awakening is not everything. Understanding, consciousness development etc plays a role. Chasing bliss in spirituality will probably end up like you. It's ego who wants that. You have not transcended your ego enough so you are suffering . Because the bliss state you lost makes it even more harder for the ego. I think that's what the dark night of the soul describes. It's a common phenomenon on the path to enlightenment. You need to return to the spiritual path once again, but from the right intentions. Otherwise you will end up probably in misery again. And prepare everything for serious work. Have stable income, good diet, sport etc so that you have a strong basis you can rely on when things get heavy.

You have no idea of the truth, it is a tremendous bliss, there is humility in how blessed I am, and clarity comes before Kundalini.

Ok sorry for my suspicion and welcome to this forum. Your story is very unusual and interesting. Do you think about getting back to Kundalini awakening through meditation to experience the bliss once again? Do you want to become a spiritual teacher again? Have you reflected why your scholars left you, what was the real reason?

No, I am a real person, and you have no idea of the spiritual level I once had. I was very high on life, with what can be called, supreme bliss. I can share more if you want. Also, that's a picture of me at 5 I think, how can you think I am a bot. You can't see how real my story is?? He said I met him, because I asked God to meet a man of God, so God answered.