Xonas Pitfall

Hmm... how so? The logic is that everything is God and holds the unity and all-encompassing consciousness at the center. The only thing dividing us from full omnipotence is our level of consciousness. Once you are more closely merged, you are the center of the whole universe, because, in essence, you are God. So theoretically, if one's consciousness is raised enough, they should be able to bend reality (at least to some extent, given that you are still trying to retain your human body). But some level of higher controlled change should be possible.

@Natasha Tori Maru Exactly! It was actually quite a pleasant surprise for me too, and the dude does seem decently open-minded and non-judgmental.

Very interesting watch!

I think my issue is that I can't tell if this is just a process within my mind (or other conscious agents' minds) and not so "relevant" beyond explaining that. To give an example: A neural network starts from a random function, and it slowly starts making biases, distinctions, weighted functions, and gradient descent to map out whatever it is being fed as input. However, it's not like that neural network (although it is an "infinite mind" in a sense, since it’s diving and uniting itself in infinite ways, infinite times) is able to impact reality in any independent way beyond its definition. Sure, it's a universal pattern of how its mind works and how all of our minds work, but there is nothing to suggest this is how it works outside of the "minds" or consciousness, just like how a neural network or a computer processor can divide, analyze, and comprehend in a million infinite ways. But that doesn’t mean it’s anything near the way a human mind works. There is a significant qualitative difference in experience. But if you were a neural network, you’d never know. Sure, a computer chip can realize, "Oh, I'm just making decisions! And if I stop making binary 1s and 0s, I’ll cease to exist! Yay! :D" This means "I am God 100%", but that computer chip would have missed out on important, qualitatively different experiences from its human chip creator, outside the reality of its binary process. It’s not like if a human were to realize, "Oh, I’m just making distinctions!" they could playfully play with mental distinctions, let alone physical ones. Leo once said that if he wanted to, he could make his hand a tentacle, but he didn’t want to during the trip because he’s attached to his hand. Okay. Then, can he make some physical changes and bend and manipulate distinctions of things he’s not so attached to? He could give himself abs, perhaps even a slight eye color change, or solve gut health issues, right? Again, this feels like a very crucial element that gets ignored. We’re doing science, but proper science here. If I concluded that mind and reality are the same, then testing this very distinction is imperative. I understand the concept: "Oh, you’re in such a high state that you don’t care about giving yourself a billion dollars or proving anything to anyone!" But he clearly still is teaching; he clearly still cares about putting his words and understanding the truth in a proper manner. This feels to me like one of the primary things to test for reality vs. mind non-duality beliefs. Because if I can, in a super high state, bring into reality something that could’ve never happened normally (and that I controlled for, not something the trip blurred my mind with), that’d truly be impactful. Am I making sense? It kind of feels like you’re just defining patterns of how the mind functions, and then if you can remove some of these distinctions in the mind, experiences would change. But the fact that your internal state cannot impact the external beyond your ordinary human limitations, at least it hasn’t been recorded to do so, leaves me confused as to why there aren’t better proofs of this, as it seems like the first thing to explore if you want to spread consciousness to people. And not in a way that looks like a magician performing with sleight of hand. And if you say, “Oh, well, it’s difficult to bring upon a whole pyramid with your mind!” I’d ask, why? According to your metaphysics, God has no meaningful difference between spawning a kangaroo and building an Empire State Building; it’s all imagination for him. So that means you, as a human in God consciousness, should be able to at least spawn some water or fire intentionally in your highest state of consciousness. And you don’t have to do this because of ego, pride, or anything, but just because you want to play and explore consciousness more, for the beauty of consciousness.

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Not necessarily! If one night I drugged you, locked you up in a basement, and performed gender transformation surgery, making you "Miss Leona," you'd be forced to have a "consciousness expansion" experience due to your physicality and hormones changing. If I induced schizophrenia in you through a lobotomy and electric shocks, you would also have a shift in consciousness. When you're sad, you can point to brain activity that's "presenting" that you are in a sad state. When you're doing a complex calculus problem, there's brain activity for that as well. And there is also brain activity when your "dissociative process," aka your DMN or "ego," is being lowered, which expands your sense of self. I'm not saying the brain is the cause of consciousness, but it is a good "map" to look at if one potentially wants to cause these things outside of psychedelics. Creating substances that mimic this behavior, lowering brain activity, especially in areas associated with the "self" and "self-rumination," would be a good direction! Fundamentally, both 'real' mental barriers and 'real' physical barriers are the main culprits as to why we are not all flowing and basking in God. It's a sturdy process to deconstruct these things and become unself-deceived. That's why psychedelics help so much, as they loosen things up. This is also why I can touch my toes on psychedelics and almost do a pretzel!

@Breakingthewall How do you cope with or understand the inability to manipulate reality that much, even in the highest states of consciousness? Even the highest prophets and gurus didn’t leave historical records of being able to, let’s say, spawn an object in front of them, or even just in terms of things like growing hair, gaining or losing weight, morphing into different forms, or having a strong pigment/race change; just any type of reality manipulation that would be more evidential. This should be achievable at the highest states following the Logic, yet nothing. And by the way, I’m not asking this as an attack point. I just noticed this is one of the main blockages I have to fully embody and accept the "All is Mind" narrative. I find the logic of God fairly simple to follow and to make connections with, but when it comes to my ego accepting some of these truths, it’s more difficult, specifically because of this argument. Considering that it often leads me to believe the logic I’m plotting out is the logic of my perception and mind, not the actual source.

Here! I’ve timestamped it, but this video explains well what psychedelics do to our brains! I honestly suggest watching the full course if you're interested in this. TLDR: Basically, the way I see it is this: You know how when you're walking down the street, you can separate your own individual self from other people talking? Well, someone with schizophrenia, for example, can’t do that. They often hear voices and interpret other people's conversations passing by as if they are being watched or talked about. They're missing that "dissociative separation boundary of ego" that most people have, which is necessary to function properly in the real world. During psychedelic trips, or people with telepathy, clairvoyance, schizophrenia, DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder), or even savant syndrome, cannot form a consistent sense of "self" or "ego." As a result, a lot of other things "leak" into their consciousness, which causes their perception of reality and sense of self to differ drastically from what we consider "normal." This is why they tend to be more dysfunctional on average, but can also display unique abilities or gifts. Psychedelics directly target the DMN (default mode network). The Default Mode Network (DMN) is thought to be closely linked to the ego or sense of self. For example, it is strangely overactive in depressive patients. These patients struggle with an overactive sense of self and repetitive thoughts, which is why psychedelics can help treat depression; they break them out of their mental loop. Similarly, sociopathic or narcissistic individuals might experience guilt or empathy when they use psychedelics, because it loosens their rigid sense of "self." So, psychedelics are essentially substances that lower DMN activity or reduce brain activity overall, particularly the ego. If we could create a drug or medicine that does the same thing, we'd likely see similar effects. Of course, this is all still under heavy research and uncertain, but the ongoing evidence suggests this is the direction we're heading.

Close, he went with the baboons! 🐒🍌

Well... I'm not sure history would agree with you here, to be honest, haha. I honestly can’t think of more destructive cults, ideologies, and reactions than those on the masculine side, especially when there's a leader who whispers exactly what people need to hear. What do you think the whole incel/4chan/redpill/pick-up movements, with school shooters and misogyny, are about? It's guys with repressed feelings and needs who get pulled into groupthink with their issues and soothing their emotions by forums telling them they’re justified in feeling what they do. Those are the huge number of guys who aren't seeking any real truth. Instead, they endlessly and mindlessly repeat debating points in their heads, justifying whatever emotions they want to feel; soothing themselves in their own delusions to feel good. If the masculine is so prone to truth more than the feminine, how do we explain this huge discrepancy? People often say how women are always targets for cults and sexual exploitation, but are we forgetting that men are the ones building the infrastructure for those cults? Why are we ignoring all these men living in delusion, thinking they can exploit whoever they want? This is a perfect example of living in complete delusion, thinking you're untouchable and beyond morals. And you're telling your ego, along with other men, that you can do this because it makes your ego and emotions feeeeeeeeeeeeel good. If these aren’t proof of guys being highly social, prone to groupthink, and emotionally driven (especially given that there is no feminine alternative to this kind of phenomenon, as far as I'm aware), I don’t know what is, haha.

I love these questions! Obviously, I am not saying I 100% know or there is a definite answer, but it can be fun to speculate! 1. Opposable Thumbs and Dexterity Unlike most animals, our thumbs can touch the tips of our fingers, giving us the ability to grip, manipulate, and shape objects precisely. Imagine a caveman or early human experimenting with rocks, sticks, or bones, and discovering how to hold and craft them into more sophisticated shapes. Humans could begin to create tools that were more complex and adaptable, from simple cutting tools to weapons. This trait likely drove evolutionary pressure to maximize the use of our hands, as they became our primary tool for survival and innovation. Also, when humans started walking upright, it freed the hands for tasks other than locomotion. With free hands, early humans could use tools, carry objects, and build shelter. This change was a distinct break from our ancestors, as being bipedal allowed for more complex and multi-purpose hand usage, not just walking or gripping. 2. Cognitive Push for Survival: Humans didn't have the physical power or speed of many predators. Unlike big cats, bears, or large primates, early humans were relatively small and physically weaker. But the lack of physical strength likely pushed humans to develop tactical thinking and strategies. Since we couldn’t outfight predators or rivals, we had to think and use tools to make up for it. This created a strong evolutionary push for higher cognitive function, such as developing advanced tool-making, hunting strategies, and social cooperation. Cognitive evolution became central to our survival and success. Different species have adapted to their specific ecological niches. For example, dolphins also have large brains, but their environment and survival strategies don't require them to build tools or create complex social structures in the same way humans do. Larger brains are heavy and require a lot of energy, which means other traits might be sacrificed to allocate resources to brain development. In a predator like a lion, strength and speed were more important than cognitive complexity, so evolution didn’t favor larger brains. In contrast, humans faced survival challenges that pushed them toward brain development rather than just physical traits. Elephants live in complex social groups and have a long lifespan, meaning they need advanced memory for navigating vast territories, remembering waterholes, and maintaining social bonds within their herds. Their intelligence is also crucial for empathy and problem-solving within social groups. Their large brains are vital for social interaction and memory, but they also come with high energy costs. Unlike big cats or prey animals, elephants invest heavily in social cohesion and environmental memory rather than in physical speed or strength. 3. Social Cooperation: Humans are incredibly social animals, and some researchers argue that we might be one of the most social species on Earth. Cooperation and social bonds were essential for survival: sharing resources, protecting each other, and coordinating in hunting groups. But cooperation also required advanced cognitive skills like empathy, understanding others' thoughts and feelings, and communication. The need to cooperate in increasingly larger and more complex groups led to the development of language and more intricate social dynamics, which in turn required more sophisticated thinking. Basically, every species has its trade-offs and benefits. Humans aren't as large as elephants to afford to not be quick or reactive, nor are we built for extreme speed like cheetahs, so we can't afford to completely ignore social cooperation, tool-creation, or higher cognitive development. While this isn’t a fully clear-cut answer (since it’s all quite convoluted), the summary would be: we had certain natural predispositions, like hand dexterity and eventually bipedalism, which freed up our hands for manipulation. Once a species develops a unique ability (like dexterous hands), evolution often exploits that advantage because survival thrives on these specialized traits. Over time, these traits become more refined and specialized, leading to the development of other functions (in our case, the brain) that could have developed to support it. Instead of making the brain smaller, if we were, let's say, more specialized for vision like eagles.

That's a significant assumption. Our ancestors, like Australopithecus, Homo habilis, and Homo erectus, lacked the advanced brain and cognitive abilities that define Homo sapiens. Their brains were smaller, which limited their ability to think abstractly, plan, or form complex social structures. Unlike animals that are better predators, faster, stronger, or more agile, our survival advantage came from our ability to think, create tools, and collaborate in large groups. Over time, those without these cognitive traits were outcompeted or wiped out, leaving Homo sapiens as the dominant species due to our brain's adaptability and flexibility. The approach you're suggesting was attempted in nature, and if anything, it was necessary for further development. These species were wiped out because they couldn’t survive, while we, Homo sapiens, remained due to our adaptability and cognitive abilities. You see, we don't have many inherent genetic or physical advantages: Humans have an unusually large brain relative to body size, particularly in the neocortex, the part of the brain responsible for higher functions like reasoning. Highly developed hands, specifically opposable thumbs, which allowed for intricate tool-making and manipulation. Humans are also incredibly social animals, and our survival often depended on cooperation and communication within groups. These are a few advantages we have, and all of them, to some extent, support the development of more complex structures of thinking and conceptualizing. If we were created to be exceptionally large, fast, or flexible, nature would likely have doubled down on those traits more. However, since most of our advantages lie in our brain structure, our ability to manipulate reality with flexible hands, and our social group dynamics, it made more sense for nature to emphasize these traits. Nature is very efficient at times.

@Jannes I think this is more of a practical issue. Obviously, you're going to need to do everything since well... you want to do everything, haha. There's no way around it, you won’t have enough information before trying. So, first, focus on getting your survival situation in order: secure your basic human needs and make sure your income is stable, so you're not stressed. Once that’s in place, you can figure out how much free time you can allocate for spiritual pursuits and psychedelics. Plan it out in advance: what kind of psychedelics? How many grams? LSD, mushrooms, 5-MeO-DMT, DMT, etc. If you prefer a retreat, I don’t have much info on that, but you can look it up. From there, start feeling it out and see how your body and mind respond. You’re going in without knowing exactly what will happen; you might get insights immediately, or you might find that your ego is much more stubborn than you expected. Based on your experiences, you’ll start to see what comes up, whether you need to work on things like dating, making more money, or traveling. Or maybe you’ll be able to let those desires go. For something like life purpose (LP) specifically, you won’t suddenly realize it during a trip if you’ve never had any external experience or input in that area. If you’ve never heard of a particular line of work, it won’t just appear to you during a psychedelic experience. Research and experience are key if you want to find your LP. If you don’t have any lingering desires, you can just continue with your spiritual pursuits. Over time, you’ll likely experience God realization. After that, you'll either be very clear on your life purpose (LP) and happy with it, or you might find that you no longer care much about it. In that case, your focus on survival and basic needs will help maintain whatever lifestyle you’ve found in the process. Basically, you don't have all the info yet, so there's not much you can do. Psychedelics (God-realization) won’t suddenly give you an insight into your life purpose (LP) without any prior input. To recontextualize something, you need to have something to recontextualize in the first place. For example, if someone was born to be a hockey player but never heard of it, a trip won’t make them think, “Oh, I should play hockey! What's that?” What’s more likely is that the desire was already there, maybe from childhood or while watching sports, or even while training in a different sport. They likely have a strong subconscious memory of it. Then, during the trip, it suddenly clicks for them. Also, be careful of psychedelic delusions. You might suddenly think, “I want to be a billionaire to save the world! I wanna start a healthy whole foods business!” But if you have zero experience with what that actually entails, it can mess with you. Psychedelics can help with LP discovery, but they work best when you’ve already had experience or exposure to potential LPs. Without that, it can easily become delusional. A better approach might be to start working on an LP you think you'd like, and then use psychedelics to help you gain emotional attunement and clarity. Let them help you assess and keep you in check whether what you’re doing is truly enjoyable and aligned with who you are. It’s really important to avoid black-and-white thinking, like believing there's only one true LP for you or that you must follow the most optimal path. In reality, the best you can do is minmax: gather as much experience and information as quickly as possible so you can make better decisions. It’s all about flexibility and adaptation. Survival is crucial and cannot be ignored even at the highest levels.