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This sounds good in theory, but it only works if both sides are mature and open to real discussion. Do you honestly think that’s true of Trump, Vance or any of the major Republicans in right-wing US politics right now? Just look at how Trump and Vance have handled this shooting, they deny basic facts and are essentially taking the approach of 'lie hard and lie fast to control the narrative'. You can’t have a healthy, productive conversation with people who put political goals ahead of truth like that. The right is much more willing to play dirty, while the left usually hold themselves to a higher standard, they often take the high road and want to “have the discussion,” but what we are seeing now is that this approach just doesn’t work with people who are too stupid, too ignorant or too malicious to actually have a discussion about the best course of action.

You know you've fucked up when you manage to look like the bad guy while talking to Clavicular. When his wife starts touching the other guy him and laughing with him... if there were ever an appropriate moment for a gen Z 💀 emoji it would be that. I almost feel sorry for him, then I remember some of the stuff I've seen him say and do before.

How is the USA better than the EU? Across almost every development or quality of life metric the USA typically ranks around 15th and almost all of the countries above it are European. I will agree that SEA is one of my favourite places in the world, but only if you’re backed by a western income.

I get you, to an extent. But I also understand why people are irritated by your response. It was out of place on a political thread where somebody has been killed. High level spiritual truisms don't really add anything to the conversation, because the conversation here is about a very emotionally charged concrete physical event that occurred. It is roughly equivalent to going to a Africa to find a starving child and telling them "don't worry, you're actually an infinite being that is imagining it is finite, and so there is nothing objectively wrong with you starving" – yes, it's true on a universal scale but it is so far above what the person you are talking to is concerned with that you end up coming across as an asshole. You've gotta meet people where they're at, or just don't bother commenting at all.

She’s turning away to leave because the other agent is trying to open her car door. Look at the synced up footage from @zurew above. If she was actively trying to run him over she did a terrible job of it because she reverses first in order to get a better angle to drive away without hitting the agent. The video you linked is also cropped weirdly. Again, the video from @zurew’s Reddit link shows the uncropped version. Seriously, just watch that full video and tell me you still think she was trying to intentionally run him over. Also pay attention to what’s labelled “Shot 3” at the end of the video. The ICE agent is literally running after the car to shoot her point blank in the face. Trump’s response (also linked there) is clearly a massive exaggeration too

I addressed pretty much everything you said here in my last post, I can tell you didn't even bother to read it. But I'll reiterate in TLDRish bullet points to make it easier to follow. If it is slippery and icy why is the ICE agent standing in front of her car in the first place? By your own logic that was even more stupid There was no reason for them to even be near her car in the first place, let alone standing in front of it while it was icy, or trying to pull open her door Law enforcement are expected to be calm, collected and professional even in dangerous situations. They're expected to have basic control over fight or flight. A regular civilian should not have these expectations placed upon them to the same degree, they deserve the benefit of the doubt. She likely did not try to crush his leg on purpose, she probably didn't even notice he was there because she was preoccupied by the other agent to her left trying to pull her driver side door open Even if she tried to drive over him on purpose, and that's a big if, the training guidelines for law enforcement in a situation like that are very clear; if someone is using a vehicle as a weapon DO NOT SHOOT THEM, because you often just make the situation worse. The correct response for a trained officer is to GTFO of the way and use other vehicles/blockades to stop the rogue driver Even with icy road thrown into the mix, which personally I think is the definition of grasping at straws, there is no interpretation of this in which the civilian is more in the wrong than the ICE agents.

Two points I wanna make here. Firstly, the official training for police officers when somebody tries to use their car as a weapon against you is to GTFO of the way. Shooting the driver is considered the worst option because, as you can see from this case, it only makes the situation worse because the car is now accelerating but in a completely uncontrolled manner. The only time it's considered the correct move to shoot the driver of a car is when the driver is shooting a gun from the car themselves. Secondly, in a situation like this, you have to give the benefit of the doubt to the untrained civilian panicking and doing something slightly stupid, not to the (supposedly) trained law enforcement agent. They are expected to handle situations like this professionally. Yes, she probably should have stopped and got out of her car. But when you've got what essentially looks like two 3rd world paramilitary operatives with guns trying to get into your car because you accidentally drove down the wrong street, your body will go into fight or flight mode. Because of this you'll do stupid stuff. "Get out of the car" being yelled at you could easily be misheard as "Get out of the way" plus all of your instincts are telling you to GTFO out of there as well. She was probably looking at the dude to the left trying to open her door and not at the guy to the right in the front of her car, she may not even have seen him when she was trying to drive off. Fight or flight gives you tunnel vision. The core issue here is that ICE agents are untrained. Any competent law enforcement officer would have handled this far better. This is a case of an untrained officer escalating a situation with a panicking civilian. There is no reasonable interpretation where the woman is primarily at fault, and certainly none where an instant death sentence was justified.

I think you are projecting to some degree here. Most of the men I've met who enjoy a lot of casual sex don't really care that much if the woman did too. The issues arise where one partner was significantly more promiscuous than the other in the past.

Pretty good. After a year of travelling in 2024 I have a seriously solid dating profile put together and if I really put in effort I can get 2-3 dates per week from Hinge/Tinder. I’ve got a really solid group of friends where I live now and I honestly think a lot of them will be lifelong mates. We go out most weekends which gives me loads of in-person chances to meet people. It doesn’t even feel like 'pickup' when you’re out with close friends, it just feels like partying and having a good time. I go out to make memories with them, not with the goal of getting laid. If it happens, it happens. I find that way more fun and way healthier than going out purely trying to pull. Lonely socially anxious 20 year old me would be astonished and proud of how sociable I am now.

In the context of this discussion that is essentially a meaningless tautology

Do you mean this in a good way or a bad way?

I suspect it's because his followers actually respect the sex trafficking to a degree

Don't forget that he is a massive smoker too Another classic Tate video below. "Quitting smoking was so easy that I decided to start smoking again after two weeks" – Tate https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBJbkYPy8yY/

Every time Tate comes up I share this video of the workout routine he recommends, because after you watch this there are only two possible ways left to describe Tate, he's either a complete idiot or a total grifter. The idea that a supposedly top tier athlete would ever suggest that this 30kg barbell workout is 'all you need to build muscle' is nuts. His whole demeanour in this video is also just..... insufferable. Again you can also find videos of him literally admitting to trafficking women too, which are much worse. But somehow that actually garners him respect from a lot of the people who follow him. I'm glad the dude finally got the ego check he's needed for a long time. I suspect his reputation will suffer a lot from this because his image is entirely built upon him being this untouchable 'top G'

Saying the feminine submits to the masculine is wrong. The feminine wants containment and protection, not slavery and submission.