We are one. Not the same.

[Rahra]

We are all the same in God’s Eyes, our Creator.

Loved. Understood and Known Totally.

God is The Father.

God, there is Absolutely no god but He.

In Him Alone I believe, and in Him Alone I trust.

 

[gettoefl]

i am 2 aspects mind and no mind

mind is fear

no mind is love

mind is different for every person, no mind is same for every person

transmute mind to no mind then we are same

irrespective of that i see you as the same as me since mind is just dust covering your eyes

that is why i love you

my mind doesn't love you, that is impossible ... it is my no mind true nature that recognises your true nature too

you are the whole universe just like i am, you are not just it, you created it just like i did, you see it different to me since you see with mind

[A_v_E]

@ivankiss quite the contrary ivan, we are litteraly yelling to you what we think is true & honest.

 

we would be full of shit if it was trying to deceive you, but in fact we trying to undeceive you

[ivankiss]

@A_v_E How gracious of you 

So you're telling me that you cannot tell the difference between your face and your neighbor's ass?

Is that what enlightenment is? Is that how conscious af you all are? 

C'mon.

[A_v_E]

@ivankiss it happen sometimes, but I've no attachment to discerning, discerning just happen as a result of beingness.

I understand that my discerning is relative to what my prior conditionning is up to.

does a 3 baby years old discern arrogance vs courage ?.

no he didn't have the time to make up a story about it.

but it's not only about courage & arrogance, everything can be seen through this dynamic of being just a self learned psychosis.

it doesn't mean what you see is not "reality" on the contrary you directly see reality, but you're making up object in your head "thought" like bottle about a thing that isn't a bottle, but just "nothing".

the objects you see all around you are maybe there, but you cannot speak of them and being serious about the beliefs in your heads.
it's not because we can share collective shizo babble sounds than it makes our babbling more "real".
 

Edited February 10, 2023 by A_v_E

[ivankiss]

@A_v_E Perceiving differences and making distinctions is not in the way of your precious enlightenment. Of course perception can be dissolved and then distinction is impossible to be made. But that's not where you sneaky little bastards are, right this moment. If you were there, you could not blink, think or talk, let alone type nonsense on this forum.

That's my main issue with what you all are blabbering. It's not that I'm denying your point altogether. I'm simply saying you are pointing towards nothing, some 'experience' that you had once or twice on psychedelics or whatever else. You are not there right this moment. And since right this moment is all there ever is, what you're essentially doing is living a lie, even though you are pointing towards 'the highest truth'. 

You know... the whole 'there is a difference between speaking of truth and living it' thing.

A difference between knowing the path and walking it.

Walk your talk.

Know where you are. Stand in that Truth. It might not be 'the highest truth' but it's still true, right now. 

Truth is not an idea. No matter how fancy and shiny. You have to develop a sense for truth and do your best to stay aligned with it. Constantly correcting yourself and re-aligning. It's an ongoing thing. Always now. And it can look like anything. Very delicate. 

I don't surf, but I imagine it's pretty much like that.

[A_v_E]

@ivankiss but we don't exist ivan, you made us so for you to be entertained about this game of people not making distinctions.

[ivankiss]

@A_v_E Ivan did not create shit. Ivan is created, as all you are; here to labour and to wail with the damned.

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, ivankiss said:

 

God can clone himself infinitely. It is true that everything is imaginary, but what is imagined is infinite, nothing is finite. an atom is total infinity. reality is eternity and in eternity everything that can be has been, or is, since there is no time. imagine an eternal time in which infinite avatars follow one another. that time is now. those avatars are now. and each one of them imagines infinite avatars that imagine infinite avatars. a blink of god is the creation of infinite dimensions. this is not understandable. all that infinity collapses is you. only you are, the absolute. But me too. We are the same, exactly. but it unfolds infinitely. Any partition of infinity is total infinity.

Edited February 10, 2023 by Breakingthewall

[integral]

 

Are your actions guided by love and compassion or anger and hatred? Are you speaking for a greater cause or for personal gain? Are you serving the world or just serving your own interests? Are you truly honest with your intentions and with the people around you? Are the words and the message you are conveying considerate and kind? Are your thoughts and opinions rooted in fact or just mere speculation?

[Juan]

1 hour ago, integral said:

Are your actions guided by love and compassion or anger and hatred? Are you speaking for a greater cause or for personal gain? Are you serving the world or just serving your own interests? Are you truly honest with your intentions and with the people around you? Are the words and the message you are conveying considerate and kind? Are your thoughts and opinions rooted in fact or just mere speculation?

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[ivankiss]

No, this is mostly just arrogance and frustration speaking. Nothing too loving, kind or compassionate about it. I'm aware of that. But it's what was relevant for me at that moment. Also, that doesn't mean the message is not valid;

Just because everything is one, doesn't mean everything is the same, doesn't mean there is no difference or diversity and doesn't mean you're less enlightened or conscious if you can tell an apple from a cucumber. 

[Rigel]

15 hours ago, ivankiss said:

@Arthogaan

What I'm telling you is that there is a very good reason why I'm making this distinction.

What is it?

[gettoefl]

more from hongzhi:

 

[Arthogaan]

18 hours ago, ivankiss said:

That's my main issue with what you all are blabbering. It's not that I'm denying your point altogether. I'm simply saying you are pointing towards nothing, some 'experience' that you had once or twice on psychedelics or whatever else. You are not there right this moment. And since right this moment is all there ever is, what you're essentially doing is living a lie, even though you are pointing towards 'the highest truth'. 

Well lets assume I had awakening on shrooms 2 days ago but now I am really tired and totally lost in the ego. 

Even though I am in ego I will not write "egoism is great, selflessness is bulshit, we are all separate". 

There was some deeper insight into the nature of existence to which we want to strive for and speak from. So even though I would be kinda bullshiting speaking about Oneness when lost in the ego we can also look at it positively as some kind of striving for and genuine trying to speak Truth.

Learn to see the good/wisdom in people. Everyone here is at least trying much more so than average human 

That actually would be also my feedback to @Leo Gura 

 

[Razard86]

The only question you should be asking is if you really felt this way you wouldn't waste your time on here arguing otherwise. There is no distinction if you truly awakened you would know that.

[A_v_E]

@Razard86  always hitting the nails with a masterful hit 

[ivankiss]

I said all I meant to say. All I said I meant.

@A_v_E I thought you were more woke than this.

Oh well...

At least you're still sexy.

[Kuba Powiertowski]

Intermezzo.
During the break, I would like to invite Ladies and Gentlemen for a short meditation/contemplation of The Nature of That Which Is to remain  Awakened; we don't fall asleep!
Now, briefly about the so-called God Realization.
As long as the Consciousness plays with the Form - in this case, the Being - the so-called Spiritual - Experiencing Humanity, and is strongly connected with this Form, then communicating the Realization of God through this Form is, by your admission, ridiculous. Form, by its very nature, has boundaries that define it. The source Is Infinite. The One is manifested through the Infinite Multiplicity of Forms. Each is unique and is an expression of the One. You can return to the state of being One, but first, fully consciously give up any form of your own free will. Until then, We Are The Unity Of Diversity. Period.

[Eternal Unity]

@ivankiss @Kksd74628 My friends, you two are the ones I follow the most here on the forum! Blood Brothers