Andrew Tate Arrested

[Bobby_2021]

The idea of masculinity is based on exclusivity. Every masculine guy is striving for perfection. So it's hard to find a true single masculine role model. Because one thing they did or did not do is enough to disqualify them from being a masculine leader. 

You should be able to pull off things that others won't be able to do and with brutal efficiency & pragmatism. Get shit done. 

His values should be physical strength, intellectually smart, have money, social skills and charisma with women, value excellence and speed, talk what he thinks with no fear of what others think, challenge norms of society if necessary, value Truth, freedom etc. 

Above all he must instill inspiration in the minds of men to be the most best version of themselves. 

Tate comes pretty close although his ways are morally questionable. In other words the best role model for men would be Tate minus his sociopathic traits. He should be a little more considerate to other people and stop the Bugatti cringe. He should have more to his life than cars and models. 

 

 

[Rafael Thundercat]

1 hour ago, Bobby_2021 said:

The idea of masculinity is based on exclusivity. Every masculine guy is striving for perfection. So it's hard to find a true single masculine role model. Because one thing they did or did not do is enough to disqualify them from being a masculine leader. 

You should be able to pull off things that others won't be able to do and with brutal efficiency & pragmatism. Get shit done. 

His values should be physical strength, intellectually smart, have money, social skills and charisma with women, value excellence and speed, talk what he thinks with no fear of what others think, challenge norms of society if necessary, value Truth, freedom etc. 

Above all he must instill inspiration in the minds of men to be the most best version of themselves. 

Tate comes pretty close although his ways are morally questionable. In other words the best role model for men would be Tate minus his sociopathic traits. He should be a little more considerate to other people and stop the Bugatti cringe. He should have more to his life than cars and models. 

 

 

One question I would do for myself to check if a man would be a good role model ( even knowing that this can be very subjective) is:

If I would travel for 6 months and I would need a men to take care of my Wife and Kids and manage the house for this time in a way that when I get back I can find everything well. Would I trust this in this mans hands? 

I am even taking in consideration that maybe  my wife would need to receive love, emotional and physical. And this guy should meet the requisites to give as much love as I would give myself to her. So in this way of being, first and foremost I  need to be the rolemodel of what kind of men I would chosse to give my family to be taken care. 

So, anyone in his sane mind would trust their beloved to Tate to take good care? 

 

[ChadT]

17 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Rafael Thundercat

  I just want a simple life, with a simple job really, maybe drawing stuff. So really I don't resonate with Andrew Tate or this workaholic culture among young people in the self help or entrepreneurial side. 

I totally relate to this.  Most people aren't wired to relentlessly pursue success like this.  Kudos to those who are.  The world needs people like that too.  It just ain't me.  I really like this Einstein quote...

"A calm and modest life brings more happiness than the pursuit of success combined with constant restlessness."

[Rafael Thundercat]

I like the takes on the topic in this short talk. A online Avatar, mainly one that can influence young minds have impact.

So there always resposability. Because everything one do and say creates ripple effects in the field. Influence is something people take to ligthy. 

 

[Osaid]

Tate has been sent to the hospital from jail. Details still unknown.

[Carl-Richard]

@Osaid Probably his eye condition.

[Danioover9000]

@Carl-Richard

6 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Osaid Probably his eye condition.

   He has an eye condition?

[zurew]

8 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Probably his eye condition.

or his asthma

[Danioover9000]

@Osaid

24 minutes ago, Osaid said:

Tate has been sent to the hospital from jail. Details still unknown.

    Probably a failed attempt at his life. And dude, why are you posting stuff from KEEMSTAR?

[Carl-Richard]

2 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Carl-Richard

   He has an eye condition?

 

[Osaid]

28 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

And dude, why are you posting stuff from KEEMSTAR?

Because KEEMSTAR is one of the most credible news sources.

If you don't trust KEEMSTAR for whatever reason, you could always look into it yourself and find many other sources saying the same thing.

Edited January 9 by Osaid

[Danioover9000]

@Osaid

32 minutes ago, Osaid said:

Because KEEMSTAR is one of the most credible news sources.

If you don't trust KEEMSTAR for whatever reason, you could always look into it yourself and find many other sources saying the same thing.

   Most credible news sources, amongst most influencers in his field? Without CNN reviewing his sources or how he writes his articles? All because of an opportune moment to say that is the most trending and fad situation in the news cycle: Andrew Tate's arrest?

   Are we even talking about the same person here?

   Because lying and gossiping around a domestic terrorist event, being with a person that became a mass shooter event in New Zealand, makes him less credible if not untrustworthy as a news source. However, if he's your cup of tea, fine. I don't like him and how he even abuses doxxing for drama gains, so to me he's shady.

[Danioover9000]

@Osaid  A clip without the narration:

   Enough said for me.

[Osaid]

17 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

Most credible news sources, amongst most influencers in his field? Without CNN reviewing his sources or how he writes his articles? All because of an opportune moment to say that is the most trending and fad situation in the news cycle: Andrew Tate's arrest?

   Are we even talking about the same person here?

   Because lying and gossiping around a domestic terrorist event, being with a person that became a mass shooter event in New Zealand, makes him less credible if not untrustworthy as a news source. However, if he's your cup of tea, fine. I don't like him and how he even abuses doxxing for drama gains, so to me he's shady.

Sorry, I was just being sarcastic about Keemstar being credible. I actually predicted someone might critique that part of my post.

Anyways, my point is that in this case Keemstar is reporting things correctly, so it doesn't really matter that it is Keemstar reporting it. I just wanted a third party source in the post. And, if you don't trust Keem, you can easily look into it further and find many other sources saying the same thing. So, I don't think it is that important.

 

Edited January 9 by Osaid

[Danioover9000]

@Osaid

16 minutes ago, Osaid said:

Sorry, I was just being sarcastic about Keemstar being credible. I actually predicted someone might critique that part of my post.

Anyways, my point is that in this case Keemstar is reporting things correctly, so it doesn't really matter that it is Keemstar reporting it. I just wanted a third party source in the post. And, if you don't trust Keem, you can easily look into it further and find many other sources saying the same thing. So, I don't think it is that important.

 

   Oh, right, in that case I agree in this specific instance Keem reported correctly. Ideally any other third party, but other than that sorry if I went too hard.

[Osaid]

Just now, Danioover9000 said:

Ideally any other third party

I considered it but was too lazy to rummage around for another tweet

[Bobby_2021]

7 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

One question I would do for myself to check if a man would be a good role model ( even knowing that this can be very subjective) is:

If I would travel for 6 months and I would need a men to take care of my Wife and Kids and manage the house for this time in a way that when I get back I can find everything well. Would I trust this in this mans hands? 

I am even taking in consideration that maybe  my wife would need to receive love, emotional and physical. And this guy should meet the requisites to give as much love as I would give myself to her. So in this way of being, first and foremost I  need to be the rolemodel of what kind of men I would chosse to give my family to be taken care. 

So, anyone in his sane mind would trust their beloved to Tate to take good care? 

 

A man desperate for pussy would exploit the opportunity to get a little pussy. You should worry about such men. Tate do not need to exploit my wife to get it. It's meaningless. He could get countless women to fet laid anyway. And losing my trust and friendship is going to cost him more. A simple cost benifit analysis is enough to reason this out. 

I will trust Tate in this situation 100%.

With that said, what Tate did with his webcam business is not admirable. But can you really say it's all that bad when those women working with him, stripping on camera, made millions of dollars. He says that everything was consensual.

[Bobby_2021]

Joe rogan & Arnold did steroids. 

A man shouldn't be focusing on pumping up his aesthetics with potentially harmful hormones. He should focus only on getting things done. Obsessing on aesthetics are for women. Doing steroids isn't something young men must aspire to. It can severely damage your health. 

Is David Goggins even capable of combat? I don't know. Goggins just runs like a madman. Not so impressive. 

Jordan Peterson has a mental breakdown every other week.

Mike Tyson is good model, but he doesn't have speaking skills and he did many crimes. Also low IQ, possibly. 

Tate did sex trafficking and hurt women, allegedly. [ Investigation is going on]. None of the things Tate said online isn't going to discredit him from his masculinity, except for maybe 5% of the things where he went overboard. That's forgivable, given that he can change the way he speaks.

None of the male role models value excellence, competency and sheer brute power. That's what many men crave for deep inside. They want to utilise their potential to the fullest.  If a man comes along and says that you have to be the absolute best and crush everyone else in everything you do, and he also walks the talk to some degree, of course men are going to be inspired by it. 

You also have to value freedom and protect the freedom of choice and resist government tyranny. When a government forces a half tested vaccine on your body, then people should have the autonomy to reject it. A masculine male role model will never force things down your throat. Tate spoke out against this while many "masculine role models"  blindly urged you to get vaxxed. It's not about the effectiveness of vaccines( which itself is debatable) but simply freedom of choice. You cannot be anywhere close to masculine without valuing freedom and autonomy. 

The fact that it's hard to find a male role model is a feature rather that a bug. No man is deserving of that position absolutely forever. It's too valuable of an authority and Power to be able to inspire military age men. You essentially control civilization by inspiring young men. 

Edited January 9 by Bobby_2021

[Leo Gura]

56 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

A man desperate for pussy would exploit the opportunity to get a little pussy. You should worry about such men. Tate do not need to exploit my wife to get it.

Lol

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And losing my trust and friendship is going to cost him more. A simple cost benifit analysis is enough to reason this out. 

Ahahahaha

You actually think Tate would care about your friendship?

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I will trust Tate in this situation 100%.

Lol

Edited January 9 by Leo Gura

[zurew]

3 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

many "masculine role models"  blindly urged you to get vaxxed.

Tate is the opposite of that, you can predict all his takes just by putting anti before the word mainstream. He acts like he thinks, but he doesn't, he just rejects blindly everything that is mainstream.

3 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

A man shouldn't be focusing on pumping up his aesthetics with potentially harmful hormones. He should focus only on getting things done. Obsessing on aesthetics are for women. Doing steroids isn't something young men must aspire to. It can severely damage your health. 

Thats a quick way to find something to dismiss all the values arnold had/has. I don' t think Arnold nor Joe are pushing the message that everyone should use steroids, also Joe doesn't even use steroids - he uses TRT which is not the same. 

I could say the same logic about Tate, that people shouldn't fight at a professional level , because you don't need to, and you will fuck your brain and body up, so just because of that he is not a good role model.

3 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

Is David Goggins even capable of combat? I don't know. Goggins just runs like a madman. Not so impressive. 

A 21st century role model have to be a professional or good physical fighter for you? Its interesting that your definition of a male role model nowadays have to contain that skill, when its less and less necessary and often just a proxy for other things that you can get without being an impressive fighter.

3 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

But can you really say it's all that bad when those women working with him, stripping on camera, made millions of dollars.

Are you a "the end justify the means" kind of guy? Because I can challenge that kind of logic and "moral" framework with a lot of examples.Also Its almost like you are saying that the girls couldn't have made their money doing cam work on their own. Also the notion that those girls made so much money and all of the working was willingly and not coerced and not forced is very debatable (lets see first the end of the invesigation of his case and lets talk about these things after that).

3 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

He says that everything was consensual.

Of course he does like to think that 70+ women were constantly in love with him, but the reports doesn't align with his narcissistic thinking at all.

 

Edited January 9 by zurew