Nahm Demoted

[Happy Lizard]

@Tim R I don’t want to be “shitting on Nahm” or anything, I truly don’t and I want to respect mods and the rules of this forum.

but from reading all the bad experiences people have had with him, I’m starting to think nahm was self promoting and possibly trolling/scamming : has anyone brought up that on his personal website/couching site, most of his material are straight rip-off of headspace app material? Literally down to every word not even some effort put to modify on it. I thought that was strange and gave me a read flag and a weird vibe, but i brushed it off thinking he must be new at making his own material and probably just took some out from headspace to start to make it easy and launch his website.

 

I urge you guys to check this, you won’t be able to check because you have to have a subscription with headspace to have access to the meditations/written material. I do, and I assure you it’s a complete copy.

I wanted to speak to nahm directly about this as I had spoken to him via zoom, but thought I shouldn’t put myself through this kind of drama, since he is a mod and I’m sure he comes through the scam filter. 

But this is just wrong and someone had to bring this up. 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Happy Lizard

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Nadosa said:

Even Leo says: 

"The only one who can awaken is you.

Forget about Sadhguru, he's just a dream. Forget about me too while you're at it."

 

Of course, foundation, in any way, suggested.

I think you are conflating giving your authority away with soaking up knowledge.  Knowledge is second order - but you..yes you..should soak it up..if you have no idea what the self reference problem is you have no.chance of awakening.   It's no surprise that squirrels are.not enlightened.

[At awe]

I saw his responses as a friendly slap in the face. It was like” come to this moment, wake up” Slap…?Refreshing 

[Nadosa]

 

2 minutes ago, Personal Shaman said:

Nahm's single video points "you" better towards You than a whole collection of Leo's work.

You're letting here go of a diamond in exchange for a coal that's not even burning.

Leo's work's not going to get you anywhere. It's just conceptualising Itness. What he refers to as mental masturbation.

His whole teaching boils down to putting 5meo in your butt, and it's probably safe to assume that's what the upcoming "course" will be about. Not to take anything away from 5meo. 

If you look at the direction this place is going, you'll notice that demoting Nahm has nothing to do with Nahm.

Yet it's Leo's forum and he can well do whatever he wants. 

Imagine a "guru" kicking out one of his companion, then trying to teach you Love.

Yikes.

 

So much projection considering what "Nahm" is and his "postings" "apparently are about him" on here, anyones projecting the story of "Nahm" onto what he is, it has nothing, nothing to do with anything he points to. 

[Raptorsin7]

2 minutes ago, Happy Lizard said:

@Tim R I don’t want to be “shitting on nham” or anything, I truly don’t and I want to respect mods and the rules of this forum.

but from reading all the bad experiences that people have had, I’m starting to think nahm was self promoting and possibly trolling, has anyone brought up that on his personal website/couching site, most of his material are straight rip-off of headspace app material? Literally down to every word not even some effort put to modify on it. I thought that was stange and gave me a read flag and a weird vibe, but i brushed it off thinking he must be new at making his own material and probably just took some out form headspace to start to make it easy and launch his website.

 

I urge you guys to check this, you won’t be able to check because you have to a subscription with headspace to have access to the meditations/written material. I do, and I assure you it’s a complete copy.

I wanted to speak to nham directly about this as I had spoken to him via zoom, but thought I shouldn’t put myself through this kind of drama, since he is a mod and I’m sure he’s is comes through the scam free filter. 

But this is just wrong and someone had to bring this up. 

I didn't know about that, but I'm assuming the other half is ripped from Abraham Hicks

[Yoremo]

1 minute ago, At awe said:

I saw his responses as a friendly slap in the face. It was like” come to this moment, wake up” Slap…?Refreshing 

same. I´m grateful for what he has done for me. I don´t know how to explain it in words, but I feel a greater sense of direction after talking to him.

[Inliytened1]

@Happy Lizard self promoting was not a probkem  Everyone has to make a living.  That's a separate issue and not why Leo made the decision 

[Tim R]

5 minutes ago, Happy Lizard said:

@Tim R I don’t want to be “shitting on Nahm” or anything, I truly don’t and I want to respect mods and the rules of this forum.

but from reading all the bad experiences people have had with him, I’m starting to think nahm was self promoting and possibly trolling/scamming : has anyone brought up that on his personal website/couching site, most of his material are straight rip-off of headspace app material? Literally down to every word not even some effort put to modify on it. I thought that was strange and gave me a read flag and a weird vibe, but i brushed it off thinking he must be new at making his own material and probably just took some out from headspace to start to make it easy and launch his website.

 

I urge you guys to check this, you won’t be able to check because you have to have a subscription with headspace to have access to the meditations/written material. I do, and I assure you it’s a complete copy.

I wanted to speak to nahm directly about this as I had spoken to him via zoom, but thought I shouldn’t put myself through this kind of drama, since he is a mod and I’m sure he comes through the scam filter. 

But this is just wrong and someone had to bring this up. 

@Happy Lizard I didn't know about that.

[How to be wise]

I fully agree with Leo’s decision. Nahm has to go. 

[Alex_R]

What is the meaning of neo-Advaita ?? what is the different between that and traditional non-dual teachings????? i'm very newbie on this.

[Happy Lizard]

@Inliytened1 I thought that was against the forum guidelines? Oh well, don’t have a problem with that regardless, just thought I read it somewhere.

what my post highlights is the possibility that nahm was scamming us/some mebmers here. What kind of a spiritual teacher copies other people’s work with no permission?
 

Anyways I leave the discussion at this respectfully.

[Tim R]

I'll say it again; stop commenting like your talking about him behind his back. You're being rude and disrespectful. 

"He has to go" or "he's probably ripped off material from Abraham Hicks" or "he is clueless" are not valid or constructive criticisms. 

[peanutspathtotruth]

1 minute ago, Tim R said:

I'll say it again; stop commenting like your talking about him behind his back. You're being rude and disrespectful. 

"He has to go" or "he's probably ripped off material from Abraham Hicks" or "he is clueless" are not valid or constructive criticisms. 

You are right, and thanks for calling this out. It's interesting what kind of dynamic such a situation can unleash and what it reveals about us.

[Raptorsin7]

3 minutes ago, Tim R said:

I'll say it again; stop commenting like your talking about him behind his back. You're being rude and disrespectful. 

"He has to go" or "he's probably ripped off material from Abraham Hicks" or "he is clueless" are not valid or constructive criticisms. 

Stop making statements about what people can and can't say on here. I can literally back up everything i'm saying, I am almost certain that Nahm did rip a lot of his "teaching" directly from Abraham Hicks.

You are the not the arbiter of what is valid or constructive. You were completely clueless to what was happened right up until it happened

I have no respect for spiritual charlatans 

Edited February 21, 2022 by Raptorsin7

[Tim R]

@Alex_R

4 minutes ago, Alex_R said:

What is the meaning of neo-Advaita ??

A-dvai-ta (Sanskrit) means not-two-ness. It's basically a form of teaching nonduality where one constantly tries to point out the dualities of thought.

May I introduce you to the legendary Neo-Advaita Bears?

 

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Happy Lizard said:

@Inliytened1 I thought that was against the forum guidelines? Oh well, don’t have a problem with that regardless, just thought I read it somewhere.

what my post highlights is the possibility that nahm was scamming us/some mebmers here. What kind of a spiritual teacher copies other people’s work with no permission?
 

Anyways I leave the discussion at this respectfully.

It is against forum guidelines but he wasn't doing it in an overly, troll like manner to where it was a red flag for Leo. 

To Tim's point let's not get into the logistics of his wokeness or what he did on his site.  It's irrelevant for this discussion 

[Inliytened1]

@Tim R love you..the bears are the best.

[integral]

Create a sub forum called perspectives. 

Give each perspective a label and allow nahm to chat up his style all day. Recycle his talents. 

Wouldn't it be good for exposing people to a multi-perspectival way of thinking? If people want to learn and explore or practice a perspective they can do so in a contained part the forum.  

Perspectival exploration and training section. 

 

Edited February 21, 2022 by integral

[Tim R]

@Raptorsin7 Again: it's not that people criticise him. It's that they think they can now call him things and accuse him of being a fraud and yes, that's not what this thread is for and it's thus not constructive.

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Tim R said:

@Raptorsin7 Again: it's not that people criticise him. It's that they think they can now call him things and accuse him of being a fraud and yes, that's not what this thread is for and it's thus not constructive.

I second this - check my post above.  This is not a discussion to discuss how woke @Nahm is or what he did on his own site

 That's his business.  Let's cool it with that or the thread will be locked.