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The contrast of these two videos tells you everything you need to know.

Unconscious vs Conscious politics:

 

 


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11 minutes ago, WisdomSeeker said:

@Leo Gura Why is Joe Rogan included in here? I've heard you refer to him as stage green. I do realize he brings the likes of Jordan Peterson onto his podcasts and entertains his stupidity, but all in all, is he a funnel to the right-wing? Perhaps, I dont know Rogan's ideaological nuances enough. 

Because he irresponsibility platforms Alex Jones, traffics in conspiracy theories, and promotes false equivalencies.


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@Leo Gura so are you saying you no longer think he is stage yellow/green or are you saying you can be stage yellow/green and still have aforementioned egoic tendencies? Yes, I think hes had aspects of this prior to, but this has really come to light in the last 1 to 2 years. 

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15 minutes ago, WisdomSeeker said:

@Leo Gura so are you saying you no longer think he is stage yellow/green

No, you need to be more nuanced.

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or are you saying you can be stage yellow/green and still have aforementioned egoic tendencies?

This

Although I never said he is stage Yellow. I said his openmindedness to different POV is a stage Yellow quality that I admire.

People are complicated and full of contradictions.

Very few public figures are solid Yellow. Which is the whole problem.

And P.S., stages Green and Yellow are still fully within ego. It's a grave mistake to assume that a Yellow person is beyond ego.


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6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No, you need to be more nuanced.

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Although I never said he is stage Yellow. I said his openmindedness to different POV is a stage Yellow quality that I admire.

People are complicated and full of contradictions.

Very few public figures are solid Yellow. Which is the whole problem.

@Leo Gura Makes sense and you have mentioned before that a person can be at different stages on different things, so I will revisit spiral dynamics and integral theory to better my understanding. Thanks for always being extremely thoughtful and concise with your answers. 

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Rogan, despite his claims to be left-wing, also has a very long history of offensive commentary, especially about trans people. He’s had friendly interviews with right-wing extremists like Milo Yiannopoulos, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones — and even voiced some support for 9/11 conspiracy theories.

 

More here:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/1/24/21080234/bernie-sanders-joe-rogan-experience-endorsement-controversy


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I find Joe Rogan's take on trans people overblown. He does not hate trans people, he just doesn't want trans people competing in non-trans sports. And I agree with him on that. A person born a man should not be allowed to compete in women's sports -- for obvious reasons.


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@Leo Gura Oh Ok... really I wasn’t sure about that but I found that article on the Vox so I shared it. 
 

I will find out more about that. Maybe the Vox had that wrong. 
 


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They say he said this:

”Others argue that Rogan’s views on transgender people — in a 2013 show, he referred to a trans woman as “a fucking man,” saying, “I don’t care if you don’t have a dick anymore” — should place him beyond the pale, just as an endorsement from a prominent racist would.”

 

I will fact check that!!!


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In my opinion, most of these people are stage orange.   These conspiracy theories are hugely profitable for the conmen who create and peddle them.  It is a profitable business model.


Suffering is the origin of consciousness.  - Dostoevsky

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6 minutes ago, abrakamowse said:

They say he said this:

”Others argue that Rogan’s views on transgender people — in a 2013 show, he referred to a trans woman as “a fucking man,” saying, “I don’t care if you don’t have a dick anymore” — should place him beyond the pale, just as an endorsement from a prominent racist would.”

That was said in the context of talking about competition in sports. Rogan was correct, despite his crass language.

Equating Rogan with a racist or transphobe is silly. This is a mistake made by over-eager SJWs. Rogan is not transphobic.

If you cut off Mike Tyson's dick that does not mean you can put "her" in a boxing ring with biological women. When it comes to boxing, "she" will still be effectively a "man".


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@Leo Gura

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"she" will still be effectively a "man"

then why not call "she" "he" .. if "she" is still effectively a man

(playing devil's advocate)

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Leo Gura

then why not call "she" "he" .. if "she" is still effectively a man

(playing devil's advocate)

Because you can have empathy for another person and respect their wishes in how they identify as a person. 

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30 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is a mistake made by over-eager SJWs. Rogan is not transphobic.

Ok... I got it... 

I agree about that Mike Tyson without dick shouldn’t be fighting against women hehe... got it!!! 
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10 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Sempiternity should we respect non-human identities? (say I identify as a pencil)

What the fuck you talking about, man? You comparing transgender people to inanimate objects? 

You want to call yourself a pencil, sure go for it. 

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You comparing transgender people to inanimate object

@Sempiternity

i didn't say that

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Well, you guys are all laughing right now, but imagine the alien overlords will actually conspire through Parler and launch a terrorist tomorrow??? They will come to Russia after they are done with Merica :(:(:(. What do we do??


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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

 

If you cut off Mike Tyson's dick that does not mean you can put "her" in a boxing ring with biological women. When it comes to boxing, "she" will still be effectively a "man".

This isn’t true. Biological men that have transitioned to trans women with testosterone blockers have reduced muscle mass and strength that become comparable to women. Although some studies have shown trans women still retain higher muscle strength - especially during the first 12 months. Yet it’s not fair to assume they still have the muscle mass and strength as a man. However, bone density takes longer to equilibrate and bone structure remains different. For example trans women will have different shoulder and hip structure than cis women. In some sports this could be an unfair advantage due to the physics of leverage - such as throwing a javelin. Yet in other sports, like running, it wouldn’t have much of an advantage. Yet if the bone density hasn’t equilibrated, the trans women could withstand more intense training without certain injuries. 

 

 

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