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Can your MBTI change, really?

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People usually say it’s something that you’re born with — something innate; it isn’t subject to much change, they say. 

Hence, wanted to know how fluid or stringent it is, in your opinion. 

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It's hard to say, cause the more consciousness work you do, the more genuine you become.

So the MBTI you had in the first place might not even been your real MBTI.


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2 hours ago, Shin said:

It's hard to say, cause the more consciousness work you do, the more genuine you become.

So the MBTI you had in the first place might not even been your real MBTI.

I second that. I used to be INTP a couple years ago. Eventually as I was becoming more and more aware I realized the T was caused by environmental influence and education and was unnatural. Eventually I became INFP and I feel that I am still transitioning towards INFJ.

In fact I think that MBTI status might correspond to the level of psychological evolution you possess aka everyone at a certain threshold is a certain MBTI type somewhat similar to the spiral dynamics model. We know that thought is a very limited and limiting faculty compared to feelings so why would you choose to prioritize thought once you've become aware of the feeling universe?

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It always fluid. The change depend on people character, states, emotional problem, etc when the time he/she input. In my observation seeing my friend use it. Friend that develop inner work can have different result each use in long different time. Friend that very cocky have same result. Another friend that have emotional problem have significant change result when use in different time (INTJ - INFJ). Myself that have PTSD and wounded metaphysical boundaries so to say.. swing more often (INTJ-T, INTJ-A, INTP-A, INFP-T). My conclusion all depends on lot of conditioning. Its flexible, but the more rigid people personality tend to be the same result.

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The only thing that I never saw changing (so far) is the Introvert/Extrovert spectrum.

I never saw someone who was introverted becoming extrovert or vice versa.

That might be the only thing you can't really change, everything else you might be able to train and embody.

Or maybe you become ambivert the more you age, who knows (not me that's for sure xD ).


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NO you cannot change your type, but you can develop your weaknesses and learn to use cognitive function combinations that are not the default. Any one that thinks there flip flopping all over the place changing types from INFJ to INFP to INTP have misunderstood the model and themselves. 

You can hammer a nail with a screwdriver. That does not mean your a hammer.

 

We use our default function stack to do a wide range of things.

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I think people will have always have a clear inclination towards one type throughout their life.

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No but that is precisely why the mbti is bad for people; it makes them justify their own bs. In other words it doesn't make you look deeply enough (to realize your bad sides, your neurosis even, etc etc).

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27 minutes ago, Megan Alecia said:

No but that is precisely why the mbti is bad for people; it makes them justify their own bs. In other words it doesn't make you look deeply enough (to realize your bad sides, your neurosis even, etc etc).

Ahah so true.

I see some fellow INTJ think that "hey I'm an INTJ, I'm supposed to be cynical, assholish and have 0 friends !"

 


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Well depending on how honestly or dishonestly you answer the questions (since the tests are mostly self-administered) you might get a result that is either reflective of who you actually are, or who you want to be.

As one gets deeper into personal development work and deconstructing the ego, self-honesty usually becomes a necessarily increasing trait.

For example I went from INFJ > INFP over the past two years of heavy investment in my own development, and I was already pretty self-honest before (or at least I'd like to think so xD).

 

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1 hour ago, Shin said:

Ahah so true.

I see some fellow INTJ think that "hey I'm an INTJ, I'm supposed to be cynical, assholish and have 0 friends !"

 

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Yeah pretty much how they think trying to fit the stereotype xD


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personal development did change me from intp to infp. idk about others


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personal development did change me from intp to infp. idk about others

Maybe you always were infp, but were addicted to thinking, like almost everyone until they can be aware of being aware constantly !


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Self proclaimed Certified PhD MBTI Typologist here. 

MBTI is a very particular way of framing personality, you shouldn't be hoping or aiming to change your MBTI type for growth or self improvement. 

Second point, it's all so vague and open to interpretation that to take MBTI seriously you have to impose convoluted mental structures and mappings that in the end bear no resemblance to the structures you started off with and built upon. 


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I want to keep believing in it stubbornly; It’s just my faith. The absolute truth."

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Of course you can. Everything always changes.


"Every culture that's ever existed has operated under the illusion that it understood 95% of reality and that the other 5% would be delivered in the next 18 months, and from Egypt forward they've been running around believing they had a perfect grip on things and yet we look back at every society that preceded us with great smugness at how naive they all were. Well, it never occurs to us, then, that maybe we're whistling in the dark too!" -- Terence McKenna

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Environment changes who you are. Mentally, of what is required from you, who you hang out with, personality is a surface level thing. 

I would say MBTI is a mood thing. It describes me well at a particular moment (/timeline). 

But it is limited as in you wouldn't be one type strictly/forever. 

 

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You can guess someone's type but a brain scan. To changing your type from one to another you would have to rewire your brain completely. Brain is like an electrical circuit. As you are using certain connections between parts your brain the stronger those connections get.

To switch to another type you would have completely stop using old pathways - it's not going to happen. It's self stabilizing system. Every type is extremely different from any other type - MBTI doesn't say that but Socionics do.

Even enlightened masters have very distinct MBTI personality type. The only thing that can happened you can make your type milder by making more connection in your brain.

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It's not fluid at all.  One can develop functions but not change type, which is predicated on a certain dominant-auxiliary-tertiary-inferior function order.

A long time ago I was an INTJ with a poorly developed tertiary Fi, now I'm an INTJ with a much better developed Fi.

Has there been "change"? Significant.  Not change in type, though.

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@Ibgdrgnxxv You are confusing external behavior with internal structure. Even if your behavior changes dramatically it doesn't mean that your type became different. Types aren't about behavior but inner working.

I'm going to give an example. Someone supposedly changed type from INTP to INFP. INTP is strong at extroverted thinking, INFP is very weak at that. You would have to dumb yourself in that regard to became INFP. How you are going to do that without a surgery? At the same time you would have to quickly became very socially aware. You would have to remove some part of your brain in order to force another part to start working.

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