Gili Trawangan

If the Truth were horrible would you be pursuing it?

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I feel like I need to explain what I meant in my original post. I don't usually write much, so maybe I didn't communicate it properly. This was supposed to be an exercise in imagination. Not to be mistaken for the reality we live in. I'm not making statements about what's True and what's not.

What if there was a hidden Truth in the world? (so far it still resembles reality)

What if you could Wake Up to that Truth? (still resembling reality)

(and now let's part ways with reality) What if that Truth was something similar to the plot of the Matrix? (use your imagination now) The world is a simulation and when you Wake Up you realize that you are being kept alive for the purposes of being transformed into a battery (just like the Matrix). Unlike in the Matrix, you don't get to fight the machines and achieve peace. You Wake Up and you don't even get to leave the pod where your energy is being extracted, you just stay there forever in the agony of knowing that you are a slave forever.

Would you then pursue Truth?

That was my question. I know it's silly, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously :) but sometimes silly questions can also make us think.

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7 minutes ago, Gili Trawangan said:

You Wake Up and you don't even get to leave the pod where your energy is being extracted, you just stay there forever in the agony of knowing that you are a slave forever.

Of course not! Who would want that? I anyone answers yes, I'm putting them in the looney bin xD :ph34r:

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5 minutes ago, Knock said:

Of course not! Who would want that? I anyone answers yes, I'm putting them in the looney bin xD :ph34r:

@Knock Haha fair enough!

But in that case where does the argument for "the Truth for the Truth's sake" goes? That's what I was trying to get at :)

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1 minute ago, Gili Trawangan said:

@Knock Haha fair enough!

But in that case where does the argument for "the Truth for the Truth's sake" goes?" That's what I was trying to get at :)

That goes in the looney bin too if thats what it means xD

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1 minute ago, tedens said:

@Gili Trawangan There's a saying

What if Grandma had a mustache?

I've already admitted that it was silly! :)

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16 minutes ago, Knock said:

That goes in the looney bin too if thats what it means xD

@Knock :D

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11 hours ago, DrewNows said:

Let me ask you this, who is the "i" that does not know?

@Inliytened1 Why do you think the truth must be spoken? Who said that? Truth does not care if it was spoken or not, but the ego does.

Not that there's something wrong with the ego or anything, but why deny that fact?

Be aware of the subtle judgements you make.

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14 hours ago, Truth Addict said:

@Nahm

I have stopped pursuing Truth.

I don’t believe you. 

I know what is true,

No you don’t. 

but I don't know what you guys talk about.

Yes you do. It is You, the creator of the veils, the Veiless One. 

Although I kind of know,

Yes. 

it's the sense of wonder and not recognising the things as mundane anymore, but rather as magical.

Yep. 

I want that feeling because I am just a human being.

Nope. That feeling is literally You. It is filtered by what is not you. Veils you create, like “I am just_________”. Doesn’t matter what word goes in that blank, until it is The Truth. 

Right now, I don't feel no bliss and no suffering. Just a neutral feeling of peace.

That is great to hear. More please. :)   

I love you too ❤️ even though I don't feel the kind of romantic love I imagine "enlightened" people feel.

Romantic is thought/love. I believe you want romance in your life. I believe you Are the Love of Life, and romance follows this inevitably. Only in “I am not Love”, can love be desired. In “I am Love”, Love is instantly Created. Unfettered by desire, Love abounds. This full circle must include you, all of you, all emotion. Pure Love is thoughtless, innocent in it’s ignorance of condition.

Just a neutral feeling of love, not a feeling of high anyway.

The response arises, and is expressed, thought story believed & perpetuated, resulting in.... “love is neutral”. The attention went to the thought story, unbeknownst to “the knower”, emotion (True Self / True Love...Inspiration) remains repressed. It is thought which is powerless in it’s relative inherent circular neutrality.

Any thought can contain the content, the implication of the untruth - that it is Love which is neutral. Thought is sneaky. So sneaky. It must be so, to keep up with such a Love. 

A day comes when the thought response is kept, accounted for, considered one’s own, not expressed to an other, no excuse of a catalyst in thought is accepted nor utilized, but rather, accepted as one’s own...thereby revealing Self within self.  As as such the Truth is realized, as Yourself, Love, and the hilarity of any possibility of You / Love being of any “neutrality” is crystal clear. 

And so, you Love, because it is You. Inseparably Infinitely One Love. Meditation is The Way.  

You’ve not seen it, lost it, found it, exchanged it. Never was love handed to you, nor read in a book. It’s not been picked up on the side walk, nor discovered in a tomb. It won’t be explained on a whiteboard nor mailed in a letter.  Only in You has there ever been Love. Only within yourself have you ever experienced Love. 

 


  Nonduality & Meditations         

Empty your head, fulfill your heart       

 

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49 minutes ago, zambize said:

Ehh youd just be able to play only one note

it wouldn’t be a flute then it would be a pipe. 

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12 hours ago, DrewNows said:

 

@Nahm Just because you are good at writing does not make it true.

And yes I know what is true. You are in no place to talk about what I know.

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The Absolute is not relative.  It's One.  All form is duality or relativity.

But going back his original question - there is a horrifying aspect to the Absolute - and that is to the Ego.  Its also incredibly powerful when it comes on - far too powerful for mortals to handle and that's why most of the time the ego won't surrender.  But the ego must dissolve and that is terrifying to it.

There is a very horrifying realization that you will have and that is to truly become conscioisness that you are a hallucination.  

The other realization that is terrifying is that you are alone.   

All of this is from the Ego's perspective of course.

But the beauty and the Love are so strong that it will just melt you.

Edited by Inliytened1

We must not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive at the place where we began and to know the place for the first time.       --T.S Eliot

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18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

The Absolute is not relative.  It's One.  All form is duality or relativity.

But going back his original question - there is a horrifying aspect to the Absolute - and that is to the Ego.  Its also incredibly powerful when it comes on - far too powerful for mortals to handle and that's why most of the time the ego won't surrender.  But the ego must dissolve and that is terrifying to it.

There is a very horrifying realization that you will have and that is to truly become conscioisness that you are a hallucination.  

The other realization that is terrifying is that you are alone.   

All of this is from the Ego's perspective of course.

But the beauty and the Love are so strong that it will just melt you.

Stop narrating horror bedtime story.

Thank you very much :ph34r:


If you want the moon, do not hide from the night
If you want a rose, do not run from the thorns
If you want love, do not hide from yourself

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@Shin lol..hey this is some serious shit...they should be aware of it before they choose the path.  Its not for the faint of heart...But to Awaken just makes all of it worthwhile and once your ego gets past the shock its Absolutely wonderful,


We must not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive at the place where we began and to know the place for the first time.       --T.S Eliot

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2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Shin lol..hey this is some serious shit...they should be aware of it before they choose the path.  Its not for the faint of heart...But to Awaken just makes all of it worthwhile and once your ego gets past the shock its Absolutely wonderful,

They won't believe it, they will be as stupid as us 9_9


If you want the moon, do not hide from the night
If you want a rose, do not run from the thorns
If you want love, do not hide from yourself

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@Shin yeah i had no idea what i was in for...maybe it IS better that way :)

 


We must not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring will be to arrive at the place where we began and to know the place for the first time.       --T.S Eliot

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