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Spiral Dynamics Stage Yellow Examples Mega-Thread

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1 hour ago, Girzo said:

@DocWatts @Elevated Guys, I have almost missed a book you are talking about, because there were no pictures in any of your post, but the books seem very interesting, so I will post a cover there to catch attention of people browsing this thread in the future, haha.

Buy it here: https://www.amazon.com/Listening-Society-Metamodern-Politics-Guides/dp/8799973901

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Sorry about that, and thank you. I can't recommend the book highly enough for anyone with an interest in the emerging paradigm of metamodernism, or in developmental psychology. If models like Spiral Dynamics and The Nine Stages of Ego Development are of interest to you, you should read this; you'll come away with a much richer understanding of the paradigm that gave birth to both of those models.

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The problem is one of opposition between subjective and objective points of view. 

So either the objective conception of the world is incomplete, or the subjective involves illusions that should be rejected.  - Thomas Nagel

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@Moon I feel like there's a fine distinction between blue thinking and blue 'way' of thinking.
Like for example you can reach opposite conclusions with the same thinking. 

Let's talk about Blue for example:

  1. I can say that "Women aren't allowed in the religious worshipping place of my religion because God said so in the religious book", or
  2. I can say that "Women must go to pray in the religious worshipping place because God said you shouldn't leave your women alone at home", or
  3. I can also say that " Women must be allowed in every place where men are allowed because the law of my country says that men and women are to be treated equally and you cannot argue with the law"

Now if we talk about Yellow (that's just me assuming I can understand yellow, I might be delusional. I definitely don't have turquoise qualities so I won't even talk about that):

  1. I can do a whole calculation based on the psychology of how a man and a woman are attracted to each other, following what social norms would allow the faster and more efficient spread of the important ideas and what social norms are the ones that will definitely backfire in the future (i.e. how 'revolutionary' can I really be because if I'm too much against the current norms, they're gonna kill me and I'm not making any change around here), how much change can people tolerate without their entire worldview breaking down to the point that I create a crisis, what are the other cultures present in the world and how do I scale it, and many many many other factors. After all of that I can arrive at the conclusion that it isn't wise to allow women in the worshipping place.
  2. I can do a very similar contemplation/calculation and reach a conclusion that it is okay for women to gather and worship with men.

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stage yellow talking to a largely stage orange/green crowd

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Not sure if this would fall under yellow but I found the take to be pretty nuanced, especially considering people tend to separate all foods into little "good" and "bad" categories without a lot of scrutiny. This video looks into the models and the ways people experiment in the food sciences to reach the claims they have and the limitations pertaining to those methods. 


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‘YELLOW’ economics to me is not just finding a synthesis between Capitalism and Socialism, if a YELLOW person finds that what is needed is full blown Socialism, then he will enact so.

This video is YELLOW as it perfectly reveals the YELLOW FlexFlow when he says ‘do what works’. He’s not acting out of a single ideological lenses like lower SDi codes do, he’s saying ‘integrate and do what works’.  

YELOW economics is ‘do what will work given the conditions of the society and its people’, whereas 1st tier codes, it’s more like ‘do what I want to work’.

ORANGE does not want to consider Marxism, GREEN does not want to consider Classical Lib theory, and BLUE just want to uphold the economic status quo, whether it be  a left or right wing status quo.

And RED is all about the ‘Fuck you’ and proceeds to leave the room:P

Also, can we just all appreciate how Obama is taking the time to praise CUBA, a historical U.S enemy? What a guy!

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''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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On 28.01.2021 at 1:29 AM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

YELLOW economics is ‘do what will work given the conditions of the society and its people’, whereas 1st tier codes, it’s more like ‘do what I want to work’.

Yellow economics is something more. It's do what will work, but also doing it for the right values, creating a self-sustaining or even regenerative system. Looking long-term.

Doing what works is not enough, because exploitation often works very well in the short-term.

A stage Yellow economist:

 

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Spiral dynamics as a simple dot art

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''To be happy we must not be too concerned with others''.

Albert Camus

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On 1/29/2021 at 11:52 AM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Spiral dynamics as a simple dot art

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That is cool. Love how effectively minimalist design is used here.


The problem is one of opposition between subjective and objective points of view. 

So either the objective conception of the world is incomplete, or the subjective involves illusions that should be rejected.  - Thomas Nagel

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On 2.2.2021 at 7:23 PM, tuckerwphotography said:

Good interview with Zeynep Tufekci about viewing the pandemic from a systems thinking perspective. I’m also an Ezra Klein fan - I feel he’s one of the sharpest minds in media. I’d peg him at 25% Orange, 50% Green, 25% Yellow.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447?i=1000507425657

I found the way Zeynep Tufekci answers the question "How did you feel about the decision of twitter and facebook to ban Donald Trump?" (at 46:42) very fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

 


"Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.”

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“Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood. Now is the time to understand more, so that we may fear less.”

Marie Curie 


Enter their minds, and you’ll find the judges you’re so afraid of – and how judiciously they judge themselves.

- Marcus Aurelius

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Ranking games by stages with some exploration of potential higher tire games. 

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2 hours ago, Raze said:

 

didnt watch the videos (so i may be wrong) but Ken is turquoise all the time :)

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