Spiral Dynamics Stage Blue Examples Mega-Thread

[Rilles]

 

[Carl-Richard]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The relativist guy is still not properly relativist. He does not want to flat out say that rape is not wrong.

Dare I say he is relatively relativist . He is trying to clothe subjectivity with objectivity, which is syntactically taxing and excessive. Maybe he is using it as a rhetorical device, to maintain good optics, or it's just based on an internal drive to be objective.

Edited November 7, 2020 by Carl-Richard

[Fadl]

Is this blue or sth else? 

 

 

[tuckerwphotography]

1 hour ago, Fadl said:

Is this blue or sth else? 

 

 

@Fadl Definitely Stage Blue

[Fadl]

1 hour ago, tuckerwphotography said:

Definitely Stage Blue

I respect your opinion but my question is how do you know that? I’m not talking about their funny hats or their hair style, I’m talking about their principles. 

[Carl-Richard]

1 minute ago, Fadl said:

I respect your opinion but my question is how do you know that? I’m not talking about their funny hats or their hair style, I’m talking about their principles. 

They're Hasidic jews.

[tuckerwphotography]

11 minutes ago, Fadl said:

I respect your opinion but my question is how do you know that? I’m not talking about their funny hats or their hair style, I’m talking about their principles. 

@Fadl Hasidic Jews are textbook stage Blue. Read the description of Blue below then watch the videos you posted and decide for yourself. Certainly there's also aspects of Purple, Red and Orange present, but the community as a whole is SOLID Blue.

 

Blue “Order” vMEME

After the very individualistic Red vMEME, the next level goes back again to the more community-focused orientation. The Blue “Purposeful/Authoritarian” vMEME, as the fourth “awakening,” began about 5,000 years ago. The basic rules for the Blue vMEME are:Life has meaning, direction and purpose with outcomes determined by an all-powerful Other or Order. This vMEME brings discipline to the spiral because you are now “following a higher order.”

The characteristic beliefs and actions of the Blue vMEME include:

Sacrificing of the self to the transcendent Cause, Truth, or righteous Pathway.

Allowing the Order to enforce a code of conduct based on eternal, absolute unvarying principles of “right” and “wrong”—there is one right way to live and deviations from the path are punished.

Following the right path produces security now and guarantees future reward; if you don’t follow the path, well, you’ve made your choices.

Displaying missionary zealotry, which can be short on evidence and long on belief and faith, as well as closed minds. When you run into people with very rigid thought structures, you are dealing with someone who is residing at the Blue vMEME.

Engaging in pleasurable acts is seen as frivolous; humor is rare; actions are based in judgment not compassion, although there is a lot of talk about compassion.

Operating from a fundamentalist, conventional, traditional, and conformist worldview.

Where do you find the Blue vMEME expressed? The following provides a sample:

Christian and Islamic fundamentalism, Puritan America, Dickensian England, Singapore’s strict discipline, witch hunts, codes of chivalry and honor, the Spanish Inquisition, the caste system in India, Frank Capra’s It’s a Wonderful Life, Boy and Girl Scouts, and patriotism.

The Blue vMEME includes 35% to 40% of the world population, and 25% to 30% of the power. The figures are somewhat lower in the United States.

The following provides more detail about the typical qualities seen in the Blue “Order” vMEME.

Characteristics: Only one right way; Purpose in causes; Guilt in consequences; Sacrifice for honor

Decision making: Orders from authority; Do right, obey rules; Adhere to tradition; Righteous earn spoils

Education: Truth from authority; Traditional stair steps; Moralistic lessons; Punishment for errors

Family: Seat of truths and values; Proper places for all, respect for parents; Codes of conduct; Teaches moral ways

Community: Peace-and-quiet; Cautious and careful; Tidy, green, and neat; Born into society

Life space: Law abiding citizen, Places for everybody; Seeks peace of mind; Rewards to come

The Blue vMEME is one the core constituencies of the Republican Party and comprises the “moral majority” in the United States today.

Edited November 8, 2020 by tuckerwphotography

[tuckerwphotography]

@Fadl You can also read more about Don Beck's work in Israel/Palestine which goes into depths on the memes present in these countries.

Edited November 8, 2020 by tuckerwphotography

[FlyingLotus]

Dave Ramsey is a good example of healthy blue and orange.  He emphasizes discipline, honesty, personal responsibility and a Christian code of ethics.  I’d say he’s more blue than orange because of a Christian framework that prioritizes the family unit over individual ambition.  

It's a healthy blue that augments healthy orange and green.  Interestingly, his Christianity is based on a direct experience of reading the Bible instead of just following other religious people.  

 

Why The Prosperity Gospel Is Wrong!:

His perspective here is nuanced and fair to different sides of the argument.  

 

We Need More MEN In This Culture:

Doesn’t blame women or culture, but stresses personal responsibility of both men and women in creating a strong family.

 

A healthy Blue/Orange defense of Jay-Z, lol:

 

Caller was not expecting Ramsey’s reaction:

 

Edited November 8, 2020 by FlyingLotus

[Rilles]

7 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Yea, not sure where to post this. I was driving out in the rural parts of Maryland and I saw a KKK flag infront of someone's house

Should've taken a photo. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Yea, not sure where to post this. I was driving out in the rural parts of Maryland and I saw a KKK flag infront of someone's house

You mean confederate flag or actual KKK?

[AtheisticNonduality]

Ha, here's a misguided Stage Blue reaction to Stage Turquoise spirituality:

https://satellitesaint.com/2020/01/28/playing-with-demons/

[Leo Gura]

On 11/8/2020 at 3:01 PM, Husseinisdoingfine said:

It looked like this exactly: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/KKK-Flag.svg

It was posted right next to a Trump banner

Haha!

[Rilles]

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[Rilles]

 

[Raphael]

 

[Joel3102]

watch this blue guy take the political compass test, and greens reaction to it. 

It really gives you an insight into the blue mind, and the degree to which they’re basically living in a different universe. Like, imagine thinking porn should be illegal...

[andyjohnsonman]

 

John Butler beautifully teaches a stage blue person how to change their ways

[mmKay]

Is the "giving a name to your baby" cultural norm stage blue? 

What I'm trying to say, your parents choose a name for you, "against your will"  in a way , and indoctrinate you to belive that you are actually called " Joe " , when it's a totally relative and meaningless label. 

You are totally free to introduce yourself to others as Arnold from today on, and refer to yourself as Arnold. If you want. 

Same goes for last names. The pride of your last name, the desire to get married and pass it to your children, etc. 

[Carl-Richard]

@mmKay Or you can look at it from the perspective of being a Stage Purple construct. The name is given to you by the tribe as a way of establishing your relationship to the tribe. Only other people can call your name. Language is a social construct, which means that your name (tribal identity) can only ever arise inside a tribe in the first place. Having a name is therefore as much a collective function as an individual function. You don't need a name if you're alone.

Edited November 15, 2020 by Carl-Richard