Kriya Yoga Mega-Thread

[TheSelf]

2 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

In my experience- state is only as important to the level / degree in which  it enables understanding.

A state of kangaroo Consciousness is probably pretty cool to explore, but even better if it gets one closer to Pure Understanding.

So is the case for all other states. What’s a state of Enlightenment worth without pure understanding that comes along with it? Not much in the end ..

I want you to understand how all states is equal from Absolute POV. And calling a specific state 'better', 'important' or thinking something worth and the other thing isn't is just the egoic-mind.

And also understanding the self (shiva) is beyond any states or enlightenment experiences as he is stateless, unmoving, ever shining reality in which all states come and go(shakti as pranic field of changes) but he doesn't move an inch. Only through intense self-enquiry you reach this self-realization.

[Terell Kirby]

2 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

And also understanding the self (shiva) is beyond any states or enlightenment experiences as he is stateless, unmoving, ever shining reality in which all states come and go(shakti as pranic field of changes) but he doesn't move an inch. Only through intense self-enquiry you reach this self-realization.

how do you know shiva isn't some made up construct you're imagining?

Be careful to check if your ideas of self / shiva are your own, or if they have been adopted by some external source.

This is the real work

[TheSelf]

16 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

how do you know shiva isn't some made up construct you're imagining?

Be careful to check if your ideas of self / shiva are your own, or if they have been adopted by some external source.

This is the real work

Call it Shiva, the self, awareness, consciousness whatever, doesn't matters.

I understand what you mean but Self-realization isn't about gathering ideas about yourself, but contemplating to see beyond any ideas, thoughts, states, mind's self-deceptions, who are 'you'?

Going deep in the heart of yourself seeing the truth, understanding and being liberated.

Edited November 16, 2025 by TheSelf

[Davidess]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Nothing matters but Understanding.

From my perspective, Understanding is just step number 1. What if there are steps beyond it? It's the most important step in a sense that without it, you cannot move forward in the right direction.

But what if "Being" is beyond Understanding? You can understand you are Love, get a psychedelic insight about that, but what's good about it if you cannot embody it? It doesn't mean to act lovingly (positively) in every circumstance (as a stage Green person would), but actually radiating Love, becoming it, being reverent, not in a forceful way, but as a natural way of being.

[Ishanga]

4 hours ago, Davidess said:

From my perspective, Understanding is just step number 1. What if there are steps beyond it? It's the most important step in a sense that without it, you cannot move forward in the right direction.

But what if "Being" is beyond Understanding? You can understand you are Love, get a psychedelic insight about that, but what's good about it if you cannot embody it? It doesn't mean to act lovingly (positively) in every circumstance (as a stage Green person would), but actually radiating Love, becoming it, being reverent, not in a forceful way, but as a natural way of being.

Yes, if You "Understand" then You will Embody it that is that.. States are the 1st priority of You really want to Know what is Reality, then Understanding comes with it, but Understanding is limited for sure as "What are You trying to Understand?".  As SJV said in the poster, with Kriya You get to know the nuts and bolts of Existence, I think this is Understanding right? Some may put that primary, but for Me State of BEING is primary, get that down so that naturally Your intouch with Truth and Reality/God/Absolute then Your there, understanding wise and other wise.. From what I know, to be Enlightened doesn't mean all knowing either, there are levels to it...

The problem with Psychedelic use, especially for those that have little to no experience with Spirituality, when they have a "Grand Experience" there is fear attached to it in the beginning and maybe Bliss and Completeness experience at the end, they come out of it wanting it again and again with no real insight that produces lasting change in their lives, its too quick of a uprising in Experience if You ask Me, they then "Experience" chase it, just for the experience alone, and many times think this is the only way, when it is not the only way to have Grand Experiences.  The key is permanent change, which happens more safely imo with more traditional practices like Yoga or Daoism and such.. Just see on the psychedelic forum that one guy is experience chasing for sure, addicted already, this is no good

Edited November 16, 2025 by Ishanga

[Ishanga]

Thought to share this here, Sadhguru talking about Oja's, subtle Energy fields that we all have within and around Us, and how to enhance them with Yogic practices, this talk is from 2002!

He says the amount and quality of your Oja's determines many things in Your life, like the intensity of Your Presence, and how ppl can feel it around You! 

Very Interesting stuff!!

 

[TheSelf]

When doing pranayama I'd suggest not just move energy up down, do a contemplation session to just think about it...think about what you are doing, what the heck this practice is actually is!!

Prana is your whole life experience (the vibratory field) and you are always controling it either consciously or unconsciously!

And now you are directly controling it command it to purify your whole body physiologicaly, energticaly and produce a desired state of consciousness for you!! 

Who can do this? An individual entity living in a physical world??!! 

Yeah, God can only do that! You! 

You do not do it to become something else, you do it and you actually do it magicaly to realize you are God!

Think about moving your hand, a very basic manipulation of your prana, the forces that work together to make that happen as you wish and it happens instantly! You do it not by imagining it but by being it! You don't think this is magical but think actual direct control of your energy for any porpuse you desire is a miracle right?!

[Salvijus]

On 2025-11-08 at 0:51 PM, TheSelf said:

Regular daily practice of Kriya Yoga is very important, as even gaining a little bit of progress in terms of sensing your energy or any effect of the practice you start to feel, you don't wanna lose!

This is true spirituality, literally transforming your entire experience of life towards liberation on all levels!

None of your psychedelic experiences do matter as the real work is to be done through Kriya Yoga path by changing your body physiologicaly, energetically.

Also I wanna emphasize again on some daily hatha yoga too, my experience of the energy is on whole new level all thanks to hatha practices that opened and purified many of the nadis and the three channels.

So keep practicing guys! 

I would echo what you're saying aswell. 

Jumping on a trampoline is not the same as actually climbing the ladder. If you were to wipe out the memory of a sage, he would still remain a sage. If you were to wipe out the memories of a psychonout, you would find just an avarage guy. Jumping on a trampoline is fine but unless you're actually climbing the ladder, from existencial point of view, you're not going anywhere. 

Edited December 23, 2025 by Salvijus

[Thought Art]

Qigong is complimentary to Pranayama/ Krya. Qi is mysterious but it’s a real thing. There will be a new generation of Yogi’s and Qigong practitioners who explore, teach and study this field. 

[Magnanimous]

JC Stevens says that you should start doing pranayama for 12 reps a day. Then after a few months increase to 24

But I only plan on doing pranayama and maha mudra. So I can obviously increase the rate.

How do I know when to increase the amount of pranayamas I'm doing?

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura  I am doing kriya yoga consistently, you mentioned that you do 36 breaths in a 25 minute time span, twice a day. I am doing 25 minute sessions, but it's difficult to only do 36 breaths, I am breathing in for 6-9 seconds, holding the breath for 30 seconds and releasing very slowly, and repeat for the  rest of the duration. Am I doing something wrong or is there anything to keep in mind, or to add. Thanks 🙏🏽 I want to make sure I'm doing this accurately before investing in this time to make sure I'm doing it right to get the benefits without wasting my time doing it wrong and to have peace of mind. Like making sure my rocket has enough fuel and is set up properly so I know it'll take of in time and not worry about it when I'm in and priming the pump.

Edited 23 hours ago by ExploringReality

[Leo Gura]

On 12/30/2025 at 10:34 PM, Magnanimous said:

JC Stevens says that you should start doing pranayama for 12 reps a day. Then after a few months increase to 24

But I only plan on doing pranayama and maha mudra. So I can obviously increase the rate.

How do I know when to increase the amount of pranayamas I'm doing?

12 is way too little. You can and should start with more.

11 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

@Leo Gura  I am breathing in for 6-9 seconds, holding the breath for 30 seconds and releasing very slowly, and repeat for the  rest of the duration.

This is WRONG.

You are not supposed to hold the breath. You inhale for 30 seconds, hold a few seconds, then slowly exhale.

Slow down your inhale and exhale as long as possible. You do this by constricting your throat to sip the air. It's like breathing through a straw.

Edited 23 hours ago by Leo Gura

[ExploringReality]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is WRONG.

You are not supposed to hold the breath. You inhale for 30 seconds, hold a few seconds, then slowly exhale.

Slow down your inhale and exhale as long as possible. You do this by constricting your throat to sip the air.

Thank you!!!!! My Goodness. I knew I was fucking up. I'm on it. Is there anything else, visualizing ect? Are inhaling through the nose or mouth? Are you exhaling through the nose or mouth?

Edited 23 hours ago by ExploringReality

[Leo Gura]

29 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

Thank you!!!!! My Goodness. I knew I was fucking up. I'm on it. Is there anything else, visualizing ect? Are inhaling through the nose or mouth? Are you exhaling through the nose or mouth?

Visualize cold electrical energy moving up the center of your spine.

All through the nose. No mouth.

[Oppositionless]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Visualize cold electrical energy moving up the center of your spine.

All through the nose. No mouth.

I was messing up in a similar fashion thank you.

i was wondering why I got nauseous after kriya almost throwing up serveral times and why my volume was so low. I was holding too long, thanks.

Edited 22 hours ago by Oppositionless

[ExploringReality]

21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Visualize cold electrical energy moving up the center of your spine.

All through the nose. No mouth.

There are no more questions. Thank you master Yoda 😄 👌🏽

Edited 22 hours ago by ExploringReality

[Harikrishnan]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Visualize cold electrical energy moving up the center of your spine.

All through the nose. No mouth.

Hey @Leo Gura when visualising my attention goes to root and as breath moves attention follows, but it is mentioned in both text that concentrate on ajna. Is that ok and will it rectify with practice? 
also it takes me 12 minutes to complete 36 reps, without staying silent(meditation) after KP

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Harikrishnan said:

Hey @Leo Gura when visualising my attention goes to root and as breath moves attention follows, but it is mentioned in both text that concentrate on ajna. Is that ok and will it rectify with practice? 

You cannot focus on two things at once. Focus on visualizing the energy up your spine to the crown. Linger on the crown at the end of your inhale.

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also it takes me 12 minutes to complete 36 reps, without staying silent(meditation) after KP

That means your breaths are very short. Work on slowing them down and lengthening each inhale.

Also do more reps to fill 30-60 mins. Just set a timer for 30 mins and don't even count reps. There is no point in counting reps as long as you do them properly.

Edited 10 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Davino]

10 hours ago, Harikrishnan said:

when visualising my attention goes to root and as breath moves attention follows, but it is mentioned in both text that concentrate on ajna. 

Usually the texts say to rest your eyes on the third eye but your attention on the visualization.

When you start is common to follow your attention with the eyes, while doing yoga or vipassana. With time this needs to be resolved because it doesn't disconnect consciousness/awareness from the body faculty; by resting the eyes on the ajna and moving attention/awareness through the body, the knot of the eye-brain is eventually dissolved and one can feel through reality 360° independently of the eyes, because consciousness and consciousness skills are not eye dependent but direct awareness. As you progress, even the concentration of tunnel vision will dissolve making awareness and your visual perception panoramic and whole. 

This is my current understanding.

Edited 5 hours ago by Davino

[Harikrishnan]

@Leo Gura @Davino Thanks