Kriya Yoga Mega-Thread

[UnbornTao]

22 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

What fantasy? 

I thought it'd be obvious: the entire video, the notion of mahasamadhi.

It boils down to: "He dead."

Edited November 3, 2025 by UnbornTao

[Ishanga]

15 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

I thought it'd be obvious: the entire video, the notion of mahasamadhi.

It boils down to: "He dead."

Well You say mahasamadhi is fantasy, others say it is not, whom to believe? 

I think when we term things as fantasy it can be misleading, our bodies and mind are not fantasy, non existent things, they exist but they are not what we are, but we still have to deal with it all, if You don't then trouble awaits, You have a grand experience either naturally or psychedelics and then come back from it, if You deny what is, "I have a Body and Mind" then it will rule You.,

So the process as described in the video, is how to deal with the Body, Mind, Emotions, Energy to get to a point of choosing to be here Embodied or not!

It doesn't boil down to "He's dead", it boils down to imo that You choose how to do it, as with all things in life, are You doing it consciously or unconsciously, dying consciously is wiser imo...

[TheSelf]

51 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

So the process as described in the video, is how to deal with the Body, Mind, Emotions, Energy to get to a point of choosing to be here Embodied or not!

I don't think Mahasamdhi is anything specific for advanced yogis as they can materialize and dematerialize their bodies at will.

 

[TheSelf]

More about purification as I think preparatory process is extremely important for further advancement in Kriya Yoga.

 

🧘‍♂️What is Purification in Yogic Tradition?

In the yogic sciences, purification (shuddhi) refers to the systematic removal of physical, energetic, mental, and karmic impurities that block the natural flow of prana (life-force energy), distort perception, and prevent access to deeper states of consciousness.

Without proper purification, the energy remains blocked, the mind restless, and the body unfit to handle the intense vibrations of spiritual awakening. Yogic texts emphasize that without purifying the system, true meditation or higher states like samadhi remain unstable or inaccessible.

Purification is done across five levels:

1. Physical purification (cleaning the body and organs),

2. Energetic purification (cleansing the nadis and chakras),

3. Mental purification (removing emotional and thought clutter),

4. Intellectual purification (removing egoic distortions),

5. Karmic purification (removing deep-seated imprints and tendencies).

🔥 The Classical Methods of Yogic Purification

1. Shatkarma (The Six Yogic Cleansing Techniques)
These are ancient yogic techniques meant to purify the physical body and subtle channels:

Neti cleanses the nasal passages and sinuses using saline water or a thread.

Dhauti involves swallowing and removing a cloth strip to cleanse the stomach and esophagus.

Nauli churns the abdominal muscles to tone the organs and purify the intestines.

Basti is a yogic enema to cleanse the colon.

Trataka involves fixed gazing at a flame or object to purify the eyes and improve concentration.

Kapalabhati uses forceful breath to clear the lungs and nadis and activate energy.


These practices are described in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika as essential prerequisites before deeper pranayama or meditation.

2. Nadi Shodhana (Alternate Nostril Breathing)
This practice specifically aims to purify the energy channels in the body. By balancing the left and right energy currents (Ida and Pingala), Nadi Shodhana allows the central channel (Sushumna) to gradually open. Once Sushumna is open, spiritual energy — especially Kundalini — can rise without obstruction.

3. Mantra Chanting and AUM
Chanting sacred mantras like AUM or So’ham purifies the system through vibration. The sound travels through the nadis, dislodging energetic blockages.
AUM specifically is powerful because it vibrates through all the major chakras — from the base to the third eye — and aligns the whole system with cosmic resonance. Mantras also purify the mind, quieting thoughts and harmonizing emotional patterns.

4. Pranayama (Breath Control)
Breath is the bridge between body and mind. Through practices like Bhastrika, Kapalabhati, Ujjayi, and Anulom Vilom, yogis purify both the physical breath and the pranic flows. Pranayama builds inner fire (agni), burns impurities, and clears subtle channels. It also brings deep stillness to the mind, which is essential for higher awareness.

5. Asana (Postures) for Purification
Yogic postures are not merely for flexibility. They are geometries of energy. Holding specific asanas directs prana into the chakras, granthis (knots), and energy centers. Certain postures stimulate glands, nervous system pathways, and open up physical blocks that hold emotional or karmic tensions

6. Yama and Niyama (Ethical and Mental Purification)
Yogis also practice purification of the mind and behavior through the ethical foundations of yoga. These include non-violence, truthfulness, discipline, cleanliness, contentment, and surrender. Without these mental purifications, inner stillness cannot be sustained — because the impurities of ego, anger, greed, and fear will continue to disrupt the energy body.

7. Tapas (Austerities) and Fasting
Yogis often undergo disciplined practices like fasting, silence, long meditation sittings, and isolation. These acts of voluntary discomfort burn deep impurities, dissolve karma, and increase inner fire (tapas). Tapas literally means “heat” — the heat that transforms the soul.


Final Thoughts

Purification isn’t a one-time task. It’s an ongoing unfolding — like peeling layers of an onion. As the outer impurities are burned away, subtler distortions are revealed and worked through. The deeper the purification, the more refined the body, mind, and breath become — and the more capable we are of absorbing silence, stillness, and divine energy.

As the Hatha Yoga Pradipika states:

> “When the nadis are purified, the breath flows freely through the Sushumna, and the mind becomes steady. Thus, the yogi becomes fit for meditation and samadhi.”, 

Without purification, yogic practices remain shallow or unstable. With purification, even simple breath and silence becomes sacred.

Source: ChatGPT

 

 

Edited November 3, 2025 by TheSelf

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

Well You say mahasamadhi is fantasy, others say it is not, whom to believe? 

I think when we term things as fantasy it can be misleading, our bodies and mind are not fantasy, non existent things, they exist but they are not what we are, but we still have to deal with it all, if You don't then trouble awaits, You have a grand experience either naturally or psychedelics and then come back from it, if You deny what is, "I have a Body and Mind" then it will rule You.,

So the process as described in the video, is how to deal with the Body, Mind, Emotions, Energy to get to a point of choosing to be here Embodied or not!

It doesn't boil down to "He's dead", it boils down to imo that You choose how to do it, as with all things in life, are You doing it consciously or unconsciously, dying consciously is wiser imo...

No one. If we admit that it's actually unknown and merely believed (in other words, it's hearsay passed down by other believers) then we should go with common sense - the lamest option, too commonplace to excite us in any way.

Besides common sense, critical thinking and factual accuracy are useful tools.

Oh yeah, if there's anything real about you in this sense, it's your body - I didn't mean to poo-poo that. Contrast that with your notions about it.

Fantasy is a broad domain. Anything based on hearsay or wishful thinking, I'd call fantasy. Most of spirituality, and certainly religion, falls into this. I'm not saying to use a philosophical system to ignore your experience; being grounded helps.

It reminds me of a quote from Krishnamurti - paraphrasing: "If people called it stretching instead of yoga, they wouldn't be so eager to undertake it." I suspect he's referring to Hatha Yoga, but the point stands: people are sometimes reluctant to call things by their plain name, preferring instead a feel-good belief system. The former is more empowering and real.

Sorry, I'm getting off-topic.

Edited November 3, 2025 by UnbornTao

[TheSelf]

Yoga is a systematic approach towards transforming you in physical, mental and energetic manner so you can be ready to experience and sustain cosmic consciousness.

I do have a plan to study Patanjali's work to deepn my understanding regarding the whole system.

[Ishanga]

17 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

No one. If we admit that it's actually unknown and merely believed (In other words, it's hearsay passed down by other believers) then we should go with common sense - the lamest option, too commonplace to excite us in any way.

Besides common sense, critical thinking and factual accuracy are useful tools.

Oh yeah, if there's anything real about you in this sense, it's your body - I didn't mean to poo-poo that. Contrast that with your notions about it.

Fantasy is a broad domain. Anything based on hearsay or wishful thinking, I'd call fantasy. Most of spirituality, and certainly religion, falls into this. I'm not saying to use a philosophical system to ignore your experience; being grounded helps.

It reminds me of a quote from Krishnamurti - paraphrasing: "If people called it stretching instead of yoga, they wouldn't be so eager to undertake it." I suspect he's referring to 'Hatha Yoga' but the point is made.

I can agree on this, I am not saying those things in my post for anyone to believe it or disbelieve, rather ppl have to find out themselves Experientially, so know one can say yes this is truth or no this is not truth, we individually have to find out.. But Yoga has been around for thousands of Years, they say and relate their experiences and methods they used to find out the truth for themselves.

This is the problem with talking about Grand Things like Enlightenment, Death, God, and Absolute, and wanting concrete answers, its doesn't work that way at all, what we write here is not IT, concepts are not IT, but we can use methods to first make ourselves Peaceful of our own nature, then from that solid foundation, we can go further and Explore what they have said in the past to find out if it is True or not..

Or one can continue to live they way they are, suffer today, feel good tomorrow, listen to other ppl, search for drama to feel their hearts beat, have kids, work to Your 80 then die, maybe to do it all over again or nothingness,,,

 

[Ishanga]

20 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Yoga is a systematic approach towards transforming you in physical, mental and energetic manner so you can be ready to experience and sustain cosmic consciousness.

I do have a plan to study Patanjali's work to deepn my understanding regarding the whole system.

Its a complete time tested methodology and science, today science is just finding out how powerful simple Mindfulness is, never mind the depths of what the Yogic Science has to offer.. From what I understand Yoga has found 80,000 different aspects to the Mind, the basic 4 are Intellect, Identity, Memory and Chitta or Consciousness, so its a complete investigation into what it means to be Human, via trial and error over the thousands of years its been around!!

[TheSelf]

11 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Its a complete time tested methodology and science, today science is just finding out how powerful simple Mindfulness is, never mind the depths of what the Yogic Science has to offer.. From what I understand Yoga has found 80,000 different aspects to the Mind, the basic 4 are Intellect, Identity, Memory and Chitta or Consciousness, so its a complete investigation into what it means to be Human, via trial and error over the thousands of years its been around!!

Yeah,

And modern human just don't care...

chasing after hedonism as it's all that life offers, not giving a damn about understanding one's self and consciousness.

At this century the work that people are doing regarding spreading yoga as a means to spread consciousness is nothing IMO.

Edited November 3, 2025 by TheSelf

[Ishanga]

12 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Yeah,

And modern human just don't care...

chasing after hedonism as it's all that life offers, not giving a damn about understanding one's self and consciousness.

At this century the work that people are doing regarding spreading yoga as a means to spread consciousness is nothing IMO.

Yes Agreed!

I've learned that life comes down to a simple equation, its the "Avoidance of Pain, and the Gaining of Pleasure", it seems simple, but we are all applying this equation to every action we take.. Just posting here, replying, ppl are either avoiding pain or gaining pleasure from it, then if they investigate further as to why posting/replying does one or the other, they would find out more about themselves, more Perception is revealed, but they won't do that, it takes too much work and inner discovery, its easier to just post, reply, say dumb things, and go on, so we have to delve deeply into what makes us tick, what it means to be Human and how far we can go in life beyond this equation, beyond survival/accumulation processes and see where it can lead too!

[UnbornTao]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

I can agree on this, I am not saying those things in my post for anyone to believe it or disbelieve, rather ppl have to find out themselves Experientially, so know one can say yes this is truth or no this is not truth, we individually have to find out.. But Yoga has been around for thousands of Years, they say and relate their experiences and methods they used to find out the truth for themselves.

This is the problem with talking about Grand Things like Enlightenment, Death, God, and Absolute, and wanting concrete answers, its doesn't work that way at all, what we write here is not IT, concepts are not IT, but we can use methods to first make ourselves Peaceful of our own nature, then from that solid foundation, we can go further and Explore what they have said in the past to find out if it is True or not..

Okay, sounds good.

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

Or one can continue to live they way they are, suffer today, feel good tomorrow, listen to other ppl, search for drama to feel their hearts beat, have kids, work to Your 80 then die, maybe to do it all over again or nothingness,,,

You'll live how you live regardless of whatever practices you may take up, but your point is clear.

[Jowblob]

On 11/3/2025 at 11:27 AM, TheSelf said:

Mostly proteins like chicken and eggs and some carbs like a bit of rice as I'm into bodybuilding too, I don't consume red meat.

 

Did you find that some types of food limited you somehow energetically or perhaps your prana? Perhaps it made you feel heavy or you had pain near solar plexus chakra? Or you never had these problems?

Edited November 6, 2025 by Jowblob

[TheSelf]

6 hours ago, Jowblob said:

Did you find that some types of food limited you somehow energetically or perhaps your prana? Perhaps it made you feel heavy or you had pain near solar plexus chakra? Or you never had these problems?

A few years ago that I've started I had many digestion issues, but it all healed.

The food that I consume doesn't have too much prana, as it's not sattvic kinda food.

Since this is no longer relevant as I'm not relying on food for pranic recharging I can eat any food and be fine.

But for people who are in early stages yet, based on yogic culture the food that you take does have effects on your consciousness, so it's adviced to eat consciously.

Edited November 7, 2025 by TheSelf

[Jowblob]

1 hour ago, TheSelf said:

A few years ago that I've started I had many digestion issues, but it all healed.

The food that I consume doesn't have too much prana, as it's not sattvic kinda food.

Since this is no longer relevant as I'm not relying on food for pranic recharging I can eat any food and be fine.

But for people who are in early stages yet, based on yogic culture the food that you take does have effects on your consciousness, so it's adviced to eat consciously.

Ok thanks, this confirms it for me that you're on a different stage. Because usually ones your kundalini starts to activate at the base or your consciousness is close to activation, problems with solar plexus will arise. And you won't be able to handle eating certain foods as it will cause extreme pain at solar plexus because of nervous system upgrade. So what it means is, you're close or near enlightenment or already enlightened because then you can eat whatever you want.

[TheSelf]

1 hour ago, Jowblob said:

Ok thanks, this confirms it for me that you're on a different stage. Because usually ones your kundalini starts to activate at the base or your consciousness is close to activation, problems with solar plexus will arise

Yea that's inevitable.

The pain that I went through in my stomach was so unbearable and savage to the point wishing my death from God every night. Literally countless nights that I couldn't sleep and had to just bear intebse pain for +10 hours for just eating some soup or boiled eggs.

1 hour ago, Jowblob said:

And you won't be able to handle eating certain foods as it will cause extreme pain at solar plexus because of nervous system upgrade.

The simplest foods could cause savage pain for hours and hours.

I couldn't imagine eating a slice of pizza, like that could literally kill me.

Edited November 7, 2025 by TheSelf

[Jowblob]

52 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Yea that's inevitable.

The pain that I went through in my stomach was so unbearable and savage to the point wishing my death from God every night. Literally countless nights that I couldn't sleep and had to just bear intebse pain for +10 hours for just eating some soup or boiled eggs.

The simplest foods could cause savage pain for hours and hours.

I couldn't imagine eating a slice of pizza, like that could literally kill me.

I feel your pain brother, as i have experienced this myself when my nervous system started upgrading. I wanted to hang myself, jump from rooftop apartment etc. The pain was unbearable and extreme. I remember my nervous system started getting so sensitive that even the sound waves of a meditation music on youtube was sending me into a bad trip because of new sensitivity to the enviroment. I think i lost weight from like 90kg to 65-70kg really fast also. Now i'm in a position that i can handle more heavy foods like eggs/flower etc. but i combine them with sattvic foods. And my diet still consists mainly of sattvic/alive ingredients. I guess i'm progressing towards where you are, but i'm not really doing anything as i trust in god and feel the presence of god near me a lot helping me out.

[TheSelf]

1 hour ago, Jowblob said:

I guess i'm progressing towards where you are, but i'm not really doing anything as i trust in god

Yeah, you can't do anything about it but just emmiting your light of awareness into whatever you're going through and as you said yourself, trust in God and the divine energy.

[Ishanga]

18 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

Yeah, you can't do anything about it but just emmiting your light of awareness into whatever you're going through and as you said yourself, trust in God and the divine energy.

I'm curious, what is Your definition of GOD?

[TheSelf]

21 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

I'm curious, what is Your definition of GOD?

I don't have one, cause it can't be 'defined'. 

Because of languages limits, I might use words like awareness, God, divine energy etc as if I'm pointing to separate things, but of course it's all just one reality.

Edited November 7, 2025 by TheSelf

[Ishanga]

6 minutes ago, TheSelf said:

I don't have one, cause it can't be 'defined'. 

Because of languages limitd, I might use words like awareness, God, divine energy etc as if I'm pointing to separate things, but of course it's all just one reality.

Ok!! And I agree words just don't do justice to it.. I've adapted the use of the word Absolute, in substitution for the word GOD since GOD invokes so many varying meanings and definitions by different ppl, with Absolute I refer to it as a realm of sorts, the most fundamental realm, not a place with boundaries and such, but its a realm that is all about Potentials and Possibilities, a realm of Completeness and Oneness, but there is no physicality, no boundaries, no way to express or experience to exist there, but since Potentials exist, we came into existence over time, are here to explore it in a limited way, Yoga is just a path to realizing this for a Human Being, a methodology and science to wipe the slate clean, regain memory of what Absolute is while Embodied.. 

I think no matter how Enlightened one is, even Guru level ppl, they still have to deal with the Body and Mind, even though they experientially know and realize they are not either of those things, only when we transcend this Earthly realm and go up the latter per say (astral realm and beyond) that just before we lose our individuality we realize more of Absolute than we can here while on Earth!