Carl-Richard

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28 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

So is it something he said you have a problem with, or what?

I'm saying that humans can learn, nothing crazy.

And also, that quoting something somebody said in 2019 does not say much about that person today, while it could, it is no guarantee.

I also saw some of the newer comments, I'm not talking about those.

 

Maybe there are better ways of calling someone out. Directly addressing to the thing you have a problem with, instead of just quotting messages. 

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5 minutes ago, PolyPeter said:

I'm saying that humans can learn, nothing crazy.

And also, that quoting something somebody said in 2019 does not say much about that person today, while it could, it is no guarantee.

I also saw some of the newer comments, I'm not talking about those.

 

Maybe there are better ways of calling someone out. Directly addressing to the thing you have a problem with, instead of just quotting messages. 

I'm just asking what you think.


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I think I told you what i think already

21 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I'm just asking what you think.

and my question has not been addressed. 

 

I repeat

how does Leo know for sure what's going on inside other poeple's awakenings?

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3 hours ago, Monster Energy said:

Have you ever cried a river of tears? I’ve never experienced that myself

 

I do that often even without ever having done psychedelics lol


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6 hours ago, PolyPeter said:

also, i just noted that many of the quoted things are YEARS old... which is like trying to cancel somebody over something they tweeted 10 years ago... not fair

That's how karma plays out, even if its 100 years ago, it has to be faced and integrated. Everything we put out in the world will eventually need to be faced, digested, transformed somewhere down the line to rise to higher levels of consciousness and embodiment. Often when you rise to new states of being old things from the past come up to test you and see if you are worthy to embody the new state of consciousness, as with greater consciousness comes greater power / responsibility. 

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4 hours ago, Eskilon said:

Its good that Leo said from the beginning that he could be full of shit, so this doesnt look too awful:D

Good shit that he has at least like 3 different kind of plausible deniability moves (that btw some of you guys will bring up every time as a defense when he is cornered or when he is asked to take responsibility) so that he can dodge taking responsibility when he doesnt want to or he doesnt need to admit that what he said was false:

1) Of course I said it from the beginning that I can be full of shit

2) I will deliberately put some % of false things in my teachings (the 90-10 split)

3) The given unhinged video or post definitely wasnt an unhinged emotional outburst or just expression of my narcisisstic superiority on my part , it was definitely either a conscious bait so that I can filter people out or it was just tough love so that I can help you guys awaken.

 

Tell me in which circiumstance some combination of those couldnt be used , and also tell me how fast some of the suckups would categorize a community as a cult if they would use those kinds of defeneses for their community leader.

Edited by zurew

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up there = safe
up there = right
up there = valuable
up there = untouchable

To understand Leo's ego(and even our own), check out Karen Horney's "aggressive/expansive" personality in "Neurosis and Human Growth". 

It's basically how the self comes to organize around superiority.

The Expansive resolves inner insecurity by becoming exceptional, superior, and invulnerable.

They exhibit:

• grandiosity
• need to be exceptional
• contempt for ordinary humanity
• intolerance for weakness
• drive toward greatness
• belief in one’s unique gifts

These coalesce to form what she calls the "Idealized Self", which becomes the organizing principle of the ego. The person constructs a grand image of who they are and the "Search for Glory" begins.

From there, a protective mechanism called the "Pride System" forms, which is a collection of strategies used to reinforce and maintain the Idealized Self. 

The main strategy of the Pride System is contempt for inferiority and mediocrity. 

Contempt for inferiority/mediocrity starts off as an internal defensive mechanism to protect the Idealized Self, but quickly gets externalized onto people who are seen to be embodying the traits the Idealized Self rejects. 

Horney says they justify their contempt by framing it as "high standards".

Which is very interesting because I just came across what seems to be a textbook example of that on Leo's blog. He recently shared a tragic story about a very lost and troubled young woman and his instinct was to use her as an example of human depravity and to equate her and most of humanity's behavior to that of an animal within the first 3 sentences. Then spent the rest of the post explaining that he only sees it this way because he has "high standards". 

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The Pride System needs narratives that feel principled, not self-serving, so it comes up with things like: 

  • I reject mediocrity and demand excellence
  • I'm principled, not arrogant
  • I'm not contemptuous, I just see clearly and call things what they are

The Expansive isn't conscious of any of this and they don't view themselves as egoic. They truly see themselves as principled, rigorous, strong, and as having the courage to look reality in the face and accept it. And there's definitely truth in that, but the problem is they see only what they want to see regarding themselves, which is that they are above and everyone else is below. 

Another aspect of the expansive type is that relationships with them are not collaborative/mutual, but hierarchical. To be vulnerable and a mere human engaging with another human on the same level implies "we are fundamentally the same kind of being", which threatens the Idealized Self. 

Just my theory. 

Edited by Joshe

What if this is just fascination + identity + seriousness being inflated into universal importance?

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Leo = "i am one if the most conscious human to ever lived. I am more conscious that moses, jesus, budha. "

Leo should win nobel Prize for psychidelic

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