What is an Original Thought?

[Butters]

And is it even possible?

For example: I can imagine a tiny pink elephant in my living room. Why? Because I've seen an elephant, I know the color pink, and I've seen my living room. 

But this is merely synthesis of existing experiences. This is not an original thought, just a remix. 

So, I want to know:

1. Is an original thought possible? 
2. How do you define it? 
3. How is an original thought created? When, where, by what process? 

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Butters said:

And is it even possible?

For example: I can imagine a tiny pink elephant in my living room. Why? Because I've seen an elephant, I know the color pink, and I've seen my living room. 

But this is merely synthesis of existing experiences. This is not an original thought, just a remix. 

So, I want to know:

1. Is an original thought possible? 
2. How do you define it? 
3. How is an original thought created? When, where, by what process? 

Most ppls thoughts are recycled data, memory coming up within this moment and stealing the moment away from them..This means what happened in the past will happen again now and in the future, so they are ruled by the past, but past does not exist, so they are ruled by something that does not exist which is insanity! Mind is past/memory and future/imagination orientated, not NOW orientated imo!

How to have an original thought? This is only done via Awareness, if You highly Aware of What Is and who You are, then You can have original thoughts, as Awareness is a form Intelligence that is not memory based, its fresh, new, creative and Yours to use if You get intouch with it!

[Human Mint]

1 hour ago, Butters said:

So, I want to know:

1. Is an original thought possible? 
2. How do you define it? 
3. How is an original thought created? When, where, by what process? 

1. It is possible.

2. "Original thought" is the definition

3. Through experiencing things a lot. Through working a lot with already existing things. Through contemplating something so much you see it from different angles. Through a mysterious process you can not explain but you can document.

So try to come with an original thought and until you don't come up with one you will not know the answers to your own questions. You might even get a better answer than mine.

Edited 8 hours ago by Human Mint

[AerisVahnEphelia]

they are not made but discovered through playing at the edges of mind frontier.
 

[UnbornTao]

Difficult to say.

Have (create in your experience) a thought you've never had.

We'll try to come up with different things, likely combining X and Y, as you suggested above, but yeah, it does seem to be a rare occurence.

[CARDOZZO]

1. Create an experience where you, other people, or the entire human race never knew about electricity.
2. Recreate from scratch everything necessary for electricity to exist in the first place.

Edited 8 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[Malkom]

Maybe so. But if you somehow gained access to the Multiverse, say, level 4, according to the conventional classification, that is, to the Absolute Ensemble, then any reality is possible, but your imagination will definitely be lacking. Grab this piece ahahaha
Maybe it will feel like inspiration; any fresh idea, when the whole puzzle comes together, feels like that, even if it's nonsense.

[Princess Arabia]

Every thought is original.

[Aaron p]

Kinda cool to investigate. Would I be typing these words if you hadn't asked this question? Do I decide how much insight I have? Do I govern how the electromagnetic neural networks in my brain have learned how to articulate an idea? Is there such a thing as a truly organic thought.. even if I chose not to think about your question, it would be for a reason, something in me that is well beyond my decision. 

But I do think there are thoughts that originate from higher levels of organic creativity. Everything influences everything. I wouldn't even be communicating in English right now if I was born in Tibet. This influence is so strong that it's hard to say that any thought is original at the most rigorous classification of what would qualify as truly original. In simpler terms, breaking things apart and rebuilding them manually seems to be the mark of higher levels of original richness. 

[Jannes]

You wondering what an original thought is

[Hojo]

@Butters if you take a psychedelic and have an original thought or experience is it even yours?

[CARDOZZO]

How do you access/create a original thought? 

INSIGHT

Edited 6 hours ago by CARDOZZO

[CARDOZZO]

 

 

[James123]

4 hours ago, Butters said:

And is it even possible?

For example: I can imagine a tiny pink elephant in my living room. Why? Because I've seen an elephant, I know the color pink, and I've seen my living room. 

But this is merely synthesis of existing experiences. This is not an original thought, just a remix. 

So, I want to know:

1. Is an original thought possible? 
2. How do you define it? 
3. How is an original thought created? When, where, by what process? 

There is no such thing as thought, like creating.

Thoughts are command of mind to body in order to function. That's all.

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

There is no such thing as thought, like creating.

Thoughts are command of mind to body in order to function. That's all.

Generally Yes, most of Us are just having repeated thoughts that come from recycled data that our brain process from all the information our 5 senses have brought in since birth and even before birth while in the womb at the point where we were able to sense at all..

But someone invented or discovered electricity and how to use it, and Ramanujan claims all his math insights came from his Deva the Hindu goddess Namagiri Devi, so what does that mean?

So it is possible to have original thoughts and insights, but one has to be very Conscious for this too happen which is rare nowadays!

[Reciprocality]

A pink elephant in the living room is less of a synthesis and more of an amalgamation. 

Identifying invariances across different things may be the only way to achieve originality, by inferring the intent that ties those differences together and contrasting it to an idealised alternative.

It is natural for humans of any age to do this because it is effectively to be in control and therewith reduce distress and uncertainty, we identify as a unique sense of self because we have done this very thing thousands or millions of times.

Originality is akin to dividing one number with another and achieve insight into the value that distributes in equal proportion between them, the pink elephant in the living room is akin to adding two numbers to achieve nothing more than what they already were.

Originality thus is like an insight into the intersection of things (the independent variable they rely on, their invariance, their mutual essence, their substitution class), absence of originality is like having only insight into their respective location or proximity among each other. 

[James123]

33 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

Generally Yes, most of Us are just having repeated thoughts that come from recycled data that our brain process from all the information our 5 senses have brought in since birth and even before birth while in the womb at the point where we were able to sense at all..

But someone invented or discovered electricity and how to use it, and Ramanujan claims all his math insights came from his Deva the Hindu goddess Namagiri Devi, so what does that mean?

So it is possible to have original thoughts and insights, but one has to be very Conscious for this too happen which is rare nowadays!

İnsights are like a flashlight, occurs in moment, yet still for the body. The question is where is that you, which have an insight or thought? Where is it hiding?

Finding an electricity is creative you think? Just look at the body, and see real creation, which will make you surrender thinking, therefore inevatibly you. 

There is not a you in mind that creates thinking, you is same thought as others. That's all.

[Joseph Maynor]

6 minutes ago, James123 said:

İnsights are like a flashlight, occurs in moment, yet still for the body. The question is where is that you, which have an insight or thought? Where is it hiding?

Finding an electricity is creative you think? Just look at the body, and see real creation, which will make you surrender thinking, therefore inevatibly you. 

There is not a you in mind that creates thinking, you is same thought as others. That's all.

How would you describe an insight?

[Salvijus]

@Joseph Maynor lol. Welcome back. 

[Someone here]

Damn very hardcore question. Good boy. There is no original thought.you take in words in your ears and shit them out of your mouth .

Try thinking in Hebrew. 😂