Leo Gura

Who Wants Actualized Psychedelic Retreats?

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I would absolutely be interested in a Europe event (in future).

Even if it were just a regular workshop/seminar. :D

Happy to wait a number of years for this. :)

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On 10/3/2025 at 7:42 PM, Nemra said:

@UnbornTao, have you become enlightened?

If so, do you really think that you would have been able to do it if you were in pain most of the time.

I hope you understand that certain things are not possible to do in certain states.

:D 

Ramana went through an experience of terror while simulating his own death on the floor - before his massive enlightenment.

What you think enlightenment is is not what it is.

On 10/3/2025 at 7:52 PM, Jodistrict said:

I have tended to find this to be true.  I have taken Bufo many times over a 5 year period and it gives mind blowing experiences.  But an experience no matter how intense is just an experience and the next day becomes a memory.  There is no particular value to having a mystical experience.  I heard in an interview with Shinzen Young that he has been working with scientists on TMS or Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation, as a possible technical boost to enlightenment.   He says that psychedelics don’t have the industrial strength nor precision to target the relevant brain areas.  If psychedelics worked, everyone would be enlightened by now. 

However, I am open minded, so potentially interested in learning more details on a seminar.   If there was a way to use psychedelics as a technical boost that would make subsequent spiritual practice more productive, even that modest goal would be highly valuable.

It's like drinking coffee within a dream in order to wake up from it. You may be stimulated but it can't wake you up; only you can do it, directly.

Oh, and it has nothing to do with the brain either. It's not an experience, so that is irrelevant in this context.

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He doesn't base his take on his experience with drugs, but on his direct consciousness!

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On 10/3/2025 at 9:06 PM, Leo Gura said:

So silly and false.

People really believe they do. And they want to believe the substances can.

But it's always about a relative phenomenon.

Again, the analogy of taking an stimulant within a dream may illustrate this point. At the end of the day it's an experience.

Not that one cannot grasp it regardless of circumstance - and independent of whatever's perceived, etc.

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26 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

:D 

Ramana went through an experience of terror while simulating his own death on the floor - before his massive enlightenment.

What you think enlightenment is is not what it is.

It's like drinking coffee within a dream in order to wake up from it. You may be stimulated but it can't wake you up; only you can do it, directly.

Oh, and it has nothing to do with the brain either. It's not an experience, so that is irrelevant in this context.

It does have something to do with the brain.  Consciousness is modulated through our nervous system.  This is what Yoga is about - purification of the nervous system to prepare it for higher consciousness.   Shinzen is actively working with scientists to locate the brain centers involved in enlightenment.  I tend to trust Shinzen on this subject because he was my first meditation teacher and I had personal contact with him and know he is for real.  But that is just personal to me.   

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29 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Ramana went through an experience of terror while simulating his own death on the floor - before his massive enlightenment.

You just now proved to me that the quality of the experience makes the difference, using Ramana's example.

Why do you assume that what he experienced is what you are experiencing or even capable of simulating?

Also, have you become enlightened or not? :)

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I'm definitely down for this! I've been fantasizing about going to an Actualized retreat for years now. Feels like a dream come true, glad I lived to see this moment lol :D

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14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I will interview everyone before they are allowed to attend.

@Leo Gura, to understand if they are mentally stable and want to do a serious trip?

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On 10/3/2025 at 2:10 AM, Leo Gura said:

I am designing a new kind of psychedelic group retreat. It is fully legal and will be held in Las Vegas. The purpose is not for fun but to do serious God-Realization with guidance from me. This is an experimental thing which is still in the planning stages.

Who is interested?

Down let's do it! I would fly down from Canada 


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9 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

He doesn't base his take on his experience with drugs, but on his direct consciousness!

This is false.

Ralston and Brendon do not understand psychdelics. Their statements about psychedelics are patently wrong and ignorant. They spread misinformation about psychedelics and consciousness. Be warned, if you listen to them on this topic you will be badly deceived.

7 hours ago, Nemra said:

@Leo Gura, to understand if they are mentally stable and want to do a serious trip?

I am not going to reveal what factors I screen for. If I do not feel comfortable with you, then you will not be attending. This is a serious event and it requires serious people.

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6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I am not going to reveal what factors I screen for. If I do not feel comfortable with you, then you will not be attending. This is a serious event and it requires serious people.

The determinant factor it'll be how many maturity points you get.

Watch what is maturity video to cheat the system :D

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7 hours ago, Yimpa said:

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5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am not going to reveal what factors I screen for. If I do not feel comfortable with you, then you will not be attending. This is a serious event and it requires serious people.

So, it's about checking people's attitudes and behaviors.

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On 05/10/2025 at 3:42 AM, Leo Gura said:

There are legal chemicals which we can use.

So you discovered a legal chemical that can give results comparable to 5-MeO? 

That’s interesting, hope you won’t gatekeep it too long 😁 

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On 03/10/2025 at 11:10 AM, Leo Gura said:

I am designing a new kind of psychedelic group retreat. It is fully legal and will be held in Las Vegas. The purpose is not for fun but to do serious God-Realization with guidance from me. This is an experimental thing which is still in the planning stages.

Who is interested?

I would attend it if it was in EU, looking forward for such events in EU Leo.

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100% bro do this. Like you said, making videos and only being online is isolating. A lot of growth can happen in in-person groups like this. I'd say go for it. What kind of psychedelics? N'N, 5meo, mushrooms, metocin, psilomethoxin? etc..

 

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2 minutes ago, Mayonnaise said:

psilomethoxin

Never heard about that chemical before. Interesting.

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7 hours ago, cistanche_enjoyer said:

So you discovered a legal chemical that can give results comparable to 5-MeO? 

That’s interesting, hope you won’t gatekeep it too long 😁 

Maybe I won't reveal it ever.


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