Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Terell Kirby]

7 minutes ago, oldhandle said:

People need to really understand that there is, simply, no universal law like gravity that says "people can talk whatever shit they want and absolutely nothing will happen to them". 

 

Of course there is no universal law. But just because there isn’t doesn’t mean we condone this kind of violence to those having opposing political views or worldviews in general.

This same kind of thinking that got peacemakers killed. When figures like MLK, Ghandi & Lincoln were assassinated- there were many who felt they deserved it. Charlie Kirk was not a peace maker by any means-but the same justifications and rationalizations for his killing are being used

We need to acknowledge how nuance this topic of political violence is.

Edited yesterday at 02:21 PM by Terell Kirby

[DocWatts]

What are the odds that the malicious incompetence of this regime - which has gone out of its way to replace career bureaucrats with yes men whose only qualification is personal loyalty to Trump - comes back to bite them in the ass, and they never catch this guy. 

 

 

[oldhandle]

2 minutes ago, carterfelder said:

What "vile" things do you speak of? Valuing objective reality is not "vile." No, I'm not talking about his Christian beliefs or pro-life stance, which were innocent enough anyways.

Kirk believed:

Gay people should be stoned to death
Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
No one should be allowed to retire
Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"
The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out
Religious freedom should be terminated
Multiple black politicians "stole white people's spots"
MLK Jr was "an awful person"
The Great Replacement Theory is reality
Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"
Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
Women's natural place is under their husband's control
Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn't
The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates
Madani winning in NY is a travesty because Muslims did 9/11
Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization
Palestine "doesn't exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
Said: "I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage."
Said: "Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised."

If that's not vile to you, there's no point in discussing this with you lmao.

[Recursoinominado]

13 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You guys are obviously masking HARD

You can't run around for 6 months like a chicken with it's head cut off screaming about fascist genocidal monsters to young impressionable kids, and then say you're sad about Kirk being killed, lmao.

I see no mention on here of people being "happy" about this, yet you guys are trying to reframe this indifference to Kirk as being happy for this, textbook masking, grasping at straws trying to say this is bad for democracy, rofl, after for 6 months you've been saying democracy is over and doesn't exist!

The backpeddaling and virtue signaling from people whose words foment this, disgusting.

Bro, aside from all moral judgment, even if you HATE the guy, you shouldn't be HAPPY because this will have horrible consequences, it will create a vibe of fear and hate, it will radicalize people even more, and violence can escalate to levels we cannot even imagine. There is nothing to be happy about it. 

[Terell Kirby]

Revisiting this episode to help navigate all the perspectival chaos in the media from all this:

 

Edited yesterday at 02:34 PM by Terell Kirby

[mats-2]

3 minutes ago, Recursoinominado said:

Bro, aside from all moral judgment, even if you HATE the guy, you shouldn't be HAPPY because this will have horrible consequences, it will create a vibe of fear and hate, it will radicalize people even more, and violence can escalate to levels we cannot even imagine. There is nothing to be happy about it. 

It was Trump who started all the hatred

[Recursoinominado]

Just now, mats-2 said:

It was Trump who started all the hatred

He didn't start anything; hatred and fear always existed, but fascists know how to manipulate masses into channelling their dark emotions towards a chosen common enemy, like the left in this case. 

[Princess Arabia]

7 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

I think everyone is desensitized to watching death on shorts and tiktoks. Two years of exploding babies will do that to you. We have all watched babies become living skeletons. There is no more shock at gore left. Who cares anymore about watching a grown man die on camera? 31 years is a life well lived. You would be lucky to get that many years in luxury no less in Gaza. Charlie can't just support death in Gaza but then when it comes to him now suddenly a victim exists. I hope his wife thinks long and hard about their family stance. But hey at least his children aren't orphans like in Gaza. They are lucky to have a widow for a mother

OK. Go killers, go. Keep 'em coming. Shoot 'em up. Take out their ribs and guts. What are we waiting for. Let's start with Kirk's babies for retaliation. Maybe go rape his wife while we're at it.

Edited yesterday at 02:35 PM by Princess Arabia

[Salvijus]

Charlie Kirk 

1993-2025

Hits hard... 

Thank you Charlie for your sacrifice and the light it brought forth. This event will accelerate the birthing of love even more now on the planet. I bow down to you for that ⛪🙇

May the peace be upon you 

It was an auspicious way to go 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:40 PM by Salvijus

[Schizophonia]

I don't know Krik at all, but it reminds me of the JK Rowling story. I interacted with several far-left people to find out why they hated her so much. I realized that it was essentially a collective mythomaniacal, nasty histrionic, and that JK hadn't said anything serious apart from a few RARE things vaguely skeptical about gender theory or stuff like that.
I took some allegations from some people on the thread and did some research on Google and ChatGPT and I found nothing, so it's probably lies too...

[Husseinisdoingfine]

19 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Edit:

⚠️⚠️⚠️ Massive NSFW warning ⚠️ ⚠️⚠️

Link below is the footage of the shot that hit him.

[Graphic Violence Warning]

https://files.catbox.moe/7vn2tm.mp4

I suppose thank you Leo for adding the additional warning.

Did you yourself watch the footage? How did you handle it and how did it affect you?

Edited yesterday at 02:38 PM by Husseinisdoingfine

[carterfelder]

8 minutes ago, oldhandle said:

Kirk believed:

Gay people should be stoned to death
Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
No one should be allowed to retire
Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"
The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out
Religious freedom should be terminated
Multiple black politicians "stole white people's spots"
MLK Jr was "an awful person"
The Great Replacement Theory is reality
Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"
Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
Women's natural place is under their husband's control
Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn't
The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates
Madani winning in NY is a travesty because Muslims did 9/11
Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization
Palestine "doesn't exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
Said: "I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage."
Said: "Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised."

If that's not vile to you, there's no point in discussing this with you lmao.

I'm looking up some of the more extreme views and I'm not finding any direct quotes. A lot of these other supposed quotes/beliefs aren't "vile" in any way. You know what's vile? Not letting people have any opinion they'd like to have, as long as it doesn't involve threats, because if we limit people's viewpoints and honest opinions, we don't give them a chance to realize if or when they're wrong in order to learn from it.

[Joshe]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This would be an insane gamble for little benefit.

You can't make this jump because you have no idea what the payoff is. I wouldn’t automatically assume he pissed off the wrong people. It’s possible this assassination was orchestrated for gains in influence or political power. 

Edited yesterday at 03:54 PM by Joshe

[AION]

This might be a J-job 👃🏾 

 

https://x.com/adamemedia/status/1966112864659443821?s=46&t=_b_ryXoCsOXMmPUcexEK7w

Edited yesterday at 02:50 PM by AION

[Princess Arabia]

14 minutes ago, oldhandle said:

Kirk believed:

Gay people should be stoned to death
Most people are scared when they see a black pilot flying a plane
Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband
No one should be allowed to retire
Leftists should not be allowed to move to red states
British Colonialism was what "made the world decent"
The guy who assaulted the Pelosi's should be bailed out
Religious freedom should be terminated
Multiple black politicians "stole white people's spots"
MLK Jr was "an awful person"
The Great Replacement Theory is reality
Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID
Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"
Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment
Women's natural place is under their husband's control
Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth control
George Floyd had it coming, the Jan 6th protestors didn't
The 1964 Civil Rights Act was a "huge mistake"
Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates
Madani winning in NY is a travesty because Muslims did 9/11
Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western Civilization
Palestine "doesn't exist" and those who support it are like the KKK
Said: "I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage."
Said: "Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised."

If that's not vile to you, there's no point in discussing this with you lmao.

So let's just keep shooting people's guts out because stupid people keep electing these fools into office and having them speak on public platforms, because they also represent their belief systems. Let's just go around bang banging up political fools because of what they stand for as if condoning shooting out his esophagus makes one more morally correct. Gftoh. Kirk believed? How about you posting this shit and voicing your opposition before this happened. No, it's not about what he believed for you, it's about thanking some random sharp shooter for doing a job that you were too coward to do yourself because it's obvious your mentality is no different from a killer's.

[hundreth]

Not surprised to see a thread about Charlie Kirk being shot in Chicago, become 50% about Israel / Jews. 

[Twentyfirst]

4 hours ago, Scholar said:

Nobody is innocent. We live in a society in which there is a subgroup of individuals which is treated as objects, raped, murdered and enslaved by the billions. Even the most progressive individuals not only support but participate directly in that objectification through consuming the tortured corpses of those individuals. Basically nobody is protesting it, everyone is making excuses for it while only giving importance to moral issues that relate to their own ingroup (humans).

You should be very careful with your condemnations. There are individuals who, rightfully, view you and every one of your progressive friends as genocidal supremacist barbarians who justify, participate, downplay and do nothing about  the greatest moral atrocity in the history of the planet.

To the animals, all of you are nazis, genocidal murderers, propagandists, pedophiles (animals are child like beings who are sexually exploited by the billions every year) slave-owners, cannibalists.

If you are going to play the moral crusade olympics, I can guarantee that you will not find yourself on top of it. If violence against the likes of Kirk is justified, it is justified against you and 99% of progressives, even those who pay lip service to this issue, and especially those that talk all day about human genocides while turning a blind eye to the the animal holocaust.

 

Ignorance and selfishness exists in all of us, to a far greater degree than you can imagine. Your ignorance of that fact renders you no different from the likes of Kirk. A sense of false moral superiority fueled by irrational moral outrage rather than an effort to improve the world and bring light where darkness has previously been. You are morally depraved, it's part of the human condition. The more you deny it and frame yourself as superior to others, the more evil you are.

 

That's where you are wrong. I am the complete opposite of a "progressive". Whatever the hell that even means

Progressing towards what?

If anything I am just anti western and I have no doubt that it's the correct position to take in the past present and future tense

[carterfelder]

How immature and pathetic is it to be okay with someone being shot and killed just because they had beliefs you disagreed with?

Everyone has the right to think for themselves, and everyone should be encouraged to share their honest beliefs and opinions without having their life threatened or taken away for it. If you want others to believe in what you believe, you need to communicate with those who disagree with you, not celebrate or say "I don't care about" the death of an influencer who shared beliefs you disagree with.

Edited yesterday at 03:01 PM by carterfelder

[Twentyfirst]

26 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

OK. Go killers, go. Keep 'em coming. Shoot 'em up. Take out their ribs and guts. What are we waiting for. Let's start with Kirk's babies for retaliation. Maybe go rape his wife while we're at it.

Just because he lives in America does not mean he is safe from a war across the ocean that HE involved himself in

We don't even know if thats the reason. But how can you feel bad for him dying when he literally wanted as many people killed as possible just because they refuse to be dominated by Israel?

What kind of husband and father supports a genocide of other families? Shouldn't he be going to picnics and getting ice cream with his family? It's dark what he did with his time away from his family 

[carterfelder]

2 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Just because he lives in America does not mean he is safe from a war across the ocean that HE involved himself in

We don't even know if thats the reason. But how can you feel bad for him dying when he literally wanted as many people killed as possible just because they refuse to be dominated by Israel?

What kind of husband and father supports a genocide of other families? Shouldn't he be going to picnics and getting ice cream with his family? It's dark what he did with his time away from his family 

I think not being able to condemn Hamas is just as disgusting, but I'm not going to celebrate or express no remorse for someone who died and never caused physical harm to anyone else, and who had a family and loved ones.