Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Scholar]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

But egging them on to fight definitely makes it worse.

It doesn't matter, people's identities are hijacked. Even the most rational and conscious of us struggle to not be swept away by it. Once fundamental social constructs get eroded, those that relate to civility especially, it might not be possible to regain them in this environment.

https://www.theverge.com/2017/12/11/16761016/former-facebook-exec-ripping-apart-society

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Palihapitiya’s criticisms were aimed not only at Facebook, but the wider online ecosystem. “The short-term, dopamine-driven feedback loops we’ve created are destroying how society works,” he said, referring to online interactions driven by “hearts, likes, thumbs-up.” “No civil discourse, no cooperation; misinformation, mistruth. And it’s not an American problem — this is not about Russians ads. This is a global problem.”

 

They have been warning us for more than a decade that this would happen, they know exactly why it is happening. Back then it wasn't even half as bad as it is now. And beyond this, you have bad faith state actors that maliciously stoke the flames. It's been only a decade of this, really. Now you have entire generations raised on it, we have simply no idea what this will do to people.

You see politics everywhere now. Casual podcasters, gaming channels, everyone is driven to the lowest consciousness drivel there is. 

[Terell Kirby]

Always enjoy Vlad's perspective:

 

[Frylock]

5 minutes ago, Joshe said:

True, but we're talking about millions of enraged and angered people who think everyone not in their cult is the enemy. This comes on top of Elon Musk's entire social media platform enraging millions of white people about black on white crime, which is already powerful in itself, and now this happens. There will be something serious that comes from it. Possibly hundreds or thousands of acts of violence, most of which we won't hear about, and will probably lead to very serious, larger acts of violence in the months or even years to come. 

We've already been seeing multiple acts of political violence from the right, and that's going to amp up even more. 

 

Yeah I can't deny that we are in a soft civil war. It's just astounding to me, I suppose. But fortunately, most Americans aren't going to be causing any violence. It's the radicalized that will. But if they're weak minded enough to get radicalized, then they never had a strong foundation and have just been floating through life. Something untruthful and toxic would grab ahold of them one way or another. They're using the political discourse and chaos that has become normalized under Trump as an opportunity to lash out. Opportunists, they are.

[BlessedLion]

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Edited 3 hours ago by BlessedLion

[Terell Kirby]

Trump is already propagandizing the public, blames radical left in his address:

This will certainly be used as cannon fodder to go after the political enemies of MAGA !

[Ulax]

10 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Always enjoy Vlad's perspective:

 

I agree with Vexler. This moment is not a time for buts re political violence. Instead it’s a time to denounce political violence. 

[Ulax]

3 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

I just saw that he was super Pro Israel. My sympathy is gone if supported Israel’s genocide and the murder of children I couldn’t give less of a fuck about him getting popped

Perhaps care about the implications for democracy in America 

[ExploringReality]

You guys what are we really talking about. When we say the dems and the conserves, are we talking about a specific group of people in political positions of power or are we talking regular everyday folks? And does a civil war mean regular folks arguing and fighting with each other? Cuz I can already sense and observe tension and conflict arising within regular people and their families coworkers and stuff it's like a split between two kinds of people.

[BlessedLion]

3 minutes ago, Ulax said:

Perhaps care about the implications for democracy in America 

I’m upset that someone got killed over using their right to free speech. But also, their free speech brainwashed people into thinking a genocide was justified 

[ExploringReality]

11 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

I just saw that he was super Pro Israel. My sympathy is gone if supported Israel’s genocide and the murder of children I couldn’t give less of a fuck about him getting popped

Haha, yo that's raw and real right there, no doubt. 💯

Edited yesterday at 02:07 AM by ExploringReality

[BlessedLion]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Shameful.

Owen has really lost the plot. That's what pickup ideology does to the mind.

Owen a fucking nutcase. I saw a podcast where he ranted about Ayahuasca demons and spirits. Pick up rarely ends well. His Apprentice Julien is a complete psycho with a messiah complex, they pair are slimy af 

[BlessedLion]

5 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

Haha, yo that's raw and real right there, no doubt. 💯

🔥🔥🔥

[MightyMind]

the "shooter" is not the shooter. examine all the footage coming out which includes interviews of people there. this is not some random leftist or disgruntled person

[Joshe]

15 minutes ago, BlessedLion said:

My sympathy is gone if supported Israel’s genocide and the murder of children

Not only did he support it, he showed countless others the way to support it. And that's just the tippy top of the iceberg of what Kirk has done. Just look at the crowd that showed up to that event. And he did that all day everyday. You'd have a hard time arguing today's event isn't a net positive.

[Pox]

Smoking on that kirk pack tonight🚬🚬🚬

[Willie]

33 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Always enjoy Vlad's perspective:

 

The fact that he passes muster for assassination rather than murder is tragic. 

[ExploringReality]

Just now, Pox said:

Smoking on that kirk pack tonight🚬🚬🚬

That grape gas ⛽ 

[Twentyfirst]

3 hours ago, PenguinPablo said:

@Something Funny No matter what a PoS someone is, political violence cannot be condoned. 

It will just make things more unstable and chaotic for everyone.

 

@Twentyfirst Yes, it is fine to have views. But making your life and identity around that is a bad game to play. Better to focus on other things. And respect others even if you disagree with things. Turning everything into a battle is not productive. 

To be fair though. Charlie was politically violent. Telling Netanyahu that he has every right to make little kids explode because he "felt the touch of Jesus" is not just some guy with a microphone. It's assisting in the organizing of mass genocide. Nobody you see on the TV is gonna be enlightened so what connection would any of us have with any of these people. Different worlds and ways of seeing things  

[Twentyfirst]

This is what Netanyahu tweeted 

"Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking truth and defending freedom. A lion-hearted friend of Israel, he fought the lies and stood tall for Judeo-Christian civilization. I spoke to him only two weeks ago and invited him to Israel. Sadly, that visit will not take place. We lost an incredible human being. His boundless pride in America and his valiant belief in free speech will leave a lasting impact. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk"

So obviously they were friends and would eat dinner together and talk about how they would steal more land and how any Palestinian who fights back is a terrorist and any Palestinian who refuses to leave the land should just starve to death

He isn't so innocent. It's like those 20 year old Israeli girls who got kidnapped. Your initial reaction is to feel really bad as if an injustice has been done. But really these young dancing women who just want to live their lives and have fun are actually ruthless IDF military baby killers with no regard for life or emotion 

Anyone attached to Israel has deep rooted problems that you can't even believe and the implications are far reaching. They could be pedophiles, mass murderers, thieves, propagandists, or all of the above. You just don't know 

Edited yesterday at 02:47 AM by Twentyfirst

[Twentyfirst]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This event is extremely problematic. It's going to radicalize the right so much.

Same with Iryna Zarutska death which is revenge for George Floyds aftermath