Conservative activist, Charlie Kirk, has been shot and killed at University

[Recursoinominado]

3 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Trump confirms Charlie Kirk dead on Truth Social:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c206zm81z4gt?post=asset%3A7e2f698a-fcc0-41b0-84ac-b7e01c1d6d56#post

Damn...

[Terell Kirby]

8 minutes ago, kray said:

Yep, it’s time to delete all social media (X and twitter especially) if you don’t want to inundate your head with brainless political slop. I think it’s time we all just take a break from the internet and touch grass.

Seems like the equivalent of putting your head in the sand.

Truth is we are in a very tumultuous situation in our current political environment. We are in the beginning phases of the erosion of American democratic values. Charlie Kirk being shot and killed is a bi-product.

Sad and unfortunate, but it's the reality nonetheless.

Edited Wednesday at 09:03 PM by Terell Kirby

[Leo Gura]

21 minutes ago, mateogon said:

but the whole spectrum has shifted left, so current left is rather far left.

No, this is false if you know political science. There are no far left parties in America.

Americans who think Dems or progressives are far left have no understanding of political science or global political history. They are just consuming right wing news.

No far left party has ever held office in America.

Edited Wednesday at 09:02 PM by Leo Gura

[kray]

4 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Seems like the equivalent of putting you head in the sand.

Truth is we are in a very tumultuous situation in our current political environment. We are in the beginning phases of the erosion of American democratic values. Charlie Kirk being shot and killed is a bi-product.

Sad and unfortunate, but it's the reality nonetheless.

That’s true, but I was saying from a more spiritual perspective. All politics is just a collective imagination. Truth is now, this second in the present. I think collectively if all people followed this truth, humanity has a chance to improve radically.

[Something Funny]

Do you people actually feel sad for him or are you just trying to act "spiritual"? 

[Terell Kirby]

1 minute ago, kray said:

All politics is just a collective imagination. Truth is now, this second in the present. I think collectively if all people followed this truth, humanity has a chance to improve radically.

Sounds pleasant- but when fascist come knocking at your ready to take you to the gas chambers, its a different story.

Not saying that will happen, but you get my point

[carterfelder]

The man in the video I mentioned isn't the shooter but being investigated. The shooter is still at large.

[Leo Gura]

Charlie Kirk was a vile propagandist. But even so, killing him is not right. This is bad for democracy.

Edited yesterday at 01:46 AM by Leo Gura

[Husseinisdoingfine]

The left in America on the political spectrum are center-left to left, but definitely not far left.

Democratic Socialists & Social Democrats != Marxist-Leninists & revolutionaries.

[Flowerfaeiry]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Do you people actually feel sad for him or are you just trying to act "spiritual"? 

I legit broke down in tears and am currently processing. He was a big figure for a long time. 

[hoodrow trillson]

 

[Something Funny]

2 minutes ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

I legit broke down in tears and am currently processing. He was a big figure for a long time. 

Why did he mean so much too you?

[Something Funny]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Charlie Kirk was a vile fascist propagandist. But even so, killing him is not right. This is bad for democracy.

Am I wrong to think that it's bad for democracy like chemotherapy is bad for health. 

[Flowerfaeiry]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Why did he mean so much too you?

I remember years and years ago, watching his stuff and being interested that he was having the kinds of conversations he did and the way he did it. Challenging certain thoughts and it really got me thinking so he was a pretty big figure for me. 
 

Again, I don’t agree with a lot of the stuff he said or how he said it, especially, but it’s still a big deal to lose him. 

 

[DocWatts]

 

4 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

The left in America on the political spectrum are center-left to left, but definitely not far left.

Democratic Socialists & Social Democrats != Marxist-Leninists & revolutionaries.

America has a conservative party that's fully embraced fascism (The Republicans) and a centrist party with a center-left wing (The Democrats).

 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Am I wrong to think that it's bad for democracy like chemotherapy is bad for health. 

Killing him does nothing to reduce fascism. The opposite I would say. It makes him a martyr. This empowers the far right by making them feel like they stand for something noble.

Edited Wednesday at 09:17 PM by Leo Gura

[ExploringReality]

@Leo Gura

He had some pretty gnarly debates with University students, I'm sure it sparked rage, a lot of heated back and forth. I never liked his straw man positions, but sucks that this happened and also the political and American backlash that will happen. What are your thoughts on him overall?

[Hojo]

@Terell KirbyWhy is the president announcing the death of someone. He flatlined and they said call Donald T rump? Very strange.

Edited Wednesday at 09:22 PM by Hojo

[Something Funny]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Killing him does nothing to reduce fascism. The opposite I would say. It makes him a martyr.

I guess I was hoping that it would show people like him, and Trump, and Putin, and all the other pieces of ... drunk on power, that they are not untouchable, and that they are not beyond suffering the consequences of their actions.

But it's probably wishful thinking.

[nerdspeak]

Lenin opposed assassinations and terrorism because it does not get you any closer to power and provokes repression by the state.