People are Way Worse than You Think

[SQAAD]

One of the most shocking and disturbing realizations that i've had the last 11 months ,is that people are way worse, than i ever dreamed of..

This is an extremely ugly Truth, that you find out when you have to deal with multiple people who have nothing to gain from you.

If you are a hot woman in yout 20s or a privileged man in a good part of the world, you might still be under the illusion of how great everyone is.

This is a lie. People are not nice. They are nice when it serves their survival agenda, when they have something to gain, and when they feel comfortable.

How can this world be a good place when everyone cares only about himself and nothing else?

How can this be a good place when 99.9% of your actions stem from pure selfishness.

People act nice when they are eating a good meal or have a nice drug in their system, but once that drug or food wears off from their system, they suddenly are not so nice.

People who have not meditated or done any psychological work, are dangerous to themselves and everybody around them.

This explains why things are so bad on this planet. Noone talks about this. Because it's too direct and too ugly.

This is chat gpt's take on this:

Here are some concrete and relatable examples that reflect the sentiments and themes in the text you provided:

1. "People are only nice when they have something to gain"

Example:
A coworker who always acted friendly suddenly turns cold after you get demoted or lose influence in the office. When you had a high status, they complimented you, invited you to events, and seemed supportive. Once you no longer had anything to offer, they stopped responding to messages or acknowledging you at work.

2. "People who have nothing to gain from you treat you poorly"

Example:
When you're homeless or look poor, people avoid eye contact, ignore you when you ask for help, or even act hostile. But if you're well-dressed and driving a nice car, those same people might treat you with respect or even admiration.

3. "People act nice only when they're comfortable"

Example:
Someone might be very kind and patient while they're well-fed and rested. But the same person, after a long day at work without food or sleep, becomes irritable, rude, and even verbally abusive to others. Their “kindness” was just a product of comfort — not true compassion.

4. "People don’t care unless it affects them personally"

Example:
Someone might say they care about the environment or poverty but still buy fast fashion or waste food. Unless their lifestyle is directly affected, they won’t make sacrifices — even when they know others suffer because of their choices.

5. "People who haven’t done inner work are dangerous"

Example:
A person with unresolved trauma might lash out at others, sabotage relationships, or become controlling — without even realizing it. Because they haven’t examined their mind, they blame others for their problems, creating cycles of emotional or even physical harm.

6. "Most actions are rooted in selfishness"

Example:
Even charity can be selfish: a person might donate to get praise, feel superior, or soothe their own guilt — not because they genuinely care about others. The core motivation is often still about themselves, not the person in need.

These examples don’t mean that everyone is bad or incapable of real kindness — but they illustrate a darker side of human nature that’s often denied or hidden under social norms. The text expresses the painful clarity that comes when illusions are stripped away — especially in situations like homelessness, poverty, or powerlessness, where people’s true character is exposed.

Edited Thursday at 10:33 AM by SQAAD

[Someone here]

Glad you get this . I call this awakening to the fact that God is Money .

[Aaron p]

1 hour ago, SQAAD said:

People who have not meditated or done any psychological work, are dangerous to themselves and everybody around them.

Which constitutes the majority of society. 

Just don't go near people who are dangerous / selfish / un-empathetic. Don't go anywhere near them, don't talk to them, don't give them anything you expect a return on unless you have a method to enforce an agreement. This is a big insight. There are so many degenerate scum bags in the world and they try to infect good people with their own degeneracy and a lot of the time they succeed.

(Side note, try not to let this insight destroy your hope in humanity there are many people who have significantly less selfishness who require way more offence to try destroy you. Buddhists are decent, just go to a Buddhist center for friends and associates.)

Bonus insight: people who exercise radical self reflection and self honesty are safer. 

Second bonus insight: seriously beware of "nice" people. Niceness does not constitute safety. Everyone has darkness, if someone doesn't hide their darkness, they are at least honest they work with their shadow and control it. Ultimately there's no formula to identify safe Vs unsafe people, you have to become skilled at discerning which are safe and which are not.

Look how nice this little guy is

Nearly makes you Wana go give him a hug in the water  how cute

Edited Thursday at 11:38 AM by Aaron p

[Breakingthewall]

Depending. If you realize the scope of cause-and-effect relationships, your ethics become absolutely solid, since you're aware that, given the structure of reality, any unaligned action is stupid. It's like shooting yourself in the foot. It's selfish from some perspective, but selfless in the sense that this concrete self is not the center, this is a limited perspective, not wrong, just limited. Almost everyone operates from this limited perspective, they they act accordingly it. It's not that they are "bad", it's that they act accordingly their perspective, like anyone 

[Salvijus]

True understanding and insight leads to compassion. When you see through everything, you forgive everything because it just is what it is. And now you can develop a compassionate view towards it that promotes upliftment rather than disparagement. 

Edited Thursday at 11:56 AM by Salvijus

[Leo Gura]

[UnbornTao]

And all of us are included in "people." 

 

At the same time, they can be way better than you think.

Edited Thursday at 12:38 PM by UnbornTao

[PurpleTree]

I agree that people act selfish, egotistical 

But in a way they’re also innocent because there isn’t really free will.

„forgive them, they know not what they do“

[Extreme Z7]

3 hours ago, SQAAD said:

This is chat gpt's take on this:\

Ngl, stopped reading at this point.

It was good up to that point. . . but no, appreciate the honesty, though.

[gettoefl]

You either see others as strangers or siblings.

Which means at any moment, you are in the former case giving in order to take

or in the latter case giving in order to receive since you and I are one blood.

People will only change when you change.

See heaven or hell.

Your choice.

Let's meditate a bit longer brother.

[PurpleTree]

It’s interesting to see in yourself that you aren’t that „good“ 

that there’s a lot of copium and survival mechanisms going on.

always trying to gain or profit somehow.

[Aaron p]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

It’s interesting to see in yourself that you aren’t that „good“ 

that there’s a lot of copium and survival mechanisms going on.

always trying to gain or profit somehow.

Not even Jesus claimed to be good. (Mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone,). There's a bit of depth to this statement of his, my interpretation is that this is him pointing to the fact that he is God and that "good" is a word that not a lot of people understand.

Perfection has little to do with subjective human mortality that comes from mental judgements. Becoming immortal might make you inadvertently behave more lovingly, but this behavioural adjustment is only a byproduct.. a secondary matter. This is where religion falls, it sees holy living as a primary matter. (It also dictates what qualifies as "holy living"...). This isint to say it's cool to be a complete devil, but it's just the rigidity of religious and social morality that causes confusion. Consciousness is far more natural and cultivates personal transformation rather than moral information. (Consciousness reveals to the mind that hurting others toxifies itself, like a pipe that has acid flowing through it...it's going to eventually affect the pipe itself).

 

Fuck, Jesus was supposed to have walked into a Jewish temple before he was executed and started trashing the place and assaulting people John 2:13-16.

This is of course assuming that this portion of Christian scripture actually happened at all. But the point stands.

 

I've just realised I'm going in a completely different direction to the OP, oops.

Edited Thursday at 06:26 PM by Aaron p

[Hojo]

So take them as a joke. This is a good insight to stop people pleasing no one is trying to please you they are all trying to please themselves. If someone is trying to please themselves off you then its logical that you can please yourself off them and not feel bad. You know this as a logical fact. Society tricks you into thinking or trying to not be a devil. Thats how it works here. You have the same thing built into you that everyone else has. You get upset when you trying to please yourself off other people dosent work thats why you are so angry.

Its not a sad disgusting truth its liberating.

Edited Thursday at 08:19 PM by Hojo

[ExploringReality]

It's self deception at its core. Selfishness. It's within us all, but those of us that are introspective, self reflective and willing to do Shadow work, we can starkly see it in others, but especially within ourselves. The most dangerous form of illusion is a shadow cult of people that wear dark fake masks but preach light and truth.

Like a criminal wearing a robe of purity and righteousness 

[Princess Arabia]

Short story:

The other day I was out and about. I was walking on a crowded tourist spot and I saw a man feeding pigeons. A couple of the pigeons were perching on his arm and eating out of his hand. It was a cool sight to see, so I stopped and chatted with him a bit. 

He said he did it often and was his therapy. I then put my hand out and not one pigeon landed on it. As soon as he put some bird food on my hand and I stretched my hand out, the pigeons were all over me. Three landed on my hand right away and started eating, then two more. I had like 5 pigeons perched on my hand eating in the space of 5 secs. I stretched my hand out again with no food and no pigeons landed. More food, and here they came again. True Story. Just happened like 4-5 days ago.

These are birds and they wanted nothing to do with me without me giving them something. I walked the same spot again yesterday and saw some pigeons on the ground where a woman was throwing peanuts and feeding the squirrels. Not a single pigeon recognized me or acknowledged me and couldn't care less who I was after feeding them 4 days ago. 

I'm also sure if I never fed my cat again, EVER, she would run away and not come back. 

Get over it. A sperm leeches off of an egg to make an embryo. Ice needs water to form, rain depends on the clouds and you leech off of air to breathe. It's the personal relationship you have with yourself and thinking you're a someone that creates this dynamic in you.

I write about this in my journal all the time but I bet you guys think it's just fluff fluff if you read it. It's the tragedy of the human race and I'm in the mix of it all too, but there's an opening here that sees through the human dilemma and can speak about it when it recognizes it in someone else and this is how we suffer and everyone here is going to confirm what you've said and cheer you on and agree people are assholes and worse than we think and probably give their side of the story and now the personal self seems to get it's confirmation biases through other and it continues this into other aspects of its no life and stays delusional. Welcome. Its a dis-ease of the human race. Animals couldn't care less about what you're saying here, it's just selfish humans who thinks the world revolves around them and sadly it does. That's the tragedy.

 

 

Edited Thursday at 11:52 PM by Princess Arabia

[Thought Art]

There are kind people though. 

But, yeah, sadly many of my bubbles have been broken. There are a lot of of ignorant and selfish people out there. Choose your job wisely.

Also, be careful of your framing.

The goal is to see the beauty in reality, and to love it regardless. That is strength. Complain while you have to, but then grow stronger, more loving and stand tall. Give, and be loving despite the shit.

"A Sperm leeches off an egg" is not a true or proper framing. A sperm fertilizes and nourishes an egg. Don't let the darkness fester in areas it doesn't.

Can you see the selfishness of others and still love them? Can you see human nature and still love them? 

Instead of craving and needing love from others, can you be loving?

There are kind people out there. They really are everywhere too.

This is the benefit of doing personal development, studying psychology, going through challenging situations and thickening your skin. Don't become bitter though. Learn to love. Be strong enough to love.

Edited Friday at 12:03 AM by Thought Art

[Hojo]

@ExploringRealityDoing shadow work is coming to terms with the fact that you have it. Truth is you have it. Trying to be some angelic being is darkness. Shadow work is just to stop demonizing yourself.

Edited Friday at 03:00 AM by Hojo

[hoodrow trillson]

I’ve also noticed this as the years go by… and I’m more of an optimist type of personality!  

Not even on a “everybody is fucked up” level but more on a personal level where some people I know have made some morally wrong and questionable decisions that hurt others.  Deplorable even.  BUT I cannot judge, as a judgmental tongue can come bite you in the ass later with irony.

It really made me realize all this shit we do and especially with meditation — has made me a bit more “grounded”.  Like I can be like,  “Wow that’s fucked up, I’m out of here.” or “Hmm, this person seems unstable I should get the fuck outta here”. Could I have done the same 10 years ago without me slowly chipping away at conscious work?  I don’t know but I don’t think so.  I’m much less reactive. 

I’m an extrovert so I’ve also met some beautiful and kind beings that are a blast to be around.  So it balances out anecdotally for me.  Again, as I’m aging some darkness is coming out in some people and I’ve been just going through the motions with it.

[ExploringReality]

2 hours ago, Hojo said:

@ExploringReality Trying to be some angelic being is darkness. Shadow work is just to stop demonizing yourself.

That doesn't tie into what I wrote above. Reread what I wrote, your point is clarified in the first two sentences. I'm not debating shadow work with you. Thank you 

[PurpleTree]

17 hours ago, Aaron p said:

Fuck, Jesus was supposed to have walked into a Jewish temple before he was executed and started trashing the place and assaulting people John 2:13-16.

Oh dear that’s antisemitic though.