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[Leo Gura]

The chemical is a jar of farts that you open and huff.

[UnbornTao]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

The chemical is a jar of farts that you open and huff.

Should have said that sooner. 

[aurum]

4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Ask: What is an effect? What is a practice? And what is awakening if not an effect, perception, experience, insight, change of state, good idea, or feeling?

I don't see how this relates to the question.

Awakening is a state of consciousness. Practice is anything you do that is aimed at creating that state. We call those specific things practices, because somethings turn out to be more effective than others for awakening.

Sticking your thumb up your butt is not effective at creating the awakened state. This is empirical. Therefore, we don't teach sticking your thumb up your butt for awakening.

What is empirically useful for awakening: meditation, psychedelics, certain kinds of yoga, self-inquiry, etc.

So the question is, do you deny the empiricism of how these practices generate awakening?

You can argue "it's all Consciousness", and that's true. But it's also true that different practices have different levels of effectiveness for awakening within Consciousness.

Psychedelics happen to be a particularly potent dream tool. 

[Eskilon]

58 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The chemical is a jar of farts that you open and huff.

I imagine a closed room filled with the most potent fart known to man.

Edited 2 hours ago by Eskilon

[Leo Gura]

The jar is like opening the Ark from Raiders of the Lost Ark