Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Jayson G]

@Leo Gura one big thing I've been trying to understand is if its true that "USA needs to win the AI development war so as not to be dominated by China." Eric Schmidt for example is big on this. Sometimes I can see merit to this. Other times, I question whether I have some bias here or some blind spot or some truth I'm missing.

From one angle the manhattan project was just that. Us winning led partly to hitler being stopped, if I understand correctly. 

To add to that Trump, even though I know how incredibly corrupt he is, is activating this AI development largely. So is he doing good here? or is this whole thing grounded in falsehood. 

I don't even know how to derive at the truth here. 

It could also just be a way for America to get more power, maybe its just Eric's biased towards being identified with the US military. USA is always on a drive to get more and more power. It could just be that.

It could be that these powerful people use some truth to support a largely false argument, to weaponize some truth, or it could actually be true, which maybe I'll never know without all the facts. 

Edited 14 hours ago by Jayson G

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

From one angle the manhattan project was just that. Us winning led partly to hitler being stopped, if I understand correctly. 

Nukes did not help stop Hitler in any way.

What stopped Hitler was millions of Russian bodies. My grandparents stopped Hitler.

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So is he doing good here? or is this whole thing grounded in falsehood

Let's see how you feel about that when the AI market bubble implodes and half your savings is wiped out overnight. And the Fed prints so much money to backstop the implosion that a carton of eggs costs $20.

That's where we are headed fast.

Edited 14 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Jayson G]

@Leo Gura Well its a good thing I don't eat eggs lol 

But nah I hope you're wrong. Though now feels similar to the dotcom hype to crash. 

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura Well its a good thing I don't eat eggs lol 

You better not eat anything.

Edited 11 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Alexop]

12 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

In response to Leo' pop quiz:

 

Disgusting! These relativetards are harming relationships and people's mental health a lot. They just ignore every evidence that counter their ideology. But yea, she needs to look into the limitations of modernism also.

A therapist's job is to show you the truth in a non-traumatizing way not only to confirm your delusions.

Edited 9 hours ago by Alexop

[Lyubov]

AGI isn’t possible until there is a serious jump in overall development and consciousness with the tech bros and society as a whole to have the infrastructure to sustainably support that. It’s like trying to fly to the stars in mediaeval Europe. Engineers made all these strange flying contraptions and machines and promised a lot but they had fundamental misunderstandings underlying them and a massive gap in understanding to truly transcending into a reality where it was actually possible to fly. That takes a lot of time, trial and error and development. Eventually it  came with further advancements. Right now we are being shown the weird flying contraptions and of course they have no problems lying and propping them up with strings to make it appear as if they are flying. 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Lyubov

[Elliott]

These grifters will need to go to jail, Huang, Altman, Nadella, Ellison. This is like reverse 2008, we're actively choosing the crash..... Idiocracy

[Clarence]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't get it.

Where is the change??

The width of the blog has also changed for me since I got a new phone. It's really annoying because it was much easier to read before, and I can't seem to find a solution. Here's the difference in display, old vs new:

[Nemra]

I noticed that change before Leo started to post again. But the website overall isn't mobile-friendly, so I didn't bother to say it.

Edited 5 hours ago by Nemra

[Butters]

AI blog post with the Newport video was fantastic! 

I think you should make an AI video next. It could be of tremendous help to people who work with AI on a daily basis. So it wouldn't just be relevant to AI hype in the media but to our daily lives and communication with it. 

Every day I talk to ChatGPT, for my business and personal. Even though I understand what the LLM is, I do get mad at it sometimes. Isn't that curious? 

[Butters]

5 hours ago, Alexop said:

A therapist's job is to show you the truth in a non-traumatizing way not only to confirm your delusions.

Isn't 99% of therapists basically just reframinig you into their frame? 

[Human Mint]

14 minutes ago, Butters said:

A therapist's job is to show you the truth in a non-traumatizing way not only to confirm your delusions.

That could be one approach. But it also can be to help you change how you reframe things. Therapy can help you change thinking patterns to more convenient ones. Or at least that would be one form of good therapy, I doubt there are therapist good enough to really do that.

Edited 4 hours ago by Human Mint

[integral]

The blog post on corruption in the medical industry.

It was a example of corruption done wrong, the right way to be corrupt is in plain sight by setting easy benchmarks, for example that a control group will lose weight in the next 12 weeks versus a placebo control.

The point is the target is the lie.

You could drink bleach for 12 weeks and lose weight, what does that say about ozempic? (ignored long-term, ignored major gastrointestinal problems...)

[Alexop]

1 hour ago, Butters said:

Isn't 99% of therapists basically just reframinig you into their frame? 

Idk, i don't go to therapy. I was able to show the truth to myself. Maybe i will go if i get stuck. But it I will need a top therapist not a worthless slop one.

[Alexop]

50 minutes ago, Human Mint said:

That could be one approach. But it also can be to help you change how you reframe things. Therapy can help you change thinking patterns to more convenient ones. Or at least that would be one form of good therapy, I doubt there are therapist good enough to really do that.

Yes, a way of showing you what you can't see.

[Vali2003]

Here’s what I think about the critique of postmodernism:

 

It’s from a higher perspective, not a lower. But I was uncertain for quite a while. Honestly, just because, at first impression, she seemed to me like a republican and I judged her/conformed with my liberal bias. 

Why the critique is from a higher perspective:

• She explained post-modernism fairly  I think and understood it well — although she didn’t go into too much detail about it so it’s hard to know what exactly she thinks about it. 
• She didn’t demonize post-modernism.
• She understood an important flaw of post-modernism: That it imposes its own “hierarchy” upon different fields although that should be what post-modernism tries to stop.
• She’s right that assumptions like gender and sex being different shouldn’t be taken for granted.
• She’s right about objective findings STILL BEING IMPORTANT AND VALID. The findings don’t just change because the narrative did. Old, fundamental research is important.
• She’s right that ideology infected the field, that’s it’s extremely biased towards liberalism and that it demonizes conservatives — and that all this is horrible for the practice of psychology and creates worse outcomes for patients. 
• She’s also right that not all perspectives are equal. 
• She’s also right that empirical evidence is ABSOLUTELY necessary if psychology actually wants to be a serious and effective field. 
• Generally I think all of what she said about the field of psychology is correct. Although I’m not an expert in psychology so I don’t know. 
• The final reason for why I think it’s a critique from a higher perspective is that she doesn’t disregard all post modernist premises — like it being important to decrease systemic racism. She simply questions the effectiveness of methods we use to “fight” these things.

At the beginning I thought she was very creepy and republican, at the end I realized that it was just my stage green acting up. 
 

Some points I’d add after reading other comments: 

• She definitely gives stage orange vibes.
• She probably doesn’t see any validity in postmodernism which would point to a lower perspective. Generally, she doesn’t try to really integrate post modernism into her worldview which, again, would point to a lower perspective. 

I correct my answer: It’s from a lower perspective, but I do think a lot of the criticisms she brings up are valid. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Vali2003

[UnbornTao]

3 hours ago, Clarence said:

The width of the blog has also changed for me since I got a new phone. It's really annoying because it was much easier to read before, and I can't seem to find a solution. Here's the difference in display, old vs new:

@Clarence @Nemra @LoneWonderer

18 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't get it.

Where is the change??

 

[LifeEnjoyer]

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