Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[JTL]

On 17.6.2025 at 11:38 PM, Leo Gura said:

Ralston got into martial arts because he was bullied and insecure.

He was conscious enough to see that and he retired from fighting pretty young.

@Leo Gura but, would you say that a bully victim or a marginalized community standing up for themself e.g selfdefense. or in more general terms standing up to bully is uncounscious? just want to know. For context watched a great documentary series https://www.channel4.com/programmes/defiance-fighting-the-far-right it free to watch  

Edited June 24, 2025 by JTL

[Puer Aeternus]

1 hour ago, JTL said:

but, would you say that a bully victim or a marginalized community standing up for themself e.g selfdefense. or in more general terms standing up to bully is uncounscious? just want to know. 

Perhaps it's unconscious but it's the more productive action.

You won't become conscious if people are stepping all over you, exploiting you, playing with your emotions. Self-defense can be necessary for securing boundaries. Then you can transcend it more later.

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, JTL said:

or in more general terms standing up to bully is uncounscious?

No, that is valid. Physical security is valid.

The issue is that this victim complex never gets resolved but turns into a lifetime insecurity and fetish for proving ones manhood. That's the unconscious bit. This drive to prove you got a big swinging dick. That's what I see in a lot of UFC fans. It goes way beyond physical security into ego, overcompensation, and immature toxic masculinity.

Look at Conor McGregor. What do his antics have to do with physical security and standing up to bullies? He is the bully. And note, he is the most popular UFC fighter for that reason.

Edited June 24, 2025 by Leo Gura

[CARDOZZO]

Be aware of illusions. 

Whatever they are. As Deleuze said:

 

[Leo Gura]

On 6/21/2025 at 8:47 AM, AION said:

Now if Leo is serious about truth he should put his book on the book list. It is called the value of others.

I will check out his book.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Is it this book?

[Oppositionless]

I don't think Leo is necessarily wrong in his critique of religion , but I do think there are some really sharp religious folk out there who understand God well. Enlightenment can happen at any level of spiral dynamics. Just because people like Rumi and old school Zen masters were at blue and religous, doesn't mean they don't understand God.

Edited June 25, 2025 by Oppositionless

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Oppositionless said:

Just because people like Rumi and Zen masters were at blue and religous

You're talking about mystics, not religion.

[Daniel Balan]

Hi Leo! Religious people notion of God is not the same as your notion of God! Religious people litteraly believe God is a bearded, wrathful old man that lives in the clouds, has a bearded son that died and revived himself, then levitated all the way to the same clouds where his father lives, and a pigeon that has has mystical powers! This is what God means for Christians, so allow me to correct your blog post, what I described here is human and pigeon worship, not God! This religion is a circus created to maximize survival and dominate over others who don't follow this cult! This has nothing to do with your notion of God!

Edited June 25, 2025 by Daniel Balan

[Nemra]

To say religious people got it right is too generous—they cannot understand that belief is not direct.

[Leo Gura]

41 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

Hi Leo! Religious people notion of God is not the same as your notion of God! Religious people litteraly believe God is a bearded, wrathful old man that lives in the clouds, has a bearded son that died and revived himself, then levitated all the way to the same clouds where his father lives, and a pigeon that has has mystical powers! This is what God means for Christians, so allow me to correct your blog post, what I described here is human and pigeon worship, not God! This religion is a circus created to maximize survival and dominate over others who don't follow this cult! This has nothing to do with your notion of God!

Be careful. You are getting stuck with these narrow lines of thinking.

You want to be more nuanced, less emotional, and less stereotypical with your thinking.

Not all religious people are so cartoonishly stupid.

And there is certainly a connection between the God of religion and the God of Awakening. These cannot be unrelated things since humans did not invent God.

Edited June 25, 2025 by Leo Gura

[samijiben]

Goddamn! Oh, how I appreciate the quality and class of that writing! I am going to SLOBBER THAT SHIT UP!

 

[LoneWonderer]

Day 1 Leo's Book comes out

[MuadDib]

"Science has a 400 year history of being wrong about everything" - me in 10th grade.

[JTL]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

No, that is valid. Physical security is valid.

The issue is that this victim complex never gets resolved but turns into a lifetime insecurity and fetish for proving ones manhood. That's the unconscious bit. This drive to prove you got a big swinging dick. That's what I see in a lot of UFC fans. It goes way beyond physical security into ego, overcompensation, and immature toxic masculinity.

Look at Conor McGregor. What do his antics have to do with physical security and standing up to bullies? He is the bully. And note, he is the most popular UFC fighter for that reason.

@Leo Gura thank you, for your explanation. BTW, just read your blog post! Will there be a audio version aswell?😁

[Leo Gura]

41 minutes ago, JTL said:

Will there be a audio version aswell?

Yes

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Promotional book tour - I am sure many actualizers and lurkers of the forums would attend, health allowing.

I am excited for you with the book, the process of creation in that way is beautiful.

Single-point focused, driving, creative force to swallow you up.

[Girzo]

Dear Leo, please make sure to hire a good editor who you will listen to when they suggest to cut a little on explications like "inifinty entails giraffes, hippos, crocodiles, space kangaroos, rats, antelopes..." Too much explication of things in the same category is really one of the biggest downsides of your delivery style.

[Davino]

Leo, I'm sure the book will be your best work so far.

Btw, I think I found a typo: "Sense-making is how you to figure out what to do when your science hits a roadblock." I believe that to is extra.

If you ever need feedback, I'd be honoured.

[Ulax]

I wonder what Leo will name the book.

”Rats in a labcoat” maybe lol. Or “Rat wars” hehe