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[AION]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

@Santiago Ram I don't think you will find any "truth of self-control". Just discipline yourself to follow your values. That's it. There's no magic trick. When you see a slice of pizza your tell yoursrelf NO. And you obey. Because it violates your values.

forbidden fruit is always tastier, that is why you never tell a bish or a kid "no", you just redirect the attention. And most of these guys who can't say no to a pizza are bishes. 

There are truths in human psychology, just like the 1 I told you. It requires a lot of contemplation to understand these principles.

Last helpful book I read on this topic is Whole Brain Child which can be applied to adults as well.

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[AION]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Broken people LOVE, LOVE, LOVE spirituality because they have no capacity for truth, lacking any kind of epistemic responsibility, which means they get to run wild with spiritual fantasies and use pleasant spiritual stories to rationalization and excuse away all their broken, toxic, unconscious behavior as something anointed by God.

Spirituality is the prefect excuse to avoid responsibility and not do any genuine work.

Why do the hard work to fix your brokenness and worldview when you can have faith in Jesus?

It is designed that way. The devil is the gate keeper of spirituality.

[Davino]

23 hours ago, AION said:

People who are not broken don’t wander into spirituality in the first place lol

People who have a broken ego want to get rid of it. That's understandable but a huge mistake; trying to deconstruct ego before you've properly built it and mature it... most of the times leaves you in an even more complex inner mess. 

[Eskilon]

Broken people should dip their toes in spirituality, but I wouldn't say get into it.

There's a big difference. And depends on the meaning of "spirituality" in the first place.

Many of the spiritual practices have huge benefits to the physiological and the psychological domain. Shouldn't broken people practice that?

Shouldn`t broken people practice meditation, yoga and even go to an Ayahyuasca ceremony?

I have met many and known many "broken people" who have greatly improved their lives with a milder version of spirituality.

But if we are talking about how spirituality is defined on this forum and pared with philosophical, psychedelics and epistemic work, then definitely that wouldn`t work that much and they will get scared and quit.

Hardcore spirituality is not for 99% of mankind. Not even for most forum users here -- who by they way love to talk that they are spiritual, but don`t even meditate daily and aren`t thinking nor willing to do a meditation retreat.

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[Puer Aeternus]

Hehehe plus sometimes the individuals have no choice. Drawn in like a moth to a flame.

Choo choo! Here comes the god train! Bouta RUN THROUGH your ego ready or not, trauma or not! 

You better buckle up for that dark night of the soul style suffering!

3 hours ago, Eskilon said:

Hardcore spirituality is not for 99% of mankind. Not even for most forum users here -- who by they way love to talk that they are spiritual, but don`t even meditate daily and aren`t thinking nor willing to do a meditation retreat.

Meditation tis' but a method

A sexy and potentially potent one

But just a method 

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[mmKay]

I'd rather be in a nightclub than at a maga rally or religious gathering lol

[AION]

4 hours ago, Davino said:

People who have a broken ego want to get rid of it. That's understandable but a huge mistake; trying to deconstruct ego before you've properly built it and mature it... most of the times leaves you in an even more complex inner mess. 

Spirituality is warfare. It is not Laa Laa land stuff. People who believe it is the latter are usually the people who are the most fucked up after their spiritual journey. It is about learning how to spiritually fight because you will need that when the ego dissolves, and order is needed to be created in the psychological mess. 

[Eskilon]

1 hour ago, Puer Aeternus said:

Meditation tis' but a method

A sexy and potentially potent one

But just a method 

For sure. Just saying that because there's a strong emphasis on psychedelics on this forum. It is easy to fool oneself thinking that pyschedelics are enough and you don't need to do the "natural" method -- you need both.

[Puer Aeternus]

2 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

For sure. Just saying that because there's a strong emphasis on psychedelics on this forum. It is easy to fool oneself thinking that pyschedelics are enough and you don't need to do the "natural" method -- you need both.

True true, tis a very fair take! 

[Puer Aeternus]

45 minutes ago, mmKay said:

I'd rather be in a nightclub than at a maga rally or religious gathering lol

Personally I'm going..

MAGA Rally>Nightclub>Religious Gathering

MAGA rally would be hoot n a holler. Let out some not PC devilish humor and laugh along with the attendees, maybe chant some fun brain rot, and listen to orange man perform his standup comedy routine. Just can't take any of it seriously or it ruins the fun. 

Nightclub just sounds boring. Oooooh let me dance with some strangers who are absolutely sloshed out of their minds while the DJ plays music at volume levels deserving of a war crime. Maybe if I had friends to go with, fortunately I don't.

Religious Gathering is just a no. Unless we are doing certain drugs or I get to preach the sermon. Then it would be #1, even better if I can start a cult.

 

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[Keryo Koffa]

1 hour ago, Puer Aeternus said:

Personally I'm going..

MAGA Rally>Nightclub>Religious Gathering

MAGA rally would be hoot n a holler. Let out some not PC devilish humor and laugh along with the attendees, maybe chant some fun brain rot, and listen to orange man perform his standup comedy routine. Just can't take any of it seriously or it ruins the fun. 

Nightclub just sounds boring. Oooooh let me dance with some strangers who are absolutely sloshed out of their minds while the DJ plays music at volume levels deserving of a war crime. Maybe if I had friends to go with, fortunately I don't.

Religious Gathering is just a no. Unless we are doing certain drugs or I get to preach the sermon. Then it would be #1, even better if I can start a cult.

What if we found a way to bridge all of these ?

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[Puer Aeternus]

37 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

What if we found a way to bridge all of these ?

What a beautiful thing that would be.. 

Imagine. They've converted the Berghain club in Germany to a mosque, but retained many nightclub design elements. They fly a delegation of Trump supporters out. And you're just in the middle of it all.

Flashing lights, a meaty MAGA man throwing it back and grinding on you to EDM augmented Quran verses performed in German. 

You might find God right there. One event would be enough to push humanity into fourth density consciousness. 

[Keryo Koffa]

@Puer Aeternus  It sure would be lit. I had something of an idea myself a while back, but it requires some consciousness shifts. (Infinite drinks, fractal dancefloors, synesthetic music, 4D portal sculptures, 6-MeO-DMT, transcendental dance-offs with aliens, sage stand-up comedy, non-dual competitions, solipsistic deprivation chambers, DMT art, zen riddle events, psychic awakenings, telepathy, 5th-density alchemy, AIs embodied, etc.)

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[Puer Aeternus]

16 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

@Puer Aeternus  It sure would be lit. I had something of an idea myself a while back, but it requires some consciousness shifts. (Infinite drinks, fractal dancefloors, synesthetic music, 4D portal sculptures, 6-MeO-DMT, transcendental dance-offs with aliens, sage stand-up comedy, non-dual competitions, solipsistic deprivation chambers, DMT art, zen riddle events, psychic awakenings, telepathy, 5th-density alchemy, AIs embodied, etc.)

I think you just earned yourself hosting privileges. 

Ya the average MAGA supporter may be a few stages below the consciousness of a typical Amazon delivery driver. So we may need a few quranic EDM hedonism sessions before we throw them into the deep end of appreciative finger snapping at zen slam poetry night and all the rest! 

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[Keryo Koffa]

24 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

I think you just earned yourself hosting privileges. 

Ya the average MAGA supporter may be a few stages below the consciousness a typical Amazon delivery driver so we may need a few quranic EDM hedonism sessions before we throw them into the deep end of appreciative finger snapping at zen slam poetry night and all the rest! 

We could link up all the areas and open up more spatial dimension with each SD stage jump to awaken into.
Then project it all into each person's aesthetic ego filter (like the Infinite Improbability Drive).
Basically perception would snap what's too alien into familiar form until open mindedness increases.
And increasing it and opening up new channels would be the main event!

[Rafael Thundercat]

4 hours ago, Puer Aeternus said:

Personally I'm going..

MAGA Rally>Nightclub>Religious Gathering

I will go to an ayahuasca ceremony, then go to Mórmon church share the experience from aya, impregnate some, then go to a Nigth club to celebrate. 

Then do the reverse 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

I like how Leo posted one of Alyssa Grenfell's videos. She's an ex-Mormon (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) who has written a book on how to leave the church and publishes videos extensively about Mormon bull****; the false prophesies of Joseph Smith, how Smith plagiarized other books to write the Book of Mormon, and in general their crazy beliefs.  

I've been getting into her videos, as well as the videos of another YouTuber, Ex JW Panda Tower.

[Puer Aeternus]

16 minutes ago, Keryo Koffa said:

We could link up all the areas and open up more spatial dimension with each SD stage jump to awaken into.
Then project it all into each person's aesthetic ego filter (like the Infinite Improbability Drive).
Basically perception would snap what's too alien into familiar form until open mindedness increases.
And increasing it and opening up new channels would be the main event!

Mhmm mhmm.

So basically you're trying to wake them up with a projector slideshow broadcast into their ego VR experience. 

Sounds absolutely brilliant. Just.. on the day of mass awakening, be sure to bring the CORRECT reality hard drive. Collective humanity doesn't need to see other the other weird ass shit you've been downloading.

[Keryo Koffa]

35 minutes ago, Puer Aeternus said:

Mhmm mhmm.

So basically you're trying to wake them up with a projector slideshow broadcast into their ego VR experience. 

Sounds absolutely brilliant. Just.. on the day of mass awakening, be sure to bring the CORRECT reality hard drive. Collective humanity doesn't need to see other the other weird ass shit you've been downloading.

Yeah, Rick and Morty just released an episode on destroying the easter eggs.

Shouldn't be difficult fitting 10B=10¹⁰ people, 10, each partying with 10 others, 10 iterations of that.

[Thought Art]

Okay but try running a business without some marketing