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@Leo Gura With all this said, how do us mere mortals find solace in your genetic absolutism?

Vadim from Honest Signalz I would say is an exception for pickup coach despite being taller than average. He is the embodiment of attractive masculine behaviours.

@Leo Gura I thought sense organs were imaginary

How much do they matter though?

You think thats bad...I recently approached 350 girls this summer and got only 1 date.

My Review On Cold Approach & Dating Life I recently completed a 4 month pickup mentorship with a coach I hired in Toronto and wanted to share my personal infield and insights. I hope this motivates you to take your journey seriously and give a realistic perspective on Cold Approach. Here are my results from the mentorship: 370 Approaches 16 Numbers 1 Date MY INFIELD - lead to date above: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ro92wpagqQZLL0rnb3qamgHdup6Ziuh6/view?usp=sharing *Don't mind my Hollywood editing skill Preface: It has been one helluva a journey over the last 7+ years with pickup and personal development. It's difficult to recall who I used to be before I made the decision to embark on the hero's journey and answer the call so to speak. My self image has consecutively died and been reborn many times as I searched for answers from within and without. Eventually resulting in a sense of clarity as to who I am and what I want out of all this. What Do I Want Out Of Dating: 1. You are the only one who can determine what you really want: I have admittedly committed the mistake of believing I wanted the results others marketed to me in the pickup community. Examples such as sleeping with hundreds of women and building a "rotation" are a few of the common ideas I deceived myself into desiring. I can starkly see how shallow and immature the above pursuits are and how I never actually choose them. 2. What am I really after: Speaking big picture, I want to live a Good Fulfilling Life "the good life". A life rooted in core self actualized principles and values. Specifically with women, I believe that finding a true life partner will be the most fulfilling. My definition of a life partner extends far beyond almost all the relationships/marriages we see around us. I know that pursing a relationship based on aligned values and purpose is the wisest. This will have a much greater meaning to me (and to most) than sleeping with an endless amount of women or any other lustful fantasy you can imagine. Cold Approach Pro's & Con's: Con's: 1. You have no clue who you are meeting By definition you are entering interactions cold. Besides the women's appearance, you have no idea who you are approaching or any indication of their personality for the most part. I used to overlook this as part of the process without taking any of the above into consideration. Until I experienced enough approach's and thought to myself: If I truly desire a life partner with aligned values and purpose, spending the majority of my efforts approaching random women starts to look absurd viewed from that lens. While cold approach is effective at building your skill set overall, approaching a women solely based on her looks starts to loose its appeal after awhile. Any wise man who's had his "fair share" will tell you that her looks only goes so far. I believe this is one of the largest oversights of the pickup community. People are more than just how they look. But with cold approach, that’s the only factor in our initial decision. I also noticed that pickup does not pay much attention to screening for women you actually like. Instead there’s this obsession with “closing” every girl and pushing each interaction which becomes compulsive and unhealthy. 2. The numbers game is not appealing or in your favour This is very apparent during daytime approach's where in my experience 50%-60% of women have boyfriends. Couple that with the fact most people are in a rush on the street, finding an available girl to stop and chat becomes dismal. To be fair, your stats will improve as your skill level increases but only to a point. Here's a breakdown of the numbers I've found: PUA's I've surveyed: 3-5 numbers per 10 approach's 1 date per 10 numbers My Mentor: 4-5 numbers per10 approaches 2 dates 1 lay 3. Pickup has a massive learning curve Success with women is a gargantuan endeavour even for those well socialized. You are forced to put your ego on the line and question your worldview at times. It will require an enormous amount of time/effort to see consistent results. It is not for the faint of heart and you will have to be motivated by something more than just sex. Pro's: 1. Pickup teaches you to step up and take risk Personally, I never would have had the courage to start my business with out first pursing cold approach pick up. It gave me the confidence to put myself on the line and face rejection which relates directly to my business success. If used consciously, pickup teaches you to develop rock solid inner game which translates to each area of your, life. I am very grateful for all the painful lessons I learned throughout my journey that grew me into the man I am today. This pursuit was one of the hardest things I've ever undertaken but also the most rewarding internally. 2. Your potential dating pool is unlimited I think this is the most appealing aspect of cold approach. The entire world of women opens up to you instead of defaulting to school, work, or social circle to meet them. It's a very empowering insight to know that you can take control of your dating life and have choice. Pro/Con Recap: I've found cold approach to be a powerful tool for personal growth and becoming socially adept. I do still believe it's a great way to meet people romantically but I'm no longer naïve to it's limits. I personally see it as a supplement one should use in dating to contribute to living an already good life. Analogous to how a dietary supplement is intended to compliment an already established healthy diet. Without this insight, I don't believe cold approach is healthy long term and can lead to living a dysfunctional life. My Next Steps: I feel as though now is the time to take a step back and change my approach (pun). I am confident in the abilities I've build up over the last several years and ready to change it up. I know I can approach when the opportunity presents itself and not shy away. I do still feel a bit dishearten at my lack of tangible results with women after all my efforts. But I am clear as to what I want and trust that a natural organic way of meeting women will help me reach my goals. I see myself exploring my interests and meeting women who share the same. I want to build a lifestyle I’m proud of first and foremost. I realized I don't need to be searching for the next girl constantly. I'm after a solid connection and don't mind taking a slower more natural way to get there. I won't be setting any time to strictly cold approach. I'm tired of running around the streets for all the reasons mentioned above. Instead I will only approach if I see a girl that inspires me as I move through my day. I will be doing activities that give me joy first and meeting others is a bonus. Exploring new hobbies and interests will also spark a new zest for life inside me that I so desperately desire.

@assx95 I recently move to a big city and have done 293 approaches resulting in 1 date so far.

Does anyone know the story about this gent: https://instagram.com/ryanmccormick198507?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== He has some pretty crazy insta stories with girls. @Leo Gura is he your wingman?

Thank you!

Does anyone know where I can find Leo’s video where he finds out he has Sibo? My mom is having health issues and I believe it could be Sibo. Thanks!

I know! It was from the self deception video part 1

I wanted to make this post as an inspiration for short guys who think their height is a limitation in dating. I used to feel insecure about my height at only 5'6 and think it will be a deal breaker for most girls. For the last few months, I've been developing an empowered mindset with women and taking action via online apps due to the pandemic until the world opens up and I can approach in person. And I've made a lot of progress with landing a few dates and learning a lot. Feel free to check out my earlier post at the bottom. Anyway, I had a sexual experience with a tall girl the other night that shattered my height insecurity forever. I ended up having a one night stand with a girl from Tinder. Funny enough, she booty called me over to her place out of the blue a week or 2 since our initial conversation. Before, we met I had a few thoughts that it will be weird that she is taller than me and that I actually like shorter girls. I quickly notice the tricky of my mind and cut it out and said fuck it ill do it anyway. I arrive at her place and she opens the door and lone behold she is pretty tall as her photos appeared. To cut to the chase, we end up hooking up and getting dominate with each other. She was into choking and I made her cum 3-4 times. I felt like the man and acted like the strong man that I am. To hammer the point home, height even came up in the conversation somehow and she couldn't believe I was 5'6 when I told her. She said she didn't notice it when we met at the door. She kept complimenting me on how cool and hot I was in bed. In goes to show, that I was hindering myself before with thinking my height was holding me back with women. Mindset is super key with success with women and I know I'm the shit and have core confidence now. I want this to be an inspiration for all "short" guys who are insecure. It's complete bullshit. And even if the odd girl cares, you don't even wanna date those types of girls anyway. So it works out perfectly, they weed themselves out and you are left with the other half of girl who don't give a shit. Yes, most girls won't care when you have your shit together as a man and developed charisma and the plethora of core qualities you as an attractive man should have. I can't wait to go out and crush it in person game when everything opens up. I also wanted to thank Leo for his many posts about this topic and dating advice. I'm really looking forward to the how to get laid video too To sum it up: “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ― Henry Ford I'll see you in the field gentlemen!

@Leo Gura Really appreciate the feedback. Lots of experience I still need to gain. Things get pretty interesting after our second date lol, I'll post about it shortly

I recently met a girl off Tinder and we went on two dates. Below is my first date with her after deep reflection: Overall all the date went accordingly to plan logistically. I picked up my business partner Tesla and texted her when I'd be there. She took the bus and arrived 10 minutes before me at a trail near where she lived. As I was driving, I felt slightly rushed and worried I would be late but I got a grip and remained calmer than I my would have been if this occurred a few years prior. The thoughts of what to say as to why I would be 10 minutes later crossed my mind. Nonetheless, in the end that didn't matter and I overthought it. I arrive and see her sitting under the gazebo and park the car. I get a good glimpse of her as I am approaching and the thought flashes across my mind that I may not be that into her physically. As I greet her, the thought vanishes as I realize I overreacted and she looks like her pictures. I don't go for the hug and tell her the situation with the car and I explained I had to get the car via my business partner. She doesn't seem to bat and eye. I can immediately tell she is not one of those overly expressive types of girls and more soft spoken. Not shy per say but just introverted to some sense. We proceed down the quarry trail with a good amount of accompanying trail goers. I match her vibe and soft tone as we walk. She briefly mentioners her lecture she told me before and have a few exchanges. I was kinda stuck off as she didn't ask me any of the typical small talk questions and I ask her briefly on where she's from and we talk about her ethnic background. She is continuing the conversation and not like there is any awkward silences at all. But I can tell she is not fully at ease more in a nervous in meeting a new person kinda way. Not overly noticeable but I pick up on it. At this point I'm not going into 21 question mode as most guys would. I make joking remarks and keeping it light and conversational. In comparison to my last date before her, I was more relaxed and myself. I was getting very conscious if I was matching her tone too much. I ask her early on about her former tinder experiences and she tells me some funny ones that seem like more of a thing to tell 1 hr or 2 into the date vs 10 mins in. We continue to walk around the quarry trails and the scenery was quite nice but chilly of course. I mention to her about my past with jobs, school etc and a little about what I'm doing now. She actually wants to be a teacher and we joke about the grindy 9-5 life. Through out the whole date one of the things that kinda thru me off was that she didn't seem overly energetic. But I came to realize that was just her personality. And energetic is not the correct term, it's hard to explain. I believe it was a little nervousness and timid. But like I said it was natural and fluid thru out so nothing awkward. We then sit down and I start to feel pretty cold at this point. She opens up a bit with explaining how she gets worried - I can't remember what we were talking about to bring that up. She said sorry If I'm oversharing. I ask if she was worried today and she said a bit before coming bc of meeting someone new. The vibe was still light not too heavy at this point. There was a point where we make eye contact and she says sorry and looks away and said I gave her a funny look. At that moment I was taken back and just wanted to make strong eye contact. I don't know if I really did make a look and it kinda fucked with my head a bit. I just said oh no I like to make eye contact and she said I don't half chuckle kinda of way. That passed and we continued conversing but defiantly took me by surprise. I think she thought I was judging her at some points when that was of course not what I was going for. Both of us are very cold at this point and I say lets warm up in the car. She immediately complies in relive lol She puts on her mask in the car and we start to warm up. We continue talking about her career and other short stories she shares. Its going pretty decent but I felt like this bit of pressure in the air of like what are we going to do next like as if are we gonna sexualize things and I don't feel as present in the conversation at this point. I then show her around the Tesla control features and we fool around a bit with it. I can tell at this point she is sitting back and wants me to lead. I felt kinda stuck on what to do as I felt we were in this limbo in the interaction. She then mentions that her roommates may be mad that she is in my car as she texts then back. But she agreed to go to the supercharger to charge the Telsa. Right before we depart we both go thru the options of if I should drive her back or go to the charger. She then blurts out "I'm having a good time, its not like Im trying to leave you no" My reply was kinda off I say Ok idk but I felt off. Like I said I think she thought I was judging her with my strong eye contact and listening vibe. I then start to drive and she says I hope you're a good driver as she was in a car accident with a prior tinder date. I reply confidently "I'm a fantastic driver as i whip the Tesla. As we are driving I ask her what she is looking for and she says idk immediately as if she didn't really didn't know what to say. Then asks me the same - I say the truth in a very no bullshit and non apologetic way: someone I get along with and open to where it goes. I don't want expectations. She agrees with me in a kinda way where someone ones to win your approval. As I then drop her off she bring up we can go charge the car next week as she will have more time I think I cant remember exactly. She immediately gets out of the car as in a hurry and have brief a goodbye. I ask her schedule and I say lets go something next weekend - she agrees. We cant really hug as Im sitting on the other side of course so I did feel off. I thought it would be weird to get out of the car and g around to hug her so I didn't . Idk if that was the right move I then depart and talk to my business partner for 2 mins before heading back to his place. I feel like damn I had a date and more experience and felt proud of myself. That quickly passes and I start feeling pretty melancholic and feel like something else was triggered inside me. I then have thoughts if I blew this date and what common recurring mistakes do I keep making that made me upset. Not so much if I loose this girl but more than just we don't have chemistry more in the sense what is wrong with who I am not that is sabotaging my dating life and from the date going better. I have felt like this in my pickup journey before and didn't allow myself to beat myself up too bad. I then thought back to what if there is something I am doing fundamentally that is killing the spark in these interactions. Ultimately I get a grip of myself and we snapchat each other the next day and set up another date Stay turned for part 2 ....