Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Joshe]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Smells like BS.

What happened to open mindedness? Take a look for yourself: https://www.personality-database.com/

You're in there as well. 

[Joshe]

28 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I didn't say that.

Well, then it's settled. I'm an INTP. 😁

Or maybe the test should have better questions. 😌

You're an INFP bro 😆

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Joshe said:

What happened to open mindedness?

What happened to using your mind?

[Nemra]

12 minutes ago, Joshe said:

You're an INFP bro 😆

Maybe I’m Schrödinger’s cat — INTP and INFP until observed.

I’m unstructured by design. Good luck, INTJ!

[Joshe]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What happened to using your mind?

I can see how this information would be detrimental to you. You'd have a lot to refactor if the evidence I've presented cannot be refuted. It's laid out. Do with it what you will. 

 

[Joshe]

8 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Maybe I’m Schrödinger’s cat — INTP and INFP until observed.

I’m unstructured by design. Good luck, INTJ!

😂😂

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I can see how this information would be detrimental to you.

It is irrelevant to me.

Anyhow... if you wish to discuss in-depth issues of Myers-Briggs, please start a dedicated thread. You guys can argue over this stuff forever.

Edited June 9 by Leo Gura

[How to be wise]

1 hour ago, Miguel1 said:

Osho also most likely ENFP.

Rupert is something completely else to INFJ?

Osho ENTP, Rupert Spira INTP.

[Ulax]

Thank you for sharing your insights Leo. You the man/ infinite consciousness

[Daniel Balan]

Actualized quotes #209.

The legend has it that, that old German man, was in fact Austrian! An Austrian man which used to be a painter! 

Edited June 10 by Daniel Balan

[Daniel Balan]

Recently I've listened to AI translated speeches of the Austrian painter! It scared me to realize that he was speaking exactly like today's right wingers! The us vs them mentality, the external enemy that threatens to destroy the nation( back then it was the jew, now the enemy is the migrant and the stage green globalists) a stark remark is the hatred which both the painter and today's right wingers have towards democracy! When the painter meant that it is time to destroy the Jewish state he meant the democratic Weimar republic, not the Ussr. He believed that democracies are the work of the jews! Much like how todays right wingers hate democracies because of the "degenerate west".

[Vynce]

General question @Leo Gura relating to your posts about others writings and podcasts ect.: 

Whats your general intention while reading and listening to the theories of others? Since your own theory of everything is so robustly equipped with logic and empiricism, whats the point?

Isn't it like watching bodybuilding shows from the pre-steroid era?

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Vynce said:

Whats your general intention while reading and listening to the theories of others?

I learn from everyone. I learn from Nazis. I learn from terrorists. I learn from AI doomers. I learn from silly scientists. I learn from Christians. I learn from Zionists.

It's all grist to deepen my own models of mankind.

There's always more insight to be had.

Edited June 10 by Leo Gura

[integral]

16 hours ago, Nemra said:

Or maybe the test should have better questions. 😌

why would an external source tell you who you are? This is lazy epistemology

15 hours ago, Nemra said:

Maybe I’m Schrödinger’s cat — INTP and INFP until observed.

I’m unstructured by design. Good luck, INTJ!

lmao ya observe yourself... The INFP and the INTP are two completely completely completely completely completely completely completely different types of people.

its like not being able to see the difference between red and blue... color blind, thats your curent level of development for this model.

This isn't a fun identity game where you just masturbate to your own identity and decide to be to be whoever you want like some fairy tale, you have to do hard work to develop large scale pattern recognition and develop your own internal mental model so you could see the world with clarity. And to see the limits of models which none of you guys are at that level yet.

It's like you wanna find limits when you can't even see the difference between 2 colours

Edited June 10 by integral

[Nemra]

@integral, dude, you are taking the discussion too seriously. It's not worth it.

I haven't really cared about what I was by the test from the beginning.

I was also being humorous.

If you go back a little bit, you would see that I said the questions were too simple.

13 minutes ago, integral said:

why would an external source tell you who you are? This is lazy epistemology

How did you come to that conclusion? 😮‍💨

Edited June 10 by Nemra

[integral]

3 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@integral, dude, you are taking the discussion too seriously. It's not worth it.

I haven't really cared about what I was from the beginning

I was also being humorous.

If you go back a little bit, you would see that I said the questions were too simple.

How did you come to that conclusion? 😮‍💨

😅 the statement you made is one that is the most common statements made about any model so I was yelling down the collective hellhole lol

Edited June 10 by integral

[Eskilon]

30 minutes ago, integral said:

This isn't a fun identity game where you just masturbate to your own identity and decide to be to be whoever you want like some fairy tale, you have to do hard work to develop large scale pattern recognition and develop your own internal mental model so you could see the world with clarity. And to see the limits of models which none of you guys are at that level yet.

It's like you wanna find limits when you can't even see the difference between 2 colours

To take ANY model that seriously is not to be developed as you are saying. 

Edited June 10 by Eskilon

[integral]

40 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

To take ANY model that seriously is not to be developed as you are saying. 

I'm not saying the model is true and we have to respect it, you're misunderstanding.

What im saying is what's the point of having a model if you're not gonna apply it in the most conscious way possible? That includes understanding its limitations, I do not say this model has no limitations.

I'm criticizing things being half assed.

Edited June 10 by integral

[Anton Rogachevski]

@Leo Gura

Leo, if all scientists became philosophers or mystics who would build your pc and smartphone? Who would solve global warming? They would just sit and talk all day about how well they understand God, and how stupid everyone is for not understanding it. Where does that lead us? What's the value?

God as a firefly is already caught within the confines of the brain, it is simply the nature of consciousness as it becomes self aware in a high state. A high state is not a natural phenomenon, but a distortion which is not supposed to happen naturally. Only a mild high state from a long meditation, that I'll grant.

Sorry to ruin the party, I'm afraid you won't like my new hypothesis. I think that psychedelics disturb the module in the brain that is responsible for perception of limits and so you get an illusion of infinity, and since you are inside the illusion there's no way to disprove it as there is no apparent reference point anymore - that was the belief in an external finite world.

Edited June 10 by Anton Rogachevski

[trenton]

I'm here to comment on Leo's post about the German soldier ranting about Jews. The two German soldiers told him they were Jewish, but they were not believed. This is the no true Scotsman fallacy. If you understand logic it seems simple, but the consequences of this self-deception were actually severe. What starts off as a minor intellectual error spiraled into something unimaginably terrible.