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Lol, yeah I getchu. That kind of thing can happen on N,N,DMT as well though. When I’ve smoked it, I perceived myself as some completely different alien being. Not a cartoon wolf, but my sense of self was very altered.

At this point I don't even know what on earth is Leo smoking ...it's worrying. Alien cartoon wolf shemale Buddhist rat. if you don't know what that is you have no clue what consciousness is ?

Do certain species have a unique intelligence that can't be replicated by other species even if they are way more advanced? Humans the bullshitting animal might be so good at bullshitting that certain inventions only come from humans. With all the alien stuff right now I wondered that if alien existed on planet earth if that's what they are after. They might be way more evolved but our bullshitting behavior might be worth the study because its no unique it gives unique knowledge. Just like we study animal and plant behavior and learn from it even though we are more evolved.

Is just because my Sun is in Leo and also Thundercats was a cartoon I use to like a lot. Even the sword that gives vision is somehow symbolic to me. Apart from that I created the name without thinking to much. But yes, if I could choose an Alien universe to live it would be one where cats are people and they use swords. Hehe

no, it's a cosmic battle between non-dual rats and alien rats. Let's see if the alien rats have something real to put on the table, we don't want them to become extinct and forgotten, much better if they became an evolutionary step

The next step for evolution from a human is mental. This is to evolve into an alien mentally by seeing you are a psychic alien in a human body

Perhaps what he means is they are so highly developed and evolved and their consciousness is so advanced that it eclipses everything. That is to say, it is so complex to fathom or even grasp even when we are in high states of consciousness that when one connects to them it is so profoundly and unexpectedly perplexingly incomprehensibly and bizarre and their world is so different from anything one could ever experience or imagine that it just blows your mind to the point of insanity. Or he tapped into an alien mind that went insane and he experienced it. In the meantime, you will have to wait until he brings the course out. The funny thing is when I connected to infinite intelligence it was not human nor am I.

That’s the irony of human logic. Alien consciousness is beyond that, so the very notion of understanding, knowing, or experience (again, as a human) flies out the window. It’s so massive, beyond size, that everything becomes alien. Anyway, I’ve only experienced it very briefly once or twice. Maybe I will experience it again, maybe I won’t. I’ll let God decide. I’m currently not alien conscious as I write this reply.

I’ve never done 5-MeO once in my life and I understand what he refers to by alien consciousness. I wish I could give a rational examination, but it’s beyond rational. Let’s not make Leo into a cult leader. That’s against this work.

You said "name a better place". I didn't think "Leo's teachings" was a place. But anyways, I would do the same thing for Leo the person: he is a person with a certain background and experiences, done a lot of spiritual practices, self-help, a shitload of psychedelics, etc.; probably saved a few lives in the process as well. Well, I haven't done a shitload of 5-MeO-DMT, so I don't really know what he means with Alien Consciousness or ultimate God-realization. I can only extrapolate based on my "shitload" of meditation-induced mystical experiences and a few LSD experiences. I could believe that he has experienced some crazy shit, but I don't really know what he has experienced. But from how he talks about it, it seems to mostly agree with basic non-duality, so there is not much to disagree about there.

Agreeing and believing Leo about God is yet another bias. Best to let the Universe give you a instead and let your own direct experience speak for itself. If you’re still needing a logical and definitive explanation for all of THIS, then good luck. You’ll be searching for the next billion years. THIS is right here, right now. I am you, you are me, blah, blah, blah. Yet, some are still awaiting for the next profound Alien Magic extravaganza for Leo to blow us away with.

Ah, yes. Just like the time he skipped seeing a girlfriend for a yoga date and instead shat alien blood on his carpet. Good times!

Agree on what? Not looking for agreement or disagreement necessarily. Those are irrelevant. What you should be doing is listening, paying attention to what a teacher communicates, and from there decide whether you want to study his or her work deeper or not. The validity of a communication stands on its own. I ignore the alien consciousness stuff because I've got no interest in it and have no idea what it is really. The "classic" work is already hard by itself. Neither do I share the claim that psychedelics can produce consciousness/awakening.

Thank you both @vibv & @Leo Gura!! Aren't there always higher levels of consciousness though? Aren't there levels that make alien consciousness look like silly nonsense? If I was born as a frog, human levels of consciousness would seem incredible and make me feel like frog consciousness is ridiculous and stupid. But it would kinda be a shame if I spent my entire life as a frog trying to have glimpses of human consciousness instead of living it up as a frog while I can, right? Why not eat hella bugs, sing my frog heart out, and live the most immaculate amphibious life possible? Then, I would assume consciousness could play whatever games it wants after that! It could go be a human, an alien, or anything else! Let me know if that example makes sense lmfaooooo. Again, I only go back to this analogy because it's useful, but heroin addicts prioritize temporary drug-induced pleasure over all else, and many of them die because the human body has limitations on how many drugs it can sustain. And if you prioritize temporary drug-induced consciousness over all else, aren't you also incentivized to push the human body to the point of real damage? If this human thing is all silly nonsense, why take care of the body?

Cool, that's settled then. Lol, right. Listen to what? "I am the most awake guy on the planet (even though there are no others), only I can tell you what awakening is (even though I don't know how), Alien Insanity ftw"? If that is the whole 'teaching', then I sure as heck don't know what I or anyone else is supposed to do with it. If you do, then please ENLIGHTEN me.

There is alien wetness which no human mule will ever know.

Yup. However, once you discover alien consciousness, you will realize everything else is silly nonsense.

You're not human. You're a multi-dimensional alien that lives beyond time.

I haven’t been very active on the forum, so I’m not really up to date on today’s discussion here. Therefore I must ask: what do you refer to when you talk about your teachings, especially in the context of no one understanding? Is it about the stuff you have made videos about and talked about for years already, but that it is misunderstood by everyone on the forum, or is it something new; stuff like alien consciousness that you’ve been touching on a bit on the forum? If it’s the latter one, then I would question the measure in which you say it is teached, cause I don’t count forum discussions as teaching, especially in subjects like that. Not to say that you have to teach anything. But I’m eaget to deepen my undestanding and especially understand stuff you talk about. I’ve been waiting for videos or a course from you to give me insight. Absolutely zero demanding here. I’m already very grateful for everything you’ve done. I only wish to be up to date with where we at, and with what specifically?

I'm so grateful for this community and the fact that I can ask questions like this here! Excited to hear everyone's thoughts. @Leo Gura has been mentioning "alien" and "transhuman" states of consciousness that can only be accessed by psychedelics and cannot be locked in as a baseline state. What makes it a good strategy to pursue more and more temporary experiences of alien consciousness, then? Why not explore human consciousness while we're living as humans and then go explore other levels of consciousness once we're not human anymore? Don't get me wrong, I love psychedelics, and I think they can have a very profound impact on the level of human consciousness that we CAN sustain in a natural state. But Like… if transhuman consciousness is what you're after… isn't the best strategy to just stop being human lmfao??? Isn't it an odd goal to chase something that, by definition, can't be fully attained by a human? Why not master the human realm of consciousness instead of being really bad at transhuman levels? Of course, I mean this analogy with all due respect, but I thought the big reason why people don't do heroin is because the ecstasy it produces can never be sustained and it makes the rest of life feel pretty damn bland. So does that not happen when pursuing temporary states of alien consciousness too? It sounds incredibly frustrating for anyone who values consciousness to attempt to sustain a transhuman level of consciousness that can only be experienced for short periods. It sounds like that pursuit would make you have a lot less gratitude for your life and human levels of consciousness. I would love to hear everyone's thoughts!

@Osaid No he doesn't. He's perfectly clear that God is One and Absolute. One dreamer dreaming. His infinity of Gods vid is there only to confuse people. Unless you mean that he thinks there is something above infinite, perfect love in it's various expressions. In that case, I would agree that he is imagining various nonsense, like alien consciousness or whatever.

He said that "Alien Love" is a thing. That's probably the most interesting thing to me. Might be tied with the alien mouse experience actually, both sound wild.

LOL I know right? But I get it, he had a profound experience into the nature of an interdimensional Alien Mouse and that level of Infinite Intelligent Expression would and could make a human identity turn their nose down at humans. I would suggest Leo maybe change his perspective and look at the miracle and goodness of humans. I've had awakenings into the innate genius of humanity and how precious each of their lives are. It has shown me that each individual's awakening is just a reflection of their egoic world view. So Leo on a subconscious level wanted to experience the deepest most complex form that Infinite Intelligence could show him and that manifested into him awakening to Alien Intelligence and experiencing being that mouse. Pretty interesting.

It's NOT like an alien?? Hearsay!

are you going to release an episode on youtube regarding alien consciousness before your course?