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Seems great..I too want to achieve Mahasamadhi sometime...it seems like what you are calling Mahasamadhi, Leo calls Godhead. But what after Mahasamadhi? Consciousness will again find some form of expression.. You do realise that THIS is endless, don't you? Which is what makes reality so mysterious and sometimes so overwhelming and alien?

Yes, for example. We want to reverse engineer those alien spacecrafts works so we can use it for World Control.

@Inliytened1 its a dimension of existence thats layered over reality. Its an ethereal plane. God can change its identity to anything with it. When I was in the akashic records I was both inside and outside simultaneously. More outside but I had a seperate layer of vision that I could see I was inside too looking into a book and I saw my algorithm and threw it into my conciousness on the outside. Its dimension 0+ On my mushroom trip I disconnect from my body I saw the spirit realm and lost my identity its just colours of light. Then I went to 2d it was a board game or life path i changed my position on the board then I went to 1d an alien tried to mind wipe me of my experience but it didn't work then I went to akashic record to recover my identity then I was back. The akashic records are baked into every frame of existence

Hello Derek ? it's good to know that your life is on track...well done!! And yes J Krishnamurti is smart. I have read some of Jks work... But compared to Leo? I don't think that's a good idea... It can happen that you resonate with his teachings more and it helped you at certain time whereas Leo's didn't. But it is because Leo's videos are much advanced than his. And not everyone can comprehend them. This is not about Jk vs Leo. It is about what is relevant right now to consciousness? For me any day Leo because first he is alive today...he can tell if we are interpreting him right. He is growing at such a fast pace. And most importantly his understanding is way way deeper than Jk and majority of others. Probably 1000x Jk's understanding will make Leo's understanding. And if we take Alien Consciousness into account, I don't know maybe million times but I won't comment on that because I haven't accessed those states.

@Inliytened1 i was forcibly brainwashed out of believing in God by being lied to about god by people who claimed to know God. That left me no other alternative but to be dogmatic towards science. Religion kills your metaphysical self the way its being done right now. They use Santa to trick you into creating an imaginary friend that resembles God in your eyes and then tell you later that they were lying to you and this crushes your metaphysical sense of reality. Its done on purpose to praise science.you will never be made such a fool again to beleive something you cannot see. And an athiest is born and now we are turning the earth into a planet without life and robots mimicking life. If you were an alien and came to earth before science and then left and came back 300 years later and there are robots everywhere mimicking life you would say this planet has been overrun with a virus thats copying the host but has no life. Thats science a mind virus that is slowly copying humans and one day will have a planet completely dominated by copies of what the earth used to be with no actual alive things. Science and religion are working together to extinguish life.

Science is pushing us further from God than we have ever been. Its alien to humans and we are seeing the consequences of it now.

Guys where is your imagination, you want to be in a room with a radical intelligent different mind then your own. The first alien to come to earth.

You are the infinite adopting a defined pattern of existence that we call human life in which there are a series of rules, such as the existence of psychedelics and the fact that if you are leo gura and take a lot you end up with something you call: alien consciousness, but all that is within the human pattern

You are human, so your alien consciousness is human. Maybe you could call it maximum psychedelic awakening, because there are no aliens here at the moment

Also on that I agree. Fully. As long as it is a fully enlightened Alien Consciousness on a stable basis. Imagine a little very happy and blissful Alien Consciousness, fully aware pretty much all of the time of its True Natrue, basking in the bliss of its True Nature. So lets go up the ladder of enlightened beings, and why the higher ones probably smile lovingly on the fully enlightened primitive human. One can have a fully enlightened human, and then a fully enlighened angel (or whatever one wants to call that), and even probably an fully enlightened planetary consciousness. Then fully enlightened Galaxy-Consciousness. Fully Enlightened= knows its True Nature, and that of all appearance, of all realms, all dimensions, of all that is possible. Short form: Knows Absolute Infinite Reality/Consciousness. The essence of all(!) possible realms/dimensions. And probably quite early above the Human level, full enlightenment is given or pre-requisite. See Christopher Baches "Diamond Light Lucidity Beings", LSD and the Mind of the Universe: Diamonds from Heaven Then an enlightened entity (also a, although huge, enlightened perspective in Indras Net, encompassing holarchically many other perspectives, but not as dominant monad perspective, but as group holon, yet with its own agency) creating, maintaining and managing a Universe. An enlightened entity managing a group of Universes. For sure extremely Alien already here. Next: An enlightened entity containing, reflecting and managing an enlightened entity managing a group of Universes. Thinking about which kind of Dimension to create next. Next: An enlightened entity containing an infinity of the entities above, defining the charateristics of appearing universes so alien to ours that they would be barely reckognizeable. Next: An enlightened entity containing an infinity of the entities above, Next n+1, and the mathematical move of n towards infinity. That is a class of Infinity, and STILL not Infinite Absolute Reality. Still not all of Reality. Still not God. And now comes to kicker: A holarchie of enlighened beings upwards to infinity. That is btw. Ken Wilbers perspective (although he holds back): Holons upwards to infnity, and downwards (or we will never find the final quark/string, whatever). And what contains all of that? The INFINITE Absolute Reality/Consciousness. God. The Singularity that can very well be realized. Not on animal level, but starting here on human level on this lovely little planet of ours. Sure, there is nothing else to do until all of eternity than exploring exactly all the realms/dimensions/consciousnesses and so on. Hopefully in a fully enlightened way, basking in the bliss of True Nature. Maybe that helps getting an idea why yours truly is not too much grasping and suffering for certain insights/Awakenings going up that ladder towards Infinity and ever more Alien stuff (and giving up staying in True Nature/bliss while doing so). Health in an eco-system (or Holarchie) is also defined as functional fit: Knowing ones role/being/limitations, and having healthy exchanges on all levels of being, up and down the Holarchie. And there is plenty of juicy job-opportunities described in the ladder above, for all of eternity and every next life still yet to come. And on all levels, Empty Mirros are very welcome, see signature. Water by the River

@Water by the River If you had Alien Consciousness you would forget all about Buddhism. The only problem is locking it in. It will kill you that you can't. If I had permanent Alien Consciousness I would literally never talk to any human ever again. I would quit humanity forever and bask in my own Mind, and every human spiritual idea, practice, teaching, and attainment would mean nothing.

Allow me some further musings on the topic. In stage 3 Yoga of One Taste (One Taste = Nondual), Nonduality starts showing up. But Nonduality is not Impersonal Infinite Consciousness, because one can be in nondual Unity and still think that one is an "enlightened person", or any other crappy concept or self-identity for that matter. The ripening of Nonduality goes from stage 3 Yoga of One Taste to stage 4, Yoga of Nonmeditation. Nonmeditation, because the meditation has become so automized that the need for any separate-self agency feeling doing anything is no longer necessary and is discarded and also cut off. And then one is accident-prone to the possible accident of Enlightenment, Impersonal Infinite Consciousness realizing itself. At that stage, doing anything is just creating another cloud hiding the sun of ones true being, because doing anything would be another thougt/feeling-movement in Infinite Consciousness/Mind/Reality. And psychedelics are very nice for helping the whole process, and for exploring the Multiverse and other interesting stuff. But for transcending the last subtle separate-self-identity-arisings (subtle separate-self thoughts and feelings), and cutting off the sometimes arisings-non-bliss-feeling-bad-arisings (in other words: suffering) that are a part of the separate-self-package, I have yet to see one case (just a single one would be very interesting) where that has been done mainly on a stable basis/outcome in daily life with only psychedelics. That can be very well had with meditation practice. Meditation: Actually, from all I have seen, getting rid of all the clouds of the separate-self takes a long time in certain states (boundless, timeless infinite consciousness, nondual and the separate-self already nothing but a feeling of "individuality", some "nothing" watching the nondual totality), 100s of hours. Maybe 1000s. For most practitioners at least, including yours truly. On the stage 3 and 4 of the stages of Yoga of One Taste and Yoga of Nonmeditation alone (and these are not boring or annoying sitting meditation hours by then, but blissful and wonderful hours in daily life in something called Post-Samadhi-Meditation (or off the pillow meditation) in the book). And in that 100s or 1000s of hours subtle separtate-self identities/arisings get spotted, seen (subject->object), transcended and cut off. And I can assure you, oh boy, these are sometimes really sneaky and subtle. When all of that is transcended, the sudden Deep Identity Shift/Understanding can happen. "Yes, there is nothing else than THAT, and "my" essence is that, and what "I" thought I was was just a movement/arising of thoughts/feelings/centers within THAT. My True Being is all of Reality. But nothing specific. No separate-anything. The whole enchilada without center and core". But its not a elaborated thinking. It is Infinite Consciousness UNDERSTANDING/REALIZING itself, and there is nothing else than THAT, never possibly could be. The understanding in thought-form gets elaborated LATER, after Infinite Consciousness/Reality has understood itself, the nature of the world and its own nature (nondual). Psychedelics: bring a lot and strong forms of the Awakened States (nondual, infinite, mere appearance, and a lot more). States that one would only get by meditation if already very empty, or the separate-self-arising (thought/feeling)flow already cut a lot. So the states are very awake/nondual/infinite, but the separate-self-arisings is still colouring the experience. Although they can also be very subtle/empty at that state. And that is my little theory that explains all phenomena and examples I have seen so far: There is just not enough time and deeply cut-off/transcended separate-self-arisings in psychedelic states to cause that deep Identity-Level Shift of Full Enlightenment. And often, and maybe even much more problematic than the point just mentioned, there is a lot of nonduality/Unity in psychedelic states but a lot of separate-self-feelings/identites/... still left. Not a pure and impersonal Nonduality/Unity, but rather a Unity loaded with not-so-impersonal-stuff. And that doesn't fully count as these 100s or 1000s hours mentioned above, because they may be not so flashy consciousness/awakened, but are already quite nondual/Unity and very very impersonal/empty/nearly-no-separate-self still left. Only last fragments, being dissolved as time goes on. Short form: Meditation: Unity/Nonduality/Awakened States only when very large parts of separate-self-arisings (thoughts/feelings) are already gone/transcended Psychedelics: Lots of Unity/Nondual/Awakened States EVEN with separate-self-arisings (thoughts/feelings) in large parts not seen trough, even with the help of the psychedelic. Full Enlightenment: And for the sudden Deep Identity Level Shift of Full Enlightenment the separate-self-arisings/thoughts/feelings need to be ALL seen through/Transcended/cut off (which at the same time is also a huge boost of Nonduality/Awakenings, making the whole field an infinite nondual groundless mere appearance field hovering within ones timeless true always here Being, and Infinite Awareness Space with separate-self-center/Individuality fully gone. Just THIS). In Full Enlightenment, there is no agent left that is still believed, no center. So one IS Reality itself. And literally everything that could ever appear is a manifested/imagined arising/appearance, imagined by "the" Infinite Mind/Consciousness. And that "Mind", or Reality, dreams and is deluded until "It" realized there is only itself, watching itself, fooling and believing itself in endless appearances. If there is "someone", or arisings of a "you" that thinks "it" is enlightened: Welcome, that is another illusion-layer (as Leo correctly points out). It is maybe an Enlightenment (Nondual Unity with the Infinite Void), but not Full Enlightenment. And for the impersonal aspect: Sounds horrible, in practice its wonderful: One is this life "oneself", next life maybe life something else completely: Different personality, different body, Human, Alien, whatever. Impersonal Consciousness open up exactly that. Like dreaming being someone/something else at night. But the price of transcending this specific bodymind has to be paid. And since its only an illusion, only has some fear-defense-mechanism BEFORE the Gateless Gate of waking up to ones True Identity, Infinite Impersonal Consciousness, or Reality itself. Water by the River

@Leo Gura I am extremely cautious believe me with these things... I would rather NOT relive an imaginary demonic alien invasion The thing is I've had a LOT of therapy. Hours upon hours clinic after clinic I was talking about all the shit that happened and keeps happening to me but it did absolutely fucking nothing. Nothing ever changed or got processed if anything I would get triggered and hallucinate garbage again The Self Talk Therapy where I write out a conversation between different aspects of me (The Exiled Child, The Manager, The Schizoid one) seems most helpful as of right now. I even bought a book from Teal Swan, one of the methods was basically just what I describe above And listening to certain music on HHC... I will dig deeper into journaling and this breathwork stuff even though I despise laying on the floor for 50 mins and doing that ? Like, what would be the root of intrusive horror thoughts. How do I get rid of this root.

I agree that some Awakenings can't be had without psychedelics. And that what you call Alien Consciousness is for sure cutting edge. And I do consider you a pioneer, and have read so far most of what you wrote, and watched most of your videos. "Alien Consciousness is completely beyond everything those Buddhists understand or have ever achieved." That I don't know, since I don't know what every Buddhist has achieved. But it is very well possible what you write, since they didn't have 5-MeO and other stuff. They had psychedelics [ Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana ], but not all what is available now, and not pure. But some exploration they did: https://www.psychedelicsangha.org/paisley-gate/2019/5/8/the-supreme-array-scripture-a-psychedelic-stra-for-buddhist-psychonauts-pp3zz , Yet, I consider Full Enlightenment becoming that Ultimate Reality as a Deep Identity level shift, with no more filters of the separate-self not seen through or covering that Realization/Deep Identity Level shift, no more filter on any of these Awakenings/Enlightenments. True Self, because every being is that already, with some illusion-clouds on top. Not projecting Absolute Reality on separate-self remains, but pure Impersonal Infinite Consciousness. And since that brings bliss and liberation in daily life. I consider it highly valueable. Summum Bonum [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summum_bonum ] So lets continue exploring and awakening to ever higher, larger and more encompassing [Alien] perspectives in Indras Net of Reality, since that is one of the reasons why we are, and one of the reasons God is playing that game/Lila. I just propose doing that from a consideration of the basis of the Summum Bonum mentioned above. Considering that suffering = continued search for further experiences/understandings/realization and end of suffering = resting in ones Deep True Identity as Reality itself, there is a "little" pointer given by Reality via suffering on that issue. Specifically: Placing the importance/value of Alien Consciousness on the same level as striving for Full Enlightenment, i feel fine with that. As long as the Alien Consciousness doesn't drag home some less-than-healthy consequences. Why? Because the paths for both goals go towards more Consciousness, not less. They run parallel, or at least normally not opposed if one doesn't get lost in these Alien Awakenings. Which probably can be avoided. Placing anything higher as the striving for Full Enlightenment is in my perspective choosing suffering, which is not a permanently sustainable strategy. That is the only reason why I am writing all of this. Besides that, I am a big fan Leo! The world needs more people like you. The more pioneers we have, the faster the Wild West is explored. And the faster we know where the rattlesnakes are hiding, which branch-off of the path leads to Death Valles and which leads to California. Water by the River

@Water by the River Thank you for the effort and thought you put into your posts and explanations of Buddhism. There's some good stuff in what you quote. And I see what is being gotten at there. There's definitely value to that. However, I still insist that the God-Realization I speak of is beyond that and cannot be attained via those methods. Although I do not dismiss that those attainments you mention are very good and valuable, and perhaps that's the most a human mind can attain as a permanent state. But Alien Consciousness is completely beyond everything those Buddhists understand or have ever achieved. And THAT is the real difference between what I teach and what every other spiritual human on this planet teaches. Again, the problem is that Buddhism is reductionistic. It tries to boil consciousness down to emptiness. It tries to deconstruct consciousness. Which is NOT what I am teaching and not the highest consciousness. To truly fathom consciousness requires a non-reductionist approach in which consciousness grasps itself at the highest level. None of this Buddhism even begins to touch the highest level of Alien Mind which I have discovered. You will not reach Alien Consciousness through any kind of monitoring techniques of your thoughts. And so as I have said before, Buddhism is fine, it gets you to certain levels of consciousness. But nowhere near the levels which I have been to. No, we are not talking about the same Awakening. And that's the whole rub.

@Leo Gura I mean you could quit. You have already put out a vast library of life-transforming work that is going to be relevant for a long-time. Especially with psychedelics as they seem be the cutting edge of spirituality at this time. Also, I think your work on YouTube plus you constantly nagging people and telling them they can go deeper on the forum can lead a lot of people to deep God realizations. Selfishly, I would be very disapointed if you did not release something regarding alien consciousness. I'm extremely drawn to this and really want to access this state in my life time. Of course, I'm assuming a lot about it through concepts, images etc... but I'm drawn nonetheless. Let's see what you decide to do...

It could be just a kid wearing an underwear on his head. What's weird is how natural the walk is, like that's how it's walking it's whole life. It's possible to train a kid to do that, but requires a lot of effort. Thin, like malnourished, small. Not wearing anything. It's shiny, or Oily, or Glowy. It's more "glowy" than the other objects in the viciniy. Large head. The case is called "the Dobby Mystery" They've interviewed the owner, possible that it's her son. His Son is closely related to the built of the being on the video. But the mother denied it, saying the son is beside her when it happened. The owner told the news, that the camera only records 10 seconds after detecting movement. What do you think?

My explanation of it is pretty simple. In order to be human you must reside within a very narrow and low state of consciousness. This is true even if you are a fully enlightenment Buddha. Your consciousnes is still less 1% of what is possible. And that is simply because that's what it means to be human. The highest levels of consciousness are so alien and non-human that a human can barely remember or think about them, nevermind access them at will, nevermind making such changes permenent. What the human can make permament is very very little. Which is why enlightenment teachers poo-poo the whole idea of "chasing states". They tell you not to do it because a human can't sustain them. That's what "human" IS. Human means being pretty much in the state you're currently in. But what a human can sustain is something like deep surrender and emptiness. Which is what they call enlightenment. And this has it's benefits for humans, but as far as consciousness goes it's still weak. So it's sort of a sad situation because most of consciousness remains inacceesible and unsustainable for humans. Merely by the fact of being human. I guess after death that will change. Which is the point of death. Death finally frees you to explore higher domains because you are no longer attached to the human experience scheme.

@effortlesslumen on a shroom trip i leave my body and I went to the second dimension. It was 2d from my perception and there was a board game. Try to imagine the point that you focus your eyes on as the 2d dimension they can look up and down but never back or forward only focus and un focus. I was moving around like that. And then I hit 1 d and it was just rooms going from left to right. The rooms had no depth but they looked like they had depth you cant enter them because its like you are behind glass to the rooms. There was an alien in one of the rooms and he try to mind wipe me.

@Jehovah increases Yeah, they either evolved a way to bend space and time using their alien minds, or through their technology, or a bit of both, creating temporary worm holes or something.

I don't remember the last time a girl said this to me. It's possible I have never even gotten this. If you are getting this, then you are doing something badly wrong, as a man, in the approach itself. But anyway, even if I did get this, my response would be, depending on my mood, something like "Well, you better run '', or "Yes, and proud of it. '', and walk away to approach another girl in front of her (in a fun, properly calibrated way, like a proper man). -- Getting triggered and defensive over this is similar to if someone called you a horse, or an alien (alien rat), or a house, or a car... You would not care, simply because it is not true, and you would laugh it off. For me it would most likely (unless I am in a heavy, negative space) actually come across funny if someone called me a horse: '', what makes you think that? Do I look like a very fast runner?'' Basically, you get triggered and defensive only because it is At Least somewhat true. Especially during a social and fun situation. And finally, you mention that you don't want to ''reward'' their bad behavior. Well... When you get triggered by these lower-conscious, negative people, you are actually giving them exactly what they want: your ego getting poked. Ignoring them and moving on is the best punishment.

@mr_engineer What if alien in that moment loses his self control and finally comes down to shake your hand? Man does what he wants take risks, but if you think police will come to you because you were "creeping "on girls that means you either watched too many red pill, or you doing something messed up without realizing.

Lol, okay... and of course following some crackpot psychedelic junkie with a massive superiority complex who prattles on about Alien Insanity and whatnot won't lead you off the spiritual cliff, right? The big irony, as exemplified in this thread, is that none of you guys who think that they are so above Buddhist doctrine have any idea what it even means to follow the Buddhist path and where it can potentially lead to. Including Leo. And I am saying this as a non-religious person.

And "insane levels of consciousness" or "insigh" into what? Appearance/Form/Arisings IN Absolute Reality. N+1, evermore, forever. You never "arrive" somewhere (IT is infinite and Infinity). And while doing that and not being fully enlightened (or BEING Ones True Nature, Absolute Reality): Suffering in cycles. "I have never claimed that psychedelics result in the lack of suffering." But at least I got the message that the end of psychological suffering (or Full Enlightenment) was declared impossible, or at least as lower in value or priority (like in "spiritual summom bonum, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summum_bonum) to ever new and higher Awakenings. Please correct me if I got the wrong impression. Look, exploring Reality with ever new Awakenings: Wonderful, I am all for it! It is the future of Humanity, and you are a pioneer. There are literally endless dimensions to be explored. By the way, do you know the work of Jurgen Ziewe (longtime Out of body explorer, with legit Enlightenment experiences)? (http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Model_of_the_Multidimensional_Universe.html ; http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Higher_Mental_Planes_or_Heaven_Worlds.html ; http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Life_after_death_-_a_description_of_the_afterlife.html ) for example. I am sure you would love it. The only problem I see is giving that higher exploration of ever higher Awakenings n+1 more value/priority over stabilzing in ones True Being (Full Enlightenment). Because it will lead to more suffering for many, including you. That is as far as I can see that is pretty much the only point where we have different perspectives. And please take care that you dont take some demons/angels (sorry old fashioned wording from a few centuries ago) Aliens of the not so well meaning kind (Jaques Valle, Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers; Charles Upton, The Alien Disclosure Deception; Graham Hancock, Supernatural) back home from the exploration, and go really insane and not just a bit alien insane. And that is meant not ironically, but well meaning and respectfully. Hic sunt dracones. All the best for your future journey, and same for all forum participants. Really. Water by the River

Sure, neither is right or wrong but I am also very interested in deep understanding and that is why I follow you very seriously. But there's so much else involved. I was very sick for a 21 year old and I had to focus on health and I took kriya yoga seriously, I have done well over 1000 hours now and I am still only 23. There is another part of it that changes you're brain chemistry slowly making you a happier and more peaceful person. This has wide ranging benefits and especially when it comes to being productive and effective - being happier is better. Sad and depressed people don't get stuff done (well I think so anyways). I think it helped me a lot with health, OCD, making me happier and so on... I think it is helpful for my life purpose and dealing with survival. I know you don't like hippie woo woo stuff. But in my experience, I have genuinely noticed it is easier for me to manifest stuff into my life. I mean this very sincerely and it is a living reality for me. I think it has set a very powerful base for investigating reality, for example being healthy, less compulsive about food, sex, sleeping less, sharper mind, sharper senses and so on. As you say state matters as does meeting your survival needs which I find are easier to manifest. I want to discover God, I want to discover alien consciousness (just a belief for me based on what you say) but doing something for basic health and wellbeing has been a very powerful starting point so maybe you could say it is a priority. I think you were just hell bent on truth lol. Also man, you talk a lot about hard work and being very disciplined etc... to some extent I agree but I read a lot of your posts about hard work and I don't agree with them. I work half as much as I use to and I am much more successful now. I actually don't really believe in hard work especially when it comes to meeting survival needs and having a life purpose. My experience has been that these things can be crafted effortlessly but this again happend after doing a lot of yoga. I mean Sadhguru talks about making your life energies vibrant so you cam easily have what you want. I don't know what the fuck that means but usually I easily get what I want.