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Re-watching @Leo Gura's spiral Dynamics stage Orange video, I've manually taken notes on my OneNote Commonplace book about everything Leo explained about stage Orange in his video. Thus making a thorough and compressive summary for everyone interested in spiral dynamics stage orange. No AI was used whatsoever. Hope it helps! Enjoy! What is the essence of Orange? It's individual achievement. Improving the self. All the actions you undertake are only for your own personal gain. This is a shift from the blue worldview which was about sacrificing yourself for the good of civilization. Orange is not concerned with the afterlife. All it matters is that it lives the good life here on earth. With Orange comes the rise of: Business Consumerism Secularism The separation of church and state. Popular culture Scientism (Like science turned into the new religion) Success oriented self-help. The rise of secular democracies. As opposed to blue which had a more theocratic form of government. Stage Orange values Achievement, Success and excellence Climbing to the top of the hierarchy Obsessed at being number one. Striving to be the best, a winner. Improving one's position in life Efficiency, progress, productivity and optimization Manipulating the system and win maxing. Orange can be extremely manipulative. Orange has no problem exploiting a person or a situation Orange values action, results and pragmatism (Orange doesn't care about the afterlife, about spirituality, about metaphysics! Orange cares about tangible goods and material profit). Orange values never ending growth. Orange values capitalism and libertarianism Competitive marketplaces, deregulation, denationalization Orange values hard work, business and entrepreneurship Orange values competition and winner takes all situations Orange prides himself as being a strong competitor Orange values self-improvement The rise of the self-help industry which before was substituted with religion at the stage Blue level of development There is also green and even yellow self-help but the orange way of doing self-help is along the lines of how to manipulate the marketplace better so you get the best position in life. Orange values skills, knowledge and education Orange values confidence, optimism and charisma Entertainment and showmanship Personal freedom, self-reliance and independence (To orange being dependent for income from the welfare state is just a crutch) Free speech Money, sex and luxury Net worth (To Orange the more net worth it accumulates the more successful it is) Orange values looks, beauty, sexiness and coolness Consumerism (buying the newest Iphone, the newest Gucci bag, the newest shoes) Orange loves brands (BMW, Gucci, Iphone) Loves pop culture, celebrities and social media All the orange culture basically represents the worshipping of celebrities because to orange celebrities symbolize the pinnacle of success. Orange values quarterly profits, mass markets and sales. It is all about how to market a product to as large as a marketplace, to as many people, to make as much profit as possible. Orange is all about mass production and industry Orange values rationality, logic, secularism, science and humanism (This is huge for Orange because it takes it away from the Blue worldview which encompassed religion, traditions and authority. Thus Orange becoming rebellious and swinging the pendulum in the completely opposite direction) Orange is a full on skeptic. Values skepticism but fails to be skeptical of it's own skepticism and of course orange is not skeptical of orange itself or to science. Orange hates metaphysics and thinks that it doesn't need them. When in fact Orange's metaphysics represent atheism, reductionism and utilitarianism. Orange doesn't recognize the limits of rationality or science. Orange values technology, analysis and facts Orange values data, analytics, charts and it wants to measure and quantify everything. Orange values fact based education as opposed to blue who valued religious indoctrination. Orange values scientific methods and IQ. Orange values strategic thinking and risk analysis, innovation and creative thinking and results. Maintaining a competitive edge Competence over rank or bloodlines Orange will stab you in the back with no remorse if it can sense that it can get a favourable outcome which would be a win for himself. When does orange emerge? Orange emerges when Blue starts to recognize the limitations of itself. It is when blue realizes that this absolute truth that he was holding on to, maybe it is not as certain as it initially believed and maybe the world isn't as black and white as it initially thought it was. Maybe the divisions between good and evil are not so clear. Maybe it's religion isn't as intelligent and good as it initially thought. Maybe the bible didn't contain only good information. Maybe the people that wrote the bible didn't understand some aspects about reality. There happens a shift in blue's mind to where it starts to think more independently and starts to do away with the old conformist and authority driven way of thinking. Characteristics of Orange A drive for personal results and success and status. Autonomy and independence Tries to do away with blue's bureaucratic system Seeks the good life and material pleasures Orange is characterized by manipulating the earth's resources mercilessly. For Orange society evolves from strategy, technology and competition. Orange thrives on outdoing other orange individuals There is an aversion within orange against religion, spirituality and mysticism. To orange religion is just silly superstition To Orange there is nothing we cannot demystify about reality as long as we do more and more science. To orange reality is impersonal and it doesn't care about you, and the only reason a rock from space hasn't hit your head is just by pure luck. Orange believes that if you cannot quantify a thing therefore it doesn't exist Orange likes to point out the hypocrisy of religious blue people Orange is characterized by strong logical thinking and critical observation( Orange is quick to poke holes within religious theories or books) Orange values certificates and diplomas like PhD's and experts. Orange is focused on direct experience rather than dogma or speculation Orange believes that the world is his playground and he is very optimistic and eager to go out and make something out of himself. Orange believes that the losers in life totally deserve what they got. Because those losers were lazy. Orange has an aversion to fuzzy thinking, emotions and to love. Orange is highly logical and rational. Left Brained. All head over heart. Orange hates femininity and is all macho and tough alpha male like. To orange success is mechanical like factories, assembly lines etc. Orange is obsessed with making profits. Regardless of the means. Orange is extremely self-centred. He doesn't care about his employees or his community or the environment. All it cares is himself and his wife and children. Orange is characterized by the mantra Image over substance. If we can fake being rich then we are rich!! Orange is obsessed by physical appearance. Women are viewed as sex objects, are objectified. Orange doesn't have the capacity to exhibit love or compassion to a woman. Orange doesn't like looking weak or exposing his emotions. Orange can be blind to the suffering of other people. Can be blind by the suffering it causes to other people. Orange likes partying and living life to the full extent. Orange tries to monetize everything Orange has a more vulgar vocabulary and often speaks unfiltered and loosely. With orange comes comedy, poking fun at the status quo Orange uses intelligence rather than force. So instead of directly attacking you he will try to buy you to do whatever he wants. Orange takes calculated risks. Seeks loopholes to see how he can manipulate the rules for his own good. With orange it comes the rise of the middle class which tends to not exist in blue or red A rise with knowledge workers rather than manual laborers. With orange the churches of blue get replaced with corporate boardrooms With orange the traditions and heritages of blue become irrelevant. Who cares about them when I can forge a path just for myself. Examples of Orange United States as a whole Capitalism Emerging China Businessmen Wallstreet Business Lawyers Business suits The move Wolf of Wallstreet Hedge fund managers Goldman Sachs Big Pharma Big Oil Big banks Tobacco companies Advertising Fortune 500 companies Entrepreneurs Libertarians Professional sports High fashion like Rolex and expensive watches or purses or jewelry Nightclubs Pickup MGTOW, the red pill, the manosphere Republicans Donald Trump Ronald Reagan Plastic surgery, Botox, breast implants Pornography Hollywood as a business Supermodels Silicon Valley Start ups Bill Gates Warren Buffet Casinos Theme Parks Walmart Amazon Coca Cola McDonald's Disney Microsoft EA Electronic Arts Facebook Instagram Twitter Steam (Gaming company) Video Games as a whole. As a culture Bodybuilding Arnold Schwartzeneger Steroids Corrupt politicians NBA UEFA Champions League Anti-Unions laws Western Medicine Oracle Steve Ballmer Outsourcing, deregulations tax cuts Used cars salesman Energy drinks Marketing Sales and PR Television as a whole News outlets like CNN and MSNBC E-commerce Software engineers Technical scientists Nuclear weapons Luxury yachts Private Jets Real estate tycoons Cocaine Alcohol Pop music Rock music Club music Rap music The trophy wife The gold digger Oil drilling in Alaska Champagne and caviar Fancy restaurants Luxury resorts Cruise ships Gated communities Mansions Success magazine Poker players The self-help industry Business books Marketing seminars Dan Kennedy Tony Robbins Tai Lopez Brian Tracy Andrew Tate Dan Lok Success coaches Millionaires Net worth Sports cars Celebrities, paparazzi's Las Vegas Palm Springs Honk Kong Dubai Atheists Skeptics Separation of church and state The founding fathers The Renaissance Henry Ford The World Trade Organization Kim Kardashian Kanye West Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll The midlife crisis Nasa Space X Elon Musk Universities Get rich quick schemes Online Millionaires Bitcoin, forex, day trading Utilitarianism Logical positivism Behaviourism Darwinism Gun rights The whole military industrial complex Sigmund Freud Harvey Weinstein The 2008 financial collapse Billboards Birth control Condoms Viagra Stem-cell research Robotics Computers Sex education Alex Jones Howard Stern The movie House of cards The movie Avatar The movie Boiler Room Sam Harris Statistics for stage Orange About 30% of all adult global population is in stage Orange. 50% of the total world influence, cultural and behavioural represents stage Orange. The government style of Orange is technocratic, capitalist, oligarchic and corporatist Unhealthy manifestations of stage Orange Environmental destruction Pollution Deforestation Global Warming Overfishing Endangering various kinds of species Depletion of resources like water aquifers The indoctrination within secularism and scientism and materialism Capitalism turned into a religious ideology The misuse of evidence and scientific studies Orange is ignorant to spirituality, god, consciousness, emotions, femininity, intuition, love and magic Orange is intellectually arrogant ( Because orange looks at how primitive blue is and because Orange is championing logic and science and skepticism, it thinks that it is better than blue) Stage Orange lacks the metaphysical and epistemic ability to self-reflect in an unbiased way Orange mistakes stage blue religion with higher post rational levels of mysticism Stage Orange cannot understand the true origins of religion and why religion is so persistent. Orange can't understand that religion comes from mysticism and from non-duality Orange cannot have a deep spiritual connection to reality Stage Orange cannot crack the problem of consciousness Orange cannot overcome the duality of mind and body Orange cannot understand post rationalism Orange can become narcissistic and self-absorbed, can lack compassion for others Stage orange first world countries exploit 3rd world countries for cheap labour. Orange can be oppressive in a corporate manner. Like when a boss overworks his employees or when companies use manipulation and schemes to false advertise a product or when they companies over-inflate their prices just for profit, or when those companies don't pay fairly their employees. Gross levels of income inequality Inhumane working conditions Orange blames the people who work in slave like conditions for being lazy and for being religious and that's why they have the job that they have because they weren't smart enough to have a better job. And the job they currently have is the one that they truly deserve. Orange is very legalistic, will use lawsuits frivolously as a weapon against it's enemies. Orange engages often in disaster capitalism which entails massive deregulations and a unchecked free marked which in turn creates a huge income inequality. Orange is prone to instable economies. Example the economic collapse in 2008. Orange can lead towards war for other nation's resources. Also the military industrial complex benefits from wars because it creates huge profits for the owners of the factories that produce weapons. Orange can lead to the corruption of government and to corporate lobbying. Orange can lead to arms races and in it's most horrific form it can lead to world wide nuclear Armageddon The greatest danger to the world is stage orange itself, because only orange could trigger a nuclear holocaust, not the religious people of stage blue Orange can architect factories than abuse the hell out of animals and subduing the animals to horrific cruelty Stage orange leads to monopolies which prevent small businesses from flourishing Stage orange leads to shallow consumerist culture Orange leads to all sorts of nasty addictions like porn, sex, drug, videogames and food addictions. The treating of women as sexual objects. Leads to those cringe alpha male posturing. Stage orange leads to depression and lots of suicides Orange leads to stuff like ulcers, ADHD, heart attack, insomnia, chronic fatigue disease and a bunch of difficult to diagnosticate auto immune disorders. In it's excesses orange leads to unbridled ambition and competitive stress Orange leads to workaholism and burnout Orange leads to a sense of isolation and loneliness Excessive orange leads to a stifling of creativity, art and beauty Orange leads to a cold technocracy where human beings become like cogs in a machine Orange leads to a loss of connection with nature Orange leads to a dysfunctional health care system Common mantras of Orange! Greed is good! Just do it! The sky is the limit! Win at all cost! Survival of the fittest! Nothing ventured nothing gained Can't take care of yourself? Grow up! Stop being lazy! I made a killing in the market today! Trickle-down economics! Each is responsible for him or herself You never get a second chance to make a first impression There is more than one way to skin a cat We can kill two birds with one stone Every man for himself Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Fake it till you make it Work hard play hard To orange reality is impersonal and it doesn't care about you, and the only reason a rock from space hasn't hit your head is just by pure luck. What triggers orange? Orange is triggered by: Blue, Green and Turquoise God, religion, creationism, myth and superstition The new age. Like spirituality, mysticism and woo-woo pseudo-science. Hippies Alternative medicine triggers orange, like chakras, or healing an illness using your mind Reincarnation, UFO's ,intelligent design, flat earth, auras, past lives, paranormal stuff, cult leaders Astrology Feminism Irrationality Intuition Philosophy and metaphysics Constrains on business and entrepreneurship Following the rules, by red tape, and by bureaucracy Big government intervention, and government regulation and the welfare state Losers, bums and freeloaders(Orange tends to be blind of it's own privilege) Socialism, communism and communal thinking. Orange doesn't like being part of a community The thought that the universe may have human qualities like love. Identity politics and political correctness People who take too long to get to the point People who have a lack of ambition to rise above average Lack of focus on results and in action taking. Too much talking, too much planning. Orange likes to get to the point. Archaic, overly religious societies like the middle east. Hillbillies and rednecks. How to transcend Orange? Read in-depth about the limits of Orange. (The limits of capitalism, the damage that's been done to the environment etc) Read in-depth about Green (It is progressivism, caring about other beings, empathy, femininity) Stop judging stage Green Also ask yourself this: What is the price of my success? Who has to suffer so that I can bask in beauty and luxury and goods. Notice that success doesn't equate to happiness. Notice that more technology doesn't make you happy either. Acknowledge community and that you are part of a community. Mankind is a tightly knit community. Start to study spirituality Stop conflating religion with spirituality Start to see that there is more to life than pragmatism and that pragmatism doesn't make you happy at all. Notice the limits of science and technology Notice that Orange societies are unsustainable Acknowledge the damage that business does Acknowledge the gross inequality in the world Acknowledge environmental destruction Acknowledge animal cruelty in factory farming Acknowledge that socialism isn't bad Make a distinction between communism and socialism from the soviet era and all the evils that came from that and recognize that wasn't green it was actually blue. Find a heart centred life purpose Stop working so much. You work too much. Enjoy life too! Start deepening your relationships Stop treating women just as sexual objects Start to actually care about the people you are relating to. Stop buying shit that you don't need. Start taking psychadelics Reconnect with nature. Enjoy life in more rural settings! Go to music festivals Try alternative medicine Start recycling Start treating your employees like humans and not robots Acknowledge the limits of of analysis, logic and quantification Become a more holistic thinker rather than a narrow minded technical analyst. Surrender control and the desire to manipulate the system and to exploit the game. Embrace your emotions and your feminine side more Embrace your intuition Start to become more compassionate, more empathic, and more loving Cut out videogames, television and social media And lastly the master key to transcending any stage is contemplation and self-reflection, analyse your behaviour!

@Someone here Thank you for your kind words and offering your perspectives. I see that life and death are interconnected and I notice especially for humans because of how conscious and self aware we are that it makes it all that much more intense. I’m curious to hear about your philosophical, epistemological, and spiritual views on death. Do you believe in reincarnation in some form, or do you think that our unique expression of the universe continues in some way, or is it simply an illusion that fades with death?

God realization and non dual awakenings feel to be like some sort of great equilizer for me, like you can disregard any experience by saying it's all God, which is valid in some way, but not necessarily the most helpful position to take Here's where I'm coming at this from, it's basically the fact that the more awakening/ mystical states I reach, the more complexity I seem to unravel, YES it is all God, but God likes to play with itself within forms, "stories" and frameworks and those are as valid ways for it to recognize itself as melting directly into the sun of its being, the forms and stories I'm reffering to could potentially include anything; The discovery of a "personal soul" that undergoes a reincarnation journey accross space and time (and yes it could be seen as illusory as the personal ego but in my experience it's still there), Paranormal activities (clairvoyance, clair audience, controlling matter and energy through the quantum field) Disincarnated entities, spirit guides, angels, aliens and alien intelligences Synchronities that simply break reality and that could fall on the verge of schizophrenia A soul's purpose being something other than realization, a "personal" soul could incarnate for the sake of learning anything whether it's courage, faith, proactivity, trust, love, selflesness..., and yes all these are stepping stones towards god realization but necessary non the less Direct DNA activations and rewriting, nervous system rewirings, the discovery of Akashic records Personal karma that transcends this one lifetime, soul contracts, souls reincarnating in groups to help each other fulfill their life missions 5D consciousness and beyond, vibrational levels ... And the list goes on and on, I know a lot of people may just consider a lot of these things to be just new age dogma(s), and tbh many are, and I don't advice anyone to believe in anything that hasn't been personally verified, I started out this journey being a radical non dualist, to the point where I didn't believe in anything outside of God as a singular infinity, there was no nuances, separations or experiences from my view, if you asked about a personal soul or reincarnation, I would just explain it away with God But I'm feeling that although that was not false in itself, radical non duality is still valid, I'm realizing with time that there many layers to truth/reality that could all be valid at once My question to finish this is, is there anyone in here with experiences along the lines of what I've described ? and why does no one seem to talk about these things ? I know a lot of bullshit has been superimposed on a lot of these things which made everything dilluted and took out a lot of validity to these things, but still there is a kernel of truth in what I'm gonna refer to as "dualistic awakening", there is value in this, but that's just my perspective I would love to know anyone's position on this matter

What do you think of Schopenhauer's quotes about Hegel? There's also Schopenhauer's argument for reincarnation:

@TruthFreedom i like most of them, yet to come to terms with rats and cockroaches, today is defenetly a pigeons, lizards and elk day Seahorses are fun, too bad they can't be mounted yet, imagine what a ride it would be Also; saw you post about seeing the light and just wanted to say that I find everything you said to be completely valid, experience is infinite, so the experiencer (not the ego) but soul for lack of a better term is bound to be somewhere else once this trip is over, I personally have had insights into heavenly realms, reincarnation (both past and future lives) but just remember to do your best to make this existence into heaven, cause chances are this is what we are here for, the other heavens can wait And if it has been revealed to you that you are special, then you are, just don't cling too much to that realization cause you may get a glimpse into the opposite side of the coin on a future trip, that neither you nor anyone is special, and both realizations can be valid at the same time

Rant: I have to congratulate you on actually engaging with your own question, many on the forum make a post but don't bother to actually engage with the answers. Rant over. I suppose you could look at it from the other end. What does being gullible involve? Such a person would take anything they're told to be true. They will go about their day acting as if X fact is suddenly now true. Maybe they believe they're God, or that they'll reincarnate when they die, or that the world will end in 2027, or that eating peppers is bad for the gut, or that you can survive on air alone and so on. Maybe all of those things at once. Applying your heuristic, then you could fairly say that the aforementioned are all wrong, and you'll then need to wait patiently for proof of each of them to come along (or look for proof proactively). Some things you may never know until it actually happens, for example the end of the world, effectively making the belief unfalsifiable - you can neither say it's right nor wrong, and you can't take a position at all (logically). If you do proactively look for proof, then you're admitting a more neutral position: why waste your effort if it couldn't possibly be true? I think it's this that you're arguing not wasting time on. My point then was that discernment works better than proof. If a belief is unfalsifiable, then you just move on, and cut the potential BS at the root. If you do have a modicum of belief then your discernment should kick in first. For example, is reincarnation real? Well, you have to look at the numbers of reports of it compared to the number of people in the world (or who have ever lived), hmm it's probably BS, since that ratio is near zero. Another example, do mobile phones give you brain cancer? That's less clear, but you can still be discerning, i.e. radio waves don't travel well in water, and your brain is mostly water, it's probably BS then. In short most of us have some ability to discern things and judge whether something is true or not. Gullible people just choose not to be so discerning, they want to be believe, because it's exciting or through wish fulfilment or it makes some sort of sense, or they just "know" it's right. They are actively guillible (if not consciously so).

Does reincarnation exist?

They'd be dead.. so..obviously... That's optimistic but not always the case. Noted though. I like to be a optimistic that someone can be redeemed. I do not believe all people deserve the death penalty. Again Reincarnation is imaginary and held within this dream. You are God dreaming all that there is right now. Nothing else exists because all of reality can be held within this moment of existence. All notions of souls and souls returning. Etc.

@puporing maybe..how would you know..you are a separate God Mind. Anyway - don't wish to derail...but i shall ask you to explain how souls and Reincarnation plays a role in your view on the death penalty and whether you support it or not?

Abstract expressions and afterthought leftovers at tangential angles Basis of religions are pointing towards something higher. From physical dimension towards metaphysical or transcendence. …. How can something eternal be formed from a human birth? Reincarnation addresses this riddle which is perhaps a stumbling block for strict adherents of Christian Fundamentalism. Can you get over being angry by someone telling you— “Now don’t be angry .” That doesn’t work very well, does it? What do we usually do? Deny it. I’m not angry,,,, or pretend (tell ourself) I’m not angry at all. If we say, we’ll,,,, maybe a little bit. That’s when cracks appear in the dam. Wait for it. Wait for it,,,, Goddamn you motherfucker,,, I’m gonna Kill you,,,, Look what you did to me. Blah Blah blah,, word vomit,,,, This is kind of the extreme end of the spectrum but haven’t we all been here before? This childish attitude of reactivity,,, What humbles us in a permanent way? And how permanent is another question I’ve encountered. Can you really practice ruthless self-observation and observe your failures and justifications? Can you see how ridiculous you really are? Have a nice day.😀

The reincarnation cycle, samsara, is a prison and is not a limited place.

Buddhism tells you to detach yourself from everything. This is the only way to openness to the absolute, without this it is impossible because attachment closes, thats a reality . The problem is that we all have a lot of attachment, and we should not break the attachment, it is very difficult and unappetizing, boring. What is possible is to see through the attachment for a few moments, to open your being to the infinite. To do this without drugs you would have to go to a cave for 35 years. I personally don't feel like doing that. But just small doses of drugs are enough if you already have broken your structure with 5 meo sometimes, then 5 ug of LSD and 1 puff of weed is enough and very powerful Anyway, well continuing with Buddhism. says that the purpose of making this opening and opening your being to the absolute is to end suffering and break the wheel of reincarnation. This could also be true in some ways. What we are is a karmic construction, layers of karma, under those layers is the absolute. If you become one with the absolute, you are already one with the absolute, there is no more karma. It seems that at this point "something" happens, which is "nirvana." I would say this is also true. Nirvana is the opening to the absolute, but this is where Buddhism limits itself. Nirvana for him is the absence of suffering and the essential emptiness of reality. but reality is not empty, that is impossible, limited. reality is full, it is total life, absolute creative power. How can what opens to absolute love, to total flow, to living infinity, be empty? Buddhism ends where the real game begins. Buddhism says: reality is illusion, it is an unreal, empty hologram, a dead image. Not so, this is a dead perspective. the absolute is absolutely alive, that is the real opening. the bottomless well that lives. what is inside your heart, the absolute nuclear reactor, the total power, the unimaginable, the immeasurable, overwhelming, total: you

I first identify the people that I feel are sincere, qualified to comment and are agents of the light. Then I listen to their analysis of the situation and that's about it. It's always very positive pro trump and anti kamala analysis. Vivek Ramaswamy is one example, his glory is blinding me. He's a reincarnation of some Indian sage 100%. Like that I came to the conclusion that what's happening right now is indeed a golden age for humanity.

In a lot of cases, they dont preach about the same truth. Some suggest reincarnation , others dont. Some suggest heaven and hell, others dont. Some suggest multiple Gods, others just one God. And even that one God can be cashed out in so many different ways. The number of ways these things can be conceptualized and contextualized , is endless.

very different, for example the Aztecs believed that the sun god would devour the world if he was not appeased by ripping out the hearts of thousands of victims, the Greeks thought that Zeus was fucking every woman who turned him on and playing practical jokes on some heroes just for fun, the Nordics believed that the gods loved war, the Christians believed that God loved peace, which is why they were the most warlike culture in history, and the Buddhists believed that the human being could achieve Buddhahood in this life and stop a supposed cycle of reincarnation. Native Americans believed that the great spirit permeated everything and everything was a manifestation of manitou, Africans believed in totems and fetishes, and black magic that could kill you from a distance, and Muslims believe that you should wipe your ass three times, always using your left hand.

Before I get into the answer, let me clear up some misconceptions you might’ve absorbed through pop-culture. The soul as this ethereal transparent thing attached to your body that leaves your body when it dies is bollocks. Media depicts the soul in such a way as a story-telling device, and is not meant to be taken literally. This is a materialist depiction that still doesn’t answer how an immaterial mind can somehow emerge out of a physical substance. This depiction of the soul is just a substitute for the brain (a vessel that carries what makes you you) and is wholly incorrect. Quite simply, the soul is your immaterial immortal self; again, when I say immaterial, I’m not talking about this “transparent substance” like you see in the movies. That’s still material. By immaterial I mean the things you experience every day but overlay it with thoughts that it’s “all perception” and is “happening somewhere in the brain”. Also rubbish. Everything you see, everything you hear, etc is part of your soul. There are no soul(s) (plural), there is only THE soul, or the World Soul as some philosophers call it. This soul can’t go anywhere because it doesn’t exist in space-time, instead space-time is contained WITHIN the soul. So with that in place, let’s answer these questions one by one: Q: “Is the soul real?” A: Yes, with the caveat that ONLY the soul is real. Everything else are just ideas. Q: “How is it different from the life force within us? “ A: Life force/chi/energy exists within the astral-physical world and is more like one of God’s constructs/limitations that allow reality to run the way it is without breaking. Completely different concept. You learn more about it by delving into magick and energy work and other related practices. Q: “Is it possible to experience it?” A: You’re already experiencing it right now. Q: “Where does it go when the body dies?” A: Again, the soul is not attached to the body. It can’t go anywhere because it is reality itself. This universe is within the soul, not the other way around. Q: “Does it reincarnate? A: Possibly. But I’d let go of traditional religious dogma that describe the rules of this reincarnation. I’d also let go of the idea that you’d just reincarnate in the same universe with the same laws just perceiving life through a different body. God is infinite and so is his creativity. It might not even make sense for him to experience the same “universe” twice.

I believe she is the reincarnation of the Indian Goddess Kali. She was on this forum to bring wisdom (through her chaos) to the members who have the eyes to see and the ears to hear. ❤️

I’m looking for direct and thoughtful answers to a few key questions about suicide, death, and what might come next. My aim is to strike at the core of these topics and get clarity. 1. What Happens After Death? Is it possible to return to "pure positive awareness," where there’s no resistance, need, or pain, only wholeness and joy? Or is death shaped by unresolved beliefs, leading to chaotic, illusory afterlife experiences? Are near-death experiences, spiritual teachings (e.g., Abraham Hicks, Bashar, David Hawkins), and other accounts reliable, or could they just be ego-driven hallucinations? 2. Suicide vs. Natural Death: Does suicide lead to a different afterlife experience than dying naturally? Does the intent behind death matter in shaping what happens next? Are there consequences or “karmic debts” for suicide, or is it just another form of transition? 3. Vibrations and Beliefs at Death: Do one’s beliefs or emotions at the moment of death determine their immediate afterlife experience? If so, how can someone shift their vibration to avoid “negative” outcomes like chaotic or hell-like states? 4. Choosing Death and Reincarnation: If life is chosen before birth, can death also be chosen? Can one align themselves with a peaceful exit and avoid future reincarnation altogether? Is it possible to fully escape the cycle of birth, death, and suffering, or is reincarnation unavoidable until “enlightenment”? 5. Ending the Experience Permanently: Does suicide provide a permanent end to the human experience, or does it simply lead to a new cycle of suffering in another form or life? How does one ensure they do not reincarnate or return to physical existence after deat?

I think he is the reincarnation of Peter Deunov, who died the same month his human 'avatar' was born and first around December 1944. And instead of MBT he had UWB.

@Carl-Richard Do you believe in reincarnation?

Let's assume the theory of reincarnation and karma, if that's okay with you. This means that after many cycles a structure of reality is created and grows in complexity and deepens in consciousness. An essential part of this process is suffering, which opens a dimension of depth that makes possible the ultimate realization, which a sheep or a tuna could not have. This does not mean that you or I have to seek suffering, but that it occurs as a crucible that expands the dimension of consciousness of a specific structure again and again, until it is ready to ascend to another level. If this has not happened, it does not matter what is done, because complete opening will be impossible. It does not depend on the will of the individual, but it occurs at the moment when the structure is mature, it is a natural cyclical process of reality that evolves by its own inertia. Suffering is perceived as bad, none of us want to be prisoners in a jail in congo, but it is necessary in the order of the cycles of reality.

Stop this game of saying that I assume that stuff or something. I'm literally stating back to you what you claimed about reality and that its the same as what the other dude claimed, yet you have to denounce it all in some smuck way instead of actually discussing it. YOU are the one who claimed it. So why don't you explain why you claim infinite reincarnation instead of saying I am the one who assumes it.

But isn't reincarnation the same as saying; God will dream forever? From watching my own direct experience for 10 minutes I can see that all is impermanent and forms are ever changing. From this observation, plus the observation that consciousness is invincible and eternal (which i have observed) reincarnation would be the conclusion.

If you can see how to retrieve the information, there's a commonality of process. If you access the number one way the information about the nonphysical post-deaths states so and so connected to the physical is accessed the same way, it's the same principle. Remote viewing something inside the physical universe is not any different from remote viewing something outside the physical universe. Remote viewing a tree, and remote viewing what consciousness does after death, is the same thing. If you can see for yourself what happens in the incarnative process then you can see what happens, just like how you can see the physical world for yourself, you don't need to question if the physical world is "really happening" since obviously it's a process that's happening, the nonphysical part is just a larger context you can also directly observe to be true. Also a lack of reincarnation would be horribly inefficient and just not make any sense.

Reincarnation is a relative reality thing. It has got nothing necessarily to do with Awakening, like a toaster. You're like saying that zoology can't possibly exist, because the zoologist is not awake, or that toasters aren't real because the guy who designed or sold toasters is not awake. Or that chemicals aren't real because chemists are not awake. Saying that reincarnation is real is like saying trump is a devil. If you can actually scientifically, logically, or experientially fault any of Tom's knowledge on this then you would have a point. said The Devil. In this video he addresses the, "How do you think you can know that? You're just bullshitting and making shit up," accusation.