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something obviously disturbing about sadhguru is that according to him all indian traditions, without exception, have a real and legitimate basis. ayurvedic medicine, funeral rites, theories about reincarnation, etc. but only indian traditions. that is, bleeding the sick with leeches or going on a pilgrimage to mecca no, but doing certain indian rites according to him makes it easier for your relative to move on to a phase of existence after death, better, whatever, but only indian ones, no sacrificing children by ripping out their hearts to make it rain, no, eating mercury yes, bury alive one year yes, go to the paradise with the Virgins no. Baptism to avoid the hell no, but yoga to go to nirvana yes. Shit, they are better than the others! What about the untouchables? Could they go to nirvana? Edit: he's against the castes and believe in the unity of india as a nation independent of religion. His project seems more political than mystic. It's legit, it's not intently bad trying to improve a nation . He's very difficult to understand because he's theoretically a mystic but over all a politician. Both could be together, why not?

Sure it works, any yoga works. I mean if when he's talking about mashamadi, reincarnation, cosmos, he's liying. Just that. Could you see the point? Brain wash. Putting a invented cosmos in your mind that now you accept as real and it is a mockery. Just the possibility

A lot of mystics much more wise than us talk about reincarnation, that this life is a path to equalize your energies, your mind and your heart to ascend to other dimension, that there is a serious work to do here. Maybe they are right, maybe no, but seems that there are something real in that line of though

@LordFall Imagine there was one man that existed he sat down and meditated and he saw himself as a source of energy that just exists. He explores this source of energy sees it can take forms like imagination. Then the man wants to find the where he was as the only man on earth that existed because that was his first, but then realizes that the state he was in as the only man that existed was just one of these infinite possibilities of being and its actually just an energy source that has always existed and is everything. What does reincarnation mean in that scenario? Literally nothing.

Reincarnation is irrelevant when you understand God.

Yeah honestly I think this whole section of the human lore is worth consideration and Leo should make a huge video on it if he has interest. Project Stargate involved a lot of metaphysical investigations like remote viewing and yeah I remember reading something about reincarnation in there. A lot of these accounts are starting to gain credibility and are publicly broadcasted on platforms like Shawn Ryan's My current understanding is that literally the CIA came to the conclusion that physical reality is a meme and we're consciousness and they gave up on the experiments. Perhaps that's not true at all though and hilariously enough they are doing their own radical experiments of consciousness. I don't know what to think about this so I generally don't think about it and worry about material concerns like making money and my dating life but it is a big plot hole.

Declassified pentagon files have suggested the possibility that reincarnation is real based on data derived from its research projects. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a63149552/pentagon-psychic-spies/ https://www.uniladtech.com/news/pentagon-study-reincarnation-could-be-real-298673-20241210 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14166719/Secret-Pentagon-study-reincarnation-consciousness-Monroe-Institute-Gateway.html

It was a Neil Degrasse Tyson TV show where he said we share the DNA of flowers, plants, ants, insects, trees and such in our own DNA, that is physical proof that something is going on, we were something before we were this human being we are now, so reincarnation as they state it in Hinduism and yoga makes logical sense to me, which means the law of Karma, Cause and Effect, Residual results of Actions taken affect our daily lives, and Free Will is quite correct conceptually. the question is how did they know this a few thousand years ago? They knew it because they knew the mechanics of Life, how it started and how it will end, the complete story because we are micro Universes, everything is connected, we are not separate from it, on Body/Mind level we are, that is the beauty of this creation, of being Human, we have Individuality and Oneness/Completeness with Everything at the sametime, no other life has this ability to Experience and/or Choice to invoke within themselves!

@Breakingthewall @Someone here I think the key here shouldn't be whether reeincarnation exists or not but whether in what ways our life is a replication of someone else's acts Because clearly, in a way, reality is reincarnating. Yesterday more than 300.000 babies were born. There is the proof, that Reality is recycling itself. Without new babies, without new life happening, even if reincarnation exist you would not have a body to reincarnate into. I see interesting in observing the following: When you are having sex with a woman what is that you are doing? In a way, You are doing an act based on a memory imprint on the system, on a certain volition, this imprint tells you, feel attraction towards that woman, and not towards a dog. So the process of creation comes with a certain software, so it can replicate itself. Because the creation wants to survive, so it makes you horny, so you can have sex and reality can keep replicating. So there is something clear: We don´t exactly know if you had past lifes or if you will have future lives, but is clear there are certain acts in reality that allow reality to keep replicating itself. So even if this is your last life for you, you are collaborating with the software that makes the replication possible. Whether it will be you or not, we don´t know it. But some parts of Reality will have to give life to those 300.000 babies bodies.

My 5 cents: No matter what solution/concept we discuss here re reincarnation - it's still a story. Some people apparently said some things about reality, and suddenly it's a thing. Green lamas are gonna rule the universe. I found an old scroll where Jesus talks about it, Sadhguru was there too they both agree and [enter random Name here] believes the same So why do we even assume there is a "constant thing" like reincarnation that defines reality? If reality is one thing, then it's constant change, isn't it? So maybe reincarnation was a thing once, no it is no more? Maybe it will come back like the 80s Maybe everyone lives out his/her own reality: You get reincarnated, I don't. Coin flip, nothing else. Why do we assume that there are fixed rules governing all of us the same? Yeah, humans are similar, we all breath, eat, sleep etc but we all also create our own subjective reality and if we are one thing, then we are different, right? So many people talk like they know sth. I say nobody knows anything. I say nobody knows shit.

I've shared the 5 Sheaths Theory before here on the Forum, I think it explains it well and detailed as to what reincarnates and such... What dissolves at physical death is the Earth Body and the Mind Body (Intellect, Discretion, Personal Memories and such), what goes on is the Energy Body, Etheric Body, Bliss Body (I am not sure what the Bliss Body is, is it a covering for the Atman/Soul, or is it that itself??) Karma is Stored in the Energy Body, so that goes along as reincarnation is happening... Some of what Your talking about is not Karma, its Duality at play which can cause Karma to be in place and being created moment to moment I guess? Karma is cause and affect, residual memory imprints from previous actions in 4 places as a Human Being, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy, action in these 4 areas are happening on a moment to moment basis, how Aware are You/WE of these actions all the time?? Probably its at a nil level, so therefore most ppl are living by accident, not on purpose or with Consciousness of What they are, and What it means to be Human...But the situation is set up to be perfect almost, Nature if left alone is almost Perfect, the way our planet revolves around the Sun for as long as it is and will be, its perfect, as it the rest of the Universe and Existence, but things are not so perfect on this planet in the Human World, cause we have Free Choice/Will to chose how to experience this perfect place and Universe, via Unconsciousness or Consciousness??

Reincarnation intuitively seems very possible, I feel that life is a path to learn, but that's true? Maybe all mystics had this kind of feeling and they accepted that reincarnation is a logical possibility. In other hand many said that they remember past lifes, but is that true? Maybe. I think it's a possibility quite possible

@Ishanga@Javfly33 @Hojo what exactly the thing that reincarnates? The body? The soul? The self? The Self? The awareness? The ego? All? Some? What??? Because as a matter of observable fact the body decays into dust and rot alright?.. Once your physical body dies it just dissolves into it's essential elements and just evaporates in nature.. Gets diffused into the soil etc. So that's that. What is it exactly that reincarnates then because obviously it's not the body? The self? There is no self "inside "the body lol !. The body is inside the" Self". There is no ghost inside the machine. What you really have is a machine inside the ghost lol. The self (ego) is a negative hole that appears as a consequence (byproduct) of entanglement of thoughts.. perceptions.. feelings etc. It's a misidentification really. It's a negative.. not an existing entity onto itself. So there is no self to reincarnate. IMO reincarnation is no different from Abrahamic religion's notions of hell and heaven.. Both have ZERO evidence!. As for karma as an evidence that supports reincarnation.. Well it's simply that for each up there is a down and for each action there is a reaction. You throw up a ball in the sky.. It falls down in the opposite direction taking the exact time that it took to reach the highest peak to fall from it into the ground. That's karma. The universe is already at perfect balance. There is no need for reincarnation to achieve balance as if balance could be lost to begin with. Balance is already the case. It's inconceivable that something unbalanced could even exist! And if you look at it from a pantheistic worldview.. You are already living inside every creature in this planet.. So at the moment that you are beheading a chicken you are the chicken that's being beheaded and the human who is beheading it simultaneously. Karma is instant.

Best way I can describe what I think reincarnation is with simulation theory. Pretend that you are a computer right now you have a hard drive you have a gpu you have ram you have a power supply and you have power.The power coming into the computer is God. You are so used to the on state that you forget that you even have seperate parts working in unison to create your experience. Death would be like you noticing all your separate parts working together to form your current experience as the power slowly leaves them one at a time and then you sit there in an off state and forget you were even running a simulation. Most people dont know there is something that is them but not them flowing through them the energy of God. The creator of their simulation.(coming from the plug in the wall) Seeing this is the first part of spirituality. Now God is farming simulations. The simulations can over time remeber their off states. They become aware enough to 'see' when they are off and they will remeber that they are a simulation faster when they are turned on. This is a signal to God (the power in you coming from an unknown source like a plug in the wall) that you are gaining consciousness. We as simulation have information from our own computers that is being uploaded to the internet and we are playing a video game together as the energy of God flowing through our computers. Moksha (I think) is like the simulation saying Hey! Im not the computer im the power coming from the plug in the wall! Im going to go there when I die and merge with the fucking energy of the universe, not just sit in my off state. Or its like the computer saying hey my avatar dosent exist on a personal computer it exists within the internet and when you die you live on the internet not a personal computer simulation and never turn off. Not knowing this is sitting as an off computer until someone uses your simulation again.

@Someone here Because I can't remember any previous lives or physical deaths, I try not to believe or disbelieve anything I learn about, especially matters such as this, reincarnation, but it sounds good! I think this process comes about via Karma at play, it has to be worked out or burned up and most times it takes more than 80 yrs to do so, since ppl are creating more Karma along the way, so as they say many lifetimes are needed to play it all out... In the end its all about Absolute, this Brahma getting to experience and express itself imho, otherwise why are we and all this creation here?? Sadhguru says to never ask why, when You do then as story has to be told to You and via that a belief or disbelief is born which leads us further away from Experientially knowing, someday we will find out for sure:)

Reincarnation has been part of eastern Dharmic religions ( Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism,Sikhism ) as well as Taoism, and also native european belief systems such as the Orphic Greeks, Celts, native German, Slav and Norse religions for milleniums. Reincarnation is also a belief in native north American tribes such as the Inuit, Navajo, Tlingit, Haida. Gitxsan, Dene Dháa . Also african tribes such as the Igbo, Nupe and Yoruba of Nigeria, Akamba of Kenya, Akan of Ghana, Baganda of Uganda. Also in some cultural groups in the native Australians. Even in the Abrahamic traditions, reincarnation as a belief exists among the Druze, Islamic shia sects (Alawites, Ahmadi religion of peace and light. ) , Jewish Kaballah, early Christian sects of Cathars, Bologmils ( which were persecuted to extinction by the Catholic church) and modern christian sects like 'The Christian Community , 'The Order of The Cross' , Kardecism. In western psychiatry and psychology as well, the likes of Dr. Brian Weiss, Dr. Michael Newton , Dr. Ian stevenson ,Dr. Jim Tucker and others has compiled a body of research work substantiating reincarnation and showing that it may have a basis in fact.

@Javfly33 @Ishanga @Breakingthewall In Buddhism they believe in reincarnation and karma. You keep reincarnating after death until you "pay" all your karma and then you stop and cease to exist completely. That state of cessation and nothingness is called "Nirvana ". It's basically a form of salvation and being free from the sufferings of life. (because according to Buddhism.. life is suffering). I was raised as a Hindu. Hinduism also have moksha . Which is when the self realises its The Self .when the drop realises its the entire ocean and dissolves into infinity . Its also in Hinduism called when atman (the human self ) awakens to the realization that its Brahman (the universal Self or the "all") What do you think of the Buddhist and Hindu narrative? And what is your own definition of Nirvana? Of course anyone is free to comment..maybe Leo or @Princess Arabia or @Davino or @Hojo or @Razard86etc . But I tagged these three members on top because I read them using these terms often and i want to get a full comprehensive idea of how this works . To me..life is not a video game ..with past lives and accumulated karma and shit like that . We just born ..live ..die ..and disappear as a finite human..and then you exist as formless consciousness forever. But then again why the hell shouldn't a limited form exist again ? Bottom line is consciousness is immortal .it can't die in its most basic absolute form .but the details remain a mystery. I guess we all gonna die and find out .or...?

Yes but how to go deep enough to understand what is that process that is happening and where it leads, what are the mechanics of the cosmos. There is possible to know such things, or are just fantasies? Reincarnation, etc. Some says that they remember past lifes and they know exactly why this life is happening and where this leads. Maybe it's true, maybe no. But could be true

@decentralized Get to the basics, come back to earth. Create a goal for yourself, join some free free education course or get some certifications if you can (you might even apply for some low-skill job to get some cash going), do some Physical exercise (even just cardio is great) and get some therapy if you can. Having a voice in your head telling you things, is NEVER a good thing. You have to feel like you are the one the one making the decisions. In the meanwhile i would suggest you toput aside the piritual imaginary and culture for now (Reincarnation, ego death, chakras etc). Stay away from energetic practices stuff like Kundalini and Kriya Yoga. If you do that kind stuf without a mentor it can ruin you. Don't fall into the trap of spiritualizing you problems. Very few issues are purely spiritual and most can be resolved by taking action in the world. I think you should just leave the habit of doing some do-nothing meditation like 30 min everyday and let go of everything that appears in your experience, if you get kriyas, let it do their things, accept and kidly let go off of every thoughts you find intrusive or negative. Simple Hatha Yoga can be can be good aswell. Focus on getting beck on track with life in general. Once you get the boat going you can dive deep in spirituality again.

Well if that's the case..then why make dozens of threads about cessation..mahasmadhi..non existence..ending the cycle of reincarnation etc ? If you feel happy just by existing then this is good. This a sign of enlightenment. But i don't believe you're "there "yet . I've followed your posts over the years ...you improved..but you still believe the true nature is nothingness and not both nothingness and everythingness ..which oddly enough you seem to contradict once again with this post. So what's the deal jav?

Ever since I was a kid I could lucid dream , but conversely I had dreams that were way more dissociative than the average dream. I would become a woman , or an old man and have a completely different set of memories and life in my dream. This scared me because this experience made me feel that my Self, is my identity and to lose this identity is to die permanently. No different than an eternal void. Reincarnation which comforts others as an afterlife was unacceptable to me. You are telling me if I die and come back as a bee and have the consciousness of a bee with no prior memories of this life that I have survived death? NO! I would have died, that bee is not me. Death haunts me, I don't want to lose this identity for it feels like losing myself in totality. Now if I die and I am a bee , but there is a continuity, i.e. the same sense of self and past memories, that I can accept. Nobody seems to get what I'm trying to say here. I understand there is an awareness that continues, I have experienced it first hand when I had vivid dreams that I am a middle aged woman with a family ( I am a male in my young 20's). I know there was still an awareness there, but it wasn't me. Yes I understand all identities are equally valid and real since reality is relative. This whoever doesn't solve the fear and attachment this current ego feels to it's current identity. Even referring to it as "this ego" feels weird because I am going into third person when all I'm referring to is myself. Yes yes I know what you will already say, but it is not comforting, because I am selfish and only care about the continued existence of this present identity I feel to be ME.

Science and Reincarnation...

That's correct. But you don't have access to the cheat codes . Otherwise go ahead and materialise for me a chicken biryani dish because I'm starving right now in college 😂. You see..you have denied yourself the access to the rules of reality deliberately to make life more fun and exciting or adventures. My comment was meant to shed light on this naive view of yours about reincarnation and mahasmadhi. As if you are literally a video game character in a video game world with a lifetime span and second trials .it's not like that bro .

You may not believe in reincarnation, but this current incarnation you are experiencing is a fact, period. No one comes here as carte blanche. In addition to the vehicle that is your body, which was built based on specific information, you also receive at the entrance an extremely subtle software of the ego-mind, which gradually activates and updates itself as you develop as a human being. This software contains a whole lot of engrams of memory traces stretching back to 4 generations. Traumas, dysfunctional behavior patterns, various tendencies, also positive ones. This is shown by the latest epigenetic research. Ergo, if you believe that you are here for the first time (or not), then know that the sum of the conditions into which you are put, visually resembles a very sophisticated cage - maze structure. No relativization of this fact will change anything here. Dream or not dream - it happens, period. Even if you manage to climb the walls of this maze for a moment or jump high enough to see it from a wider perspective - in the end you have to come back here and find the way out yourself. Once you discover this scary beauty of this multidimensional puzzle, this task of getting out of here may seem impossible. Remember that "it always seems impossible unitl it's done" - Nelson Mandela.

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